Lindaland
  Interpersonal Astrology
  Why is my relationship with my sister so volatile and toxic?

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
profile | register | preferences | faq

UBBFriend: Email This Page to Someone! next newest topic | next oldest topic
Author Topic:   Why is my relationship with my sister so volatile and toxic?
SilverFeather
Knowflake

Posts: 1711
From: Jupiter
Registered: Aug 2012

posted August 27, 2022 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SilverFeather     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It didn´t used to be this bad. When we were kids, we were actually very close and we used to love being around each other.

But somehow, The older we become, the more terrible the relationship gets. Every time I try to communicate with her, it´s almost as if I´m talking a different language. She has changed so much throughout the years, that at times I don´t feel like I know her anymore.
She has always been a very temperamental person, quick to anger and harsh words but it didn´t make me love her any less. I accepted that about her and as it goes, family is family.
But in recent years, it has become so toxic that I would stop talking to her all together for months. Any argument we have, however small, she blows it out of proportion and begins to hurl all sort of hurtful and terrible things to me. It gets to the point where I would feel like crying and I´m a 28 year-old grown woman. She never apologizes when wrong and whenever I speak up for myself, I become the monster. It´s always me, and she is always the victim.

I know respect is something you earn and not something you expect others to give to you but I´m still her older sister. There should be a bottom line. She´s so resentful and vindictive towards me and I cannot understand why. I haven´t done anything to warrant such attitude. I´ve supported her (financially when she was a student and emotionally during her academic struggles/break-ups), lend her my ear when she needed it and I would call and ask after her regularly when she wouldn´t even bother to send me a text.

I am at my wit´s end and honestly, I feel so emotionally exhausted with this whole situation. I´m so tired of this hostility and I wish things would go back to how we were once. I expressed this to her several times but it´s almost as if there´s a wall between us, nothing gets through. This is genuinely depressing me and I have no clue how to resolve this.

There´s a four year age gap between us and this is our synastry. I´m in blue, she is in red.

IP: Logged

PlutoWasHere
Knowflake

Posts: 627
From: The Nether World
Registered: Mar 2021

posted August 27, 2022 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SilverFeather, thank you for sharing your story and I’m sorry that your going through such a rough time right now. I can see that your sister has a challenging natal chart. Her Moon conjunct Mars indicates a fiery emotional nature and with her Moon in Aries ruled by Mars that’s emphasized even more. Her Moon could be in the critical first degree indicating this is something she still needs to master. Her Sun is square Pluto indicating that it’s easy for her to feel challenged and getting into power struggles with male or father figures in her life. It’s a combative and frustrating aspect. She has a lot of planets in her first house which makes it difficult for her to put herself in someone else’s shoes, she could be very self centered or just very focused on only her problems.

When I look at your synastry, I notice the conjunction between your Venus and her Pluto, this triggers her natal Sun square Pluto aspect. Harsh Venus and Pluto aspects (opposition, square and conjunction) are known as love and hate aspects. These type of relationships run deep and cause great transformations. However these transformations can be painful. Your Chiron conjunct her north node does indicate that your relationship has a theme of pain and healing. People need time to grow into their challenging aspects and it’s often only after their Saturn return (around your 28/29th birthday) when people are more mature and get some introspection. Looking at your chart I can see you recently had yours. That’s probably why you’re more triggered to look at what you find acceptable behavior and what’s not. Your sister still has a couple of years to go.

You and your sister clearly have a deep connection but she’s going through a difficult time that will help her grow through relationships (her north node in 7th house and transit Pluto conjunct her Venus/Neptune conjunction). Transit Saturn is also about to hit her Pisces stellium so she will likely encounter some challenging situations that will push her to become more mature and responsible. She might project her struggles unto you or she might come to you for support. The next few years are probably going to be tough but also will give her the opportunity to grow. My only advice is to keep your boundaries and buckle up for the ride that likely is still to come. She’s going through some serious growing pains and hopefully she’ll come out a more mature person in the end.

IP: Logged

SilverFeather
Knowflake

Posts: 1711
From: Jupiter
Registered: Aug 2012

posted August 27, 2022 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SilverFeather     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
SilverFeather, thank you for sharing your story and I’m sorry that your going through such a rough time right now. I can see that your sister has a challenging natal chart. Her Moon conjunct Mars indicates a fiery emotional nature and with her Moon in Aries ruled by Mars that’s emphasized even more. Her Moon could be in the critical first degree indicating this is something she still needs to master. Her Sun is square Pluto indicating that it’s easy for her to feel challenged and getting into power struggles with male or father figures in her life. It’s a combative and frustrating aspect.
She has a lot of planets in her first house which makes it difficult for her to put herself in someone else’s shoes, she could be very self centered or just very focused on only her problems.


Pluto, Thank you for taking the time to reply to me. I appreciate it very much.

Yes, it's been a very painful situation for me. We used to be very tight and when I see what we become, it makes me want to cry.

She has a very strong and headstrong personality, and she tends to forget that other people also have opinions and feelings of their own. She gets very angry whenever I oppose her or call her out for something she done or said. No matter how trivial it was, she always takes too it too personally and let her emotion get the better of her. She doesn't know how to hold her tongue or even listen. She is in constant defensive mode which makes communication impossible.

quote:
Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
When I look at your synastry, I notice the conjunction between your Venus and her Pluto, this triggers her natal Sun square Pluto aspect. Harsh Venus and Pluto aspects (opposition, square and conjunction) are known as love and hate aspects. These type of relationships run deep and cause great transformations. However these transformations can be painful. Your Chiron conjunct her north node does indicate that your relationship has a theme of pain and healing. People need time to grow into their challenging aspects and it’s often only after their Saturn return (around your 28/29th birthday) when people are more mature and get some introspection. Looking at your chart I can see you recently had yours. That’s probably why you’re more triggered to look at what you find acceptable behavior and what’s not. Your sister still has a couple of years to go.

It is true. Our relationship is constant source of pain and struggle for me. And we do hurt each other often with words, specially when we fight. Deep down, I do love her and this is why this is making me sad. I feel disrespected, belittled and unloved by her.

quote:
Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
You and your sister clearly have a deep connection but she’s going through a difficult time that will help her grow through relationships (her north node in 7th house and transit Pluto conjunct her Venus/Neptune conjunction). Transit Saturn is also about to hit her Pisces stellium so she will likely encounter some challenging situations that will push her to become more mature and responsible. She might project her struggles unto you or she might come to you for support. The next few years are probably going to be tough but also will give her the opportunity to grow. My only advice is to keep your boundaries and buckle up for the ride that likely is still to come. She’s going through some serious growing pains and hopefully she’ll come out a more mature person in the end.

I do hope she matures and changes for the better. Not for the sake of our relationship but for her own sake. Life will be a nightmare for her if she continues on being like this. Specially when she is planning on marrying soon. Learning to compromise and communicate in a calm and mature way is a must in order to sustain a committed relationship. She cannot rage at her partner or future children (she wants them) this way when things don't go her way.

IP: Logged

PlutoWasHere
Knowflake

Posts: 627
From: The Nether World
Registered: Mar 2021

posted August 29, 2022 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You’re welcome SilverFeather. I have a younger brother myself but unfortunately we’re no longer in contact because of his mental health issues and addictions. I tried everything I possibly could but nothing could get him on the right path again. It was through astrology that I finally found a way to let go and accept that each of us has their own lessons to learn in this lifetime. And no matter how badly we would like to do this for them, they have to learn on their own. It’s not easy though. As one big sister to another, I’m sending you a big hug.

IP: Logged

teasel
Knowflake

Posts: 22963
From:
Registered: Apr 2009

posted August 29, 2022 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've had a similar issue with my sister, and we no longer speak. I once showed our composite to a friend who used to be here at LL, and she told me I shouldn't have been surprised at the outcome. I was, because no matter what, we'd always been there for each other. But there were times when it felt like she'd always resented me.

I'm sorry you're dealing with this, too. Our relationship fell apart after our Saturn returns, and I'm the older sister, too.

IP: Logged

Stawr
Moderator

Posts: 7595
From: N. America
Registered: Nov 2010

posted August 29, 2022 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My sister and I also have Venus(her) conjunct Pluto(me) in Scorpio.

We kind of had the opposite thing going where we didn't get a long growing up, but had a break through when she moved out and we've been like best friends ever since.

Though when we were in our 20's we got into it real bad and didn't talk for 2 months.

Good vibes to the both of you.

IP: Logged

Randall
Webmaster

Posts: 162602
From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)!
Registered: Apr 2009

posted September 14, 2022 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

IP: Logged

Randall
Webmaster

Posts: 162602
From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)!
Registered: Apr 2009

posted September 29, 2022 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

IP: Logged

All times are Eastern Standard Time

next newest topic | next oldest topic

Administrative Options: Close Topic | Archive/Move | Delete Topic
Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Hop to:

Contact Us | Linda-Goodman.com

Copyright 2000-2022

Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com © 2000
Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a