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mercuryflow
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posted August 29, 2022 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuryflow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please have a look at this chart and tell me what you see. The narcissism of this person is heavy and deep. She has had no problem destroying the life of the father of her children. And doing her children no favors in the process.

I've witnessed countless lies, defamation, gaslighting.

If people worship her, she loves it, as soon as the tide begins to change, like they get a whiff of her falseness and huge ego, she cuts them off.

I'm particularly interested in Nessus in this chart as I've heard it often is important in charts of narcissists.

https://tinypic.host/i/jl.eXfQK

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CapriciousCapricorn
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posted August 30, 2022 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriciousCapricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Definitely loves attention and limelight - Leo Asc, Moon in 5H. Neptune Venus square - partners are aboslute perfection until they're nowhere near good enough and the new ideal partner appears. I'd say these can easily give her narcissistic traits.

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posted August 30, 2022 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuryflow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, I didn't even think about the 5H moon!!!

And ya, that Neptune-Venus square. I saw her once leave a longtime partner, great guy, in a really awful fashion. They had a trip to South America together, she went down first, and he came, like 2 weeks later, she left him pretty much as soon as he arrived like he meant nothing to her, mostly because he hadn't 'adapted' to the country yet, he 'stood out' ...like any gringo does.

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Definitely loves attention and limelight - Leo Asc, Moon in 5H. Neptune Venus square - partners are aboslute perfection until they're nowhere near good enough and the new ideal partner appears. I'd say these can easily give her narcissistic traits.

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posted August 30, 2022 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuryflow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Admin,
Can you move this post to Astrology 2.0?
Realized I put it here wrongly.

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posted September 19, 2022 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 14, 2022 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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93nov
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posted October 15, 2022 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 93nov     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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93nov
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posted October 15, 2022 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 93nov     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I tried the link and there is no chart btw. I might've copied it wrong.


But just my two cents based off experience and research:

Mercury- Uranus aspects

Moon-mars aspects (action tied to emotion. Lethal in the wrong hands)

Jupiter-Sun Jupiter-mars coupled with other NPD aspects
(Overdoing it. Grandiosity. Most people miss this one because it's JuPiTEr)

Pluto- personal planets , surprisingly the trine moreso than the harder aspects. Easy control. Easy flow. No hassle with hidden agenda.

Saturn is kinda like the wet blanket over it all. It just adds an extra layer of stubbornness and crap. Unwillingness to change.

Uranus changes too much. NPD. BPD.

I love this topic lol.

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outofideas
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posted October 18, 2022 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for outofideas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel like most of the astrology communtity is still not up to speed on the NPD stuff and what it is associated with. I think the major assumption is that it is a Pluto thing. No.
Think again.
What age are we sliding into now?
Who rules it? What does it stand for?
What are its shadow/negative traits?
Yeah.
It all makes sense now why all of these mental issues and various personality disorders are becoming so annoyingly prevalent.
And why there is a strong push to normalise any crazy or odd behaviour. And why it is all quite successful despite being super wrong and immoral. Sadly those who ride on top of this age with all of its issues are likely to be the most successful in its madness.

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93nov
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posted October 21, 2022 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 93nov     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by outofideas:
I feel like most of the astrology communtity is still not up to speed on the NPD stuff and what it is associated with. I think the major assumption is that it is a Pluto thing. No.
Think again.
What age are we sliding into now?
Who rules it? What does it stand for?
What are its shadow/negative traits?
Yeah.
It all makes sense now why all of these mental issues and various personality disorders are becoming so annoyingly prevalent.
And why there is a strong push to normalise any crazy or odd behaviour. And why it is all quite successful despite being super wrong and immoral. Sadly those who ride on top of this age with all of its issues are likely to be the most successful in its madness.

I agree completely.

I DO believe the flavor of how NPD and other mental health issues are expressed depends on the time period. I'm sure Pluto played a major role back in the 80s and 90s when my parents were coming up. My father's Pluto squares my mother's entire Gemini stellium and HE is the most narcissistic person I know..

Fast-forward: **URANUS**

The Aquarian Age.

Not just the Astrology community, but humanity as a whole..

People are still extremely dismissive of mental health topics. All empowerment podcasts and self-help books aside, we almost always still miss the mark. Very few content creators, advocate speakers, etc have successfully touched on the ROOT of the problems that have been plaguing humanity for centuries which is NPD. The devil in human form.

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posted October 21, 2022 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Before people were completely dismissing. Everything deviated from norms was labeled as belonging to mental institution. Privilege to be different was only for celebrities and wealthy.

With Pluto in Saggy, society started to talk about how people with developing problems, Autism and other mental health issues could actually co-exist in society and be normal.

However, there’s still a lot of stigma and discrimination.

So I don’t think it’s bad to normalize crazy or odd behavior as making it to be not a privilege of rich and famous as long as it doesn’t harm others.
It’s quite Pluto Saturn type of narcissism to label everybody who doesn’t behave like they need to be insane and dismiss them.
Uranus and Jupiter could be quite narcissistic, but in a different way.

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PlutoWasHere
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posted October 25, 2022 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Explanation from the Mayo Clinic:
“Narcissistic personality disorder — one of several types of personality disorders — is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others. But behind this mask of extreme confidence lies a fragile self-esteem that's vulnerable to the slightest criticism.”

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20366662

As I understand it, a person with narcissistic personality disorder has severe issues with self worth and in self defense projects an image of incredible self importance. I would expect that they have an afflicted Venus, 2nd house and/or 2nd house ruler to reflect these issues. Especially with Jupiter (grandiosity), Neptune (delusions) and Pluto (manipulation) involved. I don’t think a chart can predict mental health issues but it can help enlighten what kind internal conflicts are going on in a person.

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