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Thorshammer
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posted February 22, 2006 09:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Its been so quiet around here lately...whats going ON I wonder...all of us hibernating..or is it just me...lol?

The Subject Title above...I am a MSR reader, at least I was in the begining. I think sometimes there is a point where you have learned what you have forgotten and then you move on...But I have loved her writings and sense of life, and I think now is my time to get back into her.

Though I had seen the Threads in Free for all on Mary, they didnt really interest me as much since I had read her books; and now I have had the chance to get someone else on here to read her things, I decided to start to buy the books I didnt have.

I am a big Amazon Freak, it was Abesbooks for me, but Amazon has won out, anyhow, I came upon two of Rain's books that Were not familiar to me, and they really caught my eye for some good reasons.

one of the books is called FIRESIDE, this book is the young lady inviting you into her home and talking about things..many things.

Since I havent recieved it yet, I can only say this from her book ECLIPSE where she gathers many Q&A's as one reader asked her about Fireside (or commented):

In Fireside, you had a lot of conversational interruptions. Between the dogs, and feeding the Fire, and other events, it was very distracting

I conceived of Fireside as a way to invite you into my home and spend a typical evening with me. If you didn't like it there, you didn't have to stay...all you had to do was close the book

LOL...could you imagine the readers face who sent that comment in...getting hit in the face with her answer..lol. so I assume thats what the book intails coming into her home and just sitting on a mantle or lamp, listening, learning.

I think with all that Aries in Linda, she Might have responded that way too...who knows, though it would have been nice to see a Q&A from her also..right?

okay am I slipping off the crack...

what I notice about Amazon.com when you look at a book, it gives you CAPS or SIPS on whats in the book. In FIRESIDE the caps are, Star Babies, Punkin Pie, Cripple Creek, Little Self, Woodland Park, American Indians, DID YOU SEE THAT...CRIPPLE CREEK.

now I dont remember where Mary Summer Rain said she resided, I dont think in any of the books she ever said where she resided. I remember (this is so long ago...over 20 years ago)her talking about she and the husband being in the car and sliding down a icy hill into the street...it sounded rural and this was back then I am sure she has moved since then, but could she be in Cripple Creek or in the region? Very odd that it would come up in this book or obviously be a big part of it since its in the CAPS.

That was just one thing, The other book has really gotten me twisted and just confused. this one is called...ready for this one....
TRINED IN TWILIGHT
look at the front cover..

I forgot to mention in Fireside it's she and her friend SALLY talking...but here, I just got chills, not bad ones..lol. seeing that ragedy Ann doll in that little girls hand. Heck I even counted all the flowers around the door...lol. But its that little girl...the hair, the outfit, the doll, and the stained glass on the door, LOL. Am I loosing my mind..lol?

Linda and her stained windows...the student knocking on the teachers door...lol...did she answer and talk talk talk to that little girl?

The book says Cover Concept by MSR. I would love to know what made her (well I will when I get the book..lol) think of that concept, a little girl knocking on the door, carrying of all things that doll, well Barbie of course wouldn't have been a good choice, but why ANNE? the CAPS on Amazon for TRINED IN TWILIGHT are;
Little Self, Higher Self, Raggedy Ann, Great Nothing, Mary Belle, Keepers of the Soul, Wind Spirit.

CMON!!! Little Self, Higher Self, Raggedy Ann..hmmmm

and the SIPs is: mahogany eyes, twilight time. Wasn't Twilight Time that time when Linda stated about the birds stopped singing and such?

Now I am not saying that MSR got any of this from Linda...not at all! I think its so cool to see these things in another writer, its like it moving on and on and will never stop, the torch was passed on to many, Mary, Kathleen, many of us.

take a look at the back of the book


So when I write Linda Goodman Vs. Mary Summer Rain, I dont mean as in whos better or what books to read, I mean "WHAT is going on!!!!"

There definately is no Coincidence here, NONE at all!!

I guess I better get back on my reading of MSR.

I cannot really quote on MSR's contact with Native things, I think thats another story down the road, we'll see. let me know what you seekers think!!!

PS...if you click on the pictures, it should open another window and then if you put your mouse on it it will show a small box on the bottom to make it bigger so you can read or see what I am stating.

PSS...third edit...not to mention it is published by Hampton publishing...another coincidence...or not?

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lotusheartone
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posted February 22, 2006 10:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Thorshammer!

I take a cador that the little Self (mind you I have not read that particular book yet, hehe) is acknowleding your inner child=little self
to higher self=woman to Over Soul=crone all knowing Over Soul, that each of US is connect to..
is it a coincidence that all these signs are appearing, all these similiarities are showing up..
from my liitle Self, hehe, it's Magical..Mystical..
ever revealing spirit of the God MOther that is here for ALL..

the one thing that Mary goes in another direction though.. is that God Father is balance, neither can be focused on more than than the other, this is the mistake..
she states to female essence and only one male, to me the balance would be..
the trinity.. Mother Father, daughter/or son
it could be either or, it is the balancing factor, perhaps she is right, I see as I write that this time around this last trinity may contain 2 female essence to counter balance with much Love..
only time will tell..

sign sign everywhere a sign..

skips away, with Raggedy ANN with no E, and Andy in hand...

MOther and Father God are Equal, just as

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salome
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posted February 23, 2006 04:43 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mary summer rain

mary alice kemery (LG's real name)

has anyone compared their numerology?

Thorshammer ~ very nice discovery!

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Thorshammer
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posted February 23, 2006 01:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Salome, MSR was 23 and 5, and MAK was 13 and 4. Could that be why Linda changed her name, didnt like the 4? I put in SAM GOODMAN which was a 12, 3, but assuming....just assuming his name was SAMUEL (which sounds more that era) Samuel Goodman would have been 53, 8, and samuel itself 22,4, Goodman,31,4. lots to look at. Thank you Salome

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salome
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posted February 24, 2006 12:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thorshammer ~

thanks again for posting these parallels....i've noted the hampton roads connection before....

and today i was thinkin....
back to the magical time that i discovered LG...

in a barnes and noble bookstore, i was interested in learning about astrology...
and LG's books kept jumping out at me in the astrology section.

especially goodberz, and i considered myself much more 'literary' back then, so i ignored gooberz' insistence numerous times!....but i kept going back....and it always seemed to sparkle and shimmer at me...finally i got star signs, and sun signs....and linda's wisdom began seeping into my consciousness....and gooberz soon followed...

anyway, what i remembered today was that at the same that gooberz was trying to capture my attention...another book was doing the same thing! i can recall mary summer rain's books glimmering at me from the shelf also....several times those books tried to jump into my arms, but i was a lot more stubborn then.....

i became all involved in the LG literature and ignored my impulse to explore MSR....
these days though i listen much more to the Universe whispering in my ear...

now that you've illustrated these similarities between these authors, i'm finding my initial experience with their books compelling and interesting.....

that they both were sparkling and singing to me simultaneously....what was the universe up to??

i have an MSR book...i shall seek some others....what one would you recommend?

i just noticed also, that LG wrote Gooberz in 1967, my year o' birth....hhhhmmmmmm.....synchronicities abound!

Thorshammer....you've nudged my third eye a bit here, and sent me a-spiralling.....

splendid work, kind sir.

love from salome

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Thorshammer
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posted February 24, 2006 01:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Salome...

Life is so funny. I had the same Similarities...Barnes and Noble too, Schaumburg IL, West side of store..lol. Gooberz didnt hit me, nor Love signs...I saw them, but just looked at them sitting there on the shelf, I know now I wasnt ready for them. MSR rang to me. Funny how we can be, because back then I saw the book "the only astrology book you'll ever need" and I wouldnt touch it, I thought the title so corny. But a friend on here that I trust dearly told me it was a good book, so I purchased it and I was so wrong before. I guess that other side of us knows when to release the interest: THE TRUE TEACHER, WITHIN US...THE ORIGIN!

I think all of MSR's books are good, I love Earthway, packed with Info that I really liked, and it introduced THE GREAT ALONE...which many on this site have and dont really pay attention to that part of themselves, instead always said about being alone or a spouse not understanding them...I too was like this before, but once you embrace the Great Alone its so much better. anyhow....

I know Mary Summer has changed a little in her writings, I guess with all the Q&A's over the years and other things, I think agitation got to her a little, she is only human. I say this because reading reviews from readers of her books, many talked about her books being different styles later. I think she has come to the point of maybe defending herself more, and then just not caring who says what.

I remember her stating that when No-eyes found her, she yelled out "Summer Rain", a name no one had called her in years, then she said once that a Older Native friend came to her door to ask her questions, I think the Native part has been blown out of proportion by many. Many if not most of us have Native American blood in us, its something you should be proud of, Mary was very proud of what she says is in her, but thats not what grabbed me about her writings, it was her heart.

Heck there was a time when I thought of the equation that No-Eyes and Brian Many Heart, really did'nt exist; And if they didn't...so what, tis the meaning of her words that grab us, change us into better people. Linda Too.

I have no doubt Linda Goodman wrote or talked to Mary Summer Rain, in her Library collection there was a copy of MSR's Spirit song, someone bought it, and it was stated as a collectible, I bet it was signed by MSR. In the things I obtained from the Seller of the Library, there were letters to other writers, Inquiries into things, and many of those books for sale were signed to Linda from the Authors, their spouses or other close friends.

So knowing Linda owned a book of Mary's says a lot and comfirms those visits to the bookstore and seeing both of these fine woman as they sang lullabies to us.

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"There is no use trying," said Alice; "one can't believe impossible things." "I dare say you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Lewis Carroll

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My ears have pricked up; my interest in Mary Summer Rain has been rekindled.....this is a fascinating subject I thank thee for sharing these (rather uncanny) synchronicitys with us all! I am tempted to order the book 'Trined in Twilight' now; yes. All you elflings who have set out to investigate this matter further also, do keep us informed!

(& some great being of Light somewhere...send me some more faith; I crave the consistency of the more focused sunsigns; Scorpio, Capricorn & so on;-the solidity of Earth, the drive of Fire;-as well as the creativity and mutability of water and air)
sorry, i'm waffling there!

I'll catch you guys later

Wishing you Love & Light

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clare
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posted August 05, 2006 07:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thorshammer - you're on the right track.

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Thorshammer
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posted August 06, 2006 12:40 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tell me Clare....Tell Me, I havent read them yet. they are whispering to me in the bookcase

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posted August 06, 2006 02:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow.......

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posted August 06, 2006 02:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow.......

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posted February 21, 2007 12:53 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I often wondered how they both were in Colorado... both had their first husband named the same...

Weird and both of their writing style is similar: Intriguing, compelling, and authentic!

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Thorshammer
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posted February 21, 2007 01:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Silver..that was such a good catch...I never saw that..the bill thing nor the aries thing...JUST WONDERFUL!!! LOL.

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lotusheartone
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posted February 21, 2007 08:42 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
we never find out what happened to Mary Summer Rain's Bill...

we know that the dark forces are getting to him..that they separate..did they get divorced..I don't remember?
but I dreamt, that he came to kill her..and she had no choice but to shoot him...just a dream..I hope!

2 lovely Aries women...
who kept their pledge, their promise
for tomorrow...

to tell Us about all these things...

I also dreamt that I met Mary Summer Rain...
I hope that comes true!

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posted February 21, 2007 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Twas just a dream dear lotusheartone;just a dream.

MSR clearly tells us what happened to Bill... Seek and Ye Shall Find...

Quite!

If we set aside the Earthling similarities i.e. both Aries, in Colorado, both women.... We can look to the message and See the Teachings of Universal Law.

Perhaps we should be wary of being blinded by illusion in the material,but instead, Seek the Universal Teachers that taught these lovely women to Gift to us the Knowledge and Wisdom.

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posted February 21, 2007 10:40 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought it so strange...WIKIPEDIA doesn't have a thing on Mary Summer..at least I have never seen ANYTHING on there. you would think that one of her fans would write a page on her...

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lotusheartone
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posted February 21, 2007 12:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Juniperb, I believe I read all her books, and do not recall, where Bill went, or what happened, care to elaborate, I mean if it's in a book, you could point to which one..like I said Ihave them all. ...

Thorshammer, There is a whole site about her books, on a string in Universal Codes posted by Sweet Stars, Edgar Cayce Preditions...
I emaoled the owner, to find out it wasn't her...and to try through the publishers, I wrote a letter last year to them, and never heard anything back. ...

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posted February 21, 2007 03:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
since we have two eclipses coming in March...

The moon, a luminous orb of reflected light
symbolizing not only knowledge, wisdom, and
enlightenment but, more importantly, human-
kind's "reflected" behaviour of same. Eclipse.
The moon in eclipse, when that brilliantly illumined enlightenment is momentarily darkened
by shadow, is when knowledge, wisdom, and enlightenment is temporarily forgotten and
minds slip back into a Dark Age of Ignorance
full of hate, intolerance, and persecution.
Rather the eclipse be a reminder of that precarious intellectual possibility. Eclipse, a sign that we must never let our ascending enlightenment be pulled back into its dark depths--a sign that despite a moment of darkness...the Light of Wisdom prevails.

Mary Summer Rain
Eclipse
copyright 1999

my apologies to you Juniperb, I do not have them all...I've found seven so far, and there is a total of 18...and I would be very grateful if you could point out which book it is in...Thanks

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Thorshammer
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posted February 21, 2007 03:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My lovely friend

I think there is something in eclipse on page 173,but i am pretty sure there is a question inthere somewhere asking "where is bill..or what happened to him?" i know there is something in ECLIPSE.

MUAH!!!

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lotusheartone
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posted February 21, 2007 03:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mwah!

the One I had in my hands, hehe

Thanks!

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To date, I know of 24 published books
Off hand, I don`t recall which title but I believe it is one of the last 4 or 5. When I return home, I will look at the title for you.

Bill commited suicide His intention was to take MSR with him but her Wisdom alerted her & she is left to writeus more insightful books.

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lotusheartone
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posted February 21, 2007 04:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks a bunch!

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Thorshammer
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WOW..I didnt know that...what a shame. in the first three books, I remember when the truck was going down the hill and it just stopped before getting hit and NO EYES told her it didnt happen because they were together...and THE GREAT ALONE when she told her she would get it...I always wondered how Bill would take that...I think you could sense they wouldn't be together later...but suicide...my word...

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lotusheartone
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posted March 06, 2007 01:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you know what, I think I had a flash, of one of the probablities that could have happened...

I feel bad for Bill, what a butthead thing to do...hehe

LOve for Linda and Mary...

and for ALL

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