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T O P I C R E V I E WOrangeTrying desperately to find out the Rising of a friend. He is either a Leo or a Cancer Rising. What is the main difference between these two? I am not good at guessing ASC.Orangehis chart if a Leo Rising:ComatoesSince he doesn't like to take pictures, I guess you don't have a pic? But if I 'm going by intuition, I would say Leo Asc, because Pisces Venus can give soft features similar to Cancer features. Fish eyes sound Pisces or Moon/Neptune related. But you always notice Leo Asc. they may try to hide and act shy, but they can't hide the presence or fire emanating from them. Venus in Pisces can be enigmatic, and Virgo Moons are not into self promotion as much. Virgo Moons can be a sensitive, shy placement, going well beyond what is needed in work, helpful generous tendencies. Hairless chest can be related to Virgo too, I think. Aries and Leo can have large faces and cranium.You say he has a hard time with friends -- Saturn in 3rd, lot of women friends Moon in 3rd, strong need to protect family Pluto in 4th, rough childhood also Pluto/Saturn related. I would think Saturn conjunct IC could explain the abandonment this is in the Leo chart. But the Cancer Rising could explain his life too with 4th house prominent, in this chart Neptune is in 6th, does he have allergies or very sick a lot? Sacrifices in employment.I really don't know, but if he really wants to know, he should get his chart professionally rectified, than he will know for sure.jupitersgirlI'd say leo rising. LeeLoo2014The rough childhood could be explained by Pluto in the 4th. Saturn is there as well.Is he a 9th or a 10th house Sun? Usually the house of the Sun should be quite visible in one's personality/life.Is he very sexy to women, women fall for him, he has many admirers? Eros in the 1st often gives that.Is he artistic/very much into fantasy art and/or music? Neptune in the 5th.My guess, from your description, is Leo.------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...OrangeJupitersgirl, I also think he is a Leo Riser. OrangeNeptune can make one either sickly, or the opposite - elusive to sickness and illness. I've heard people with natal Sun-Neptune conjunction live to very old ageAries23DegreesWhen sorting out Asc questions,I use the whole house system and watch for transits to personal planets that rule a specific house.In his case,Mars is in 7 degrees of Libra and Venus at 0 Degrees.Nice!! Because that means that the Pluto/Uranus transit has already gone through Mars and rNeptune is messing with Venus.In retrospect,what has been happening?In the whole house system, Mars rules the 10th(Cancer rising) as well as sub-ruling the 5th. Venus rules the 11th house and 4th.But Mars rules the 9th(Leo rising), as well as sub-ruling the 4th.Venus rules 3rd house as well as 10th houseAsk him of general changes and see if they fit in with either horoscopes.Uranus is disturbances and inconveniences. Whilst Pluto tears down and then re-builds.Neptune is complete wipe-out or spiritual tendencies.So I am guessing that something is happening.One of these transits is pulling things upside down. Find out which and link it with the horoscope house.Kannon McAfeeMy Rising Signs Page has as good a summary of each one as you will find anywhere. This link takes you straight to Cancer and you can keep reading through Leo: http://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/rising-signs-2/#cancer ------------------Expert rectification, professional astrology consultshttp://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/Complete desriptions of all Rising Signs: https://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/rising-signs-2/ OrangeThank you, twoKannon McAfeeOrange, what makes you certain it must be either Leo or Cancer?------------------Professional astrology - Expert rectification http://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/Complete desriptions of all Rising Signs: https://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/rising-signs-2/ Celebrity examples: http://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/2014/12/06/george-clooney-birth-horoscope/ OrangeKannon,he said he was born somewhere around noon or an hour or two before that.Orange And Aries23, just like you said - Mars is being worked out by the transits recently. Aries23Degrees quote:Originally posted by Orange:ok, he just said, with as less details as possible, that one of his parent is obviously sick and it could be the bad illness. Since last month, he travels to his home state often to help. So, his IC or MC must be under attack right now. And KANNON, just like you said - Mars is being worked out by the transits recently. and Mars is the ruler of his MC ( father)Seems like either Pluto or Uranus transits squaring his Libra- Aries IC/MC which means I have to adjust the ASC to get a 12'- 14' or close to that degree for the IC/MC.and I just adjusted it , and the Rising became 29' Cancer if the IC/MC becomes 13' Libra-Aries... OR, 0' Leo, if the IC/MC are at 14' Libra-Aries.hhmmm, right on the edge. I don't now...Very good. But take your time as this is tricky.Mars rules the 10th house(Cancer Asc) but also co-rules the 4th house(Leo Rising).And it could also be Venus;ruler of 4th/11th house if Cancer is rising. And ruler of 10th /3rd house (if Leo is rising).What about Mercury though? You mentioned that he travels(mercury)a lot.Mercury rules 3rd house(Cancer rising)and 12th house.Mercury rules the 2nd house(Leo rising) and the 11th house. The transit of Pluto to Mercury can(at worst) have one thinking fatalistic thoughts. Their perspective becomes progressively serious and melancholic.The fact that Mercury also rules 12th house(in Cancer rising) suggests someone who often wants to hide away or be by themselves.Whilst when ruling the 11th house(Leo Asc), ones associations with friends cool. Progressively wanting less company than more.There is a need herein that stresses quality conversations about really personal issues and a psychological analysis is encouraged.OrangeAries23, my dear,what you said here sounds like that personAries23DegreesIt's really tough to do it. Not with such little information.Saturn opposition Mercury/Sun nataly suggests a serious,reserved individual who keeps their own company anyways.The current Pluto transits only make it worse.I am also looking at natal Saturn in square aspect to tUranus; things we use to count on for stability are no longer reliable.tr Pluto square natal Saturn can also bring about the collapse of the old order. A very austere period in one's life.If Leo is Asc, he may have to watch his health. The added transit of Pluto/Uranus to the harsh Saturn opposition suggests that he may not be at his best physically and is more prone to accidents or illnesses related to stress.If Cancer is Asc,his finances may suffer a heavy blow.There may be inconveniences at this time that necessitate a great deal of spending money or swallowing ones pride and lend it when it runs out.Making a budget is near impossible.If Leo Asc, the Pluto/Uranus square to natal Saturn suggests that cash is hard to come by. One has to make plans to see themselves through.If Cancer Asc, the Pluto/Uranus square suggests that close partnerships may go through a strain. In love relationships ,adjustments need to be made or else a break-up is imminent. It can be a very lonely period if one is already single/ without close partnerships.
He is either a Leo or a Cancer Rising. What is the main difference between these two? I am not good at guessing ASC.
But if I 'm going by intuition, I would say Leo Asc, because Pisces Venus can give soft features similar to Cancer features. Fish eyes sound Pisces or Moon/Neptune related. But you always notice Leo Asc. they may try to hide and act shy, but they can't hide the presence or fire emanating from them. Venus in Pisces can be enigmatic, and Virgo Moons are not into self promotion as much. Virgo Moons can be a sensitive, shy placement, going well beyond what is needed in work, helpful generous tendencies. Hairless chest can be related to Virgo too, I think. Aries and Leo can have large faces and cranium.
You say he has a hard time with friends -- Saturn in 3rd, lot of women friends Moon in 3rd, strong need to protect family Pluto in 4th, rough childhood also Pluto/Saturn related. I would think Saturn conjunct IC could explain the abandonment this is in the Leo chart.
But the Cancer Rising could explain his life too with 4th house prominent, in this chart Neptune is in 6th, does he have allergies or very sick a lot? Sacrifices in employment.
I really don't know, but if he really wants to know, he should get his chart professionally rectified, than he will know for sure.
Is he a 9th or a 10th house Sun? Usually the house of the Sun should be quite visible in one's personality/life.
Is he very sexy to women, women fall for him, he has many admirers? Eros in the 1st often gives that.
Is he artistic/very much into fantasy art and/or music? Neptune in the 5th.
My guess, from your description, is Leo.
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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...
In his case,Mars is in 7 degrees of Libra and Venus at 0 Degrees.Nice!! Because that means that the Pluto/Uranus transit has already gone through Mars and rNeptune is messing with Venus.
In retrospect,what has been happening?
In the whole house system, Mars rules the 10th(Cancer rising) as well as sub-ruling the 5th. Venus rules the 11th house and 4th.
But Mars rules the 9th(Leo rising), as well as sub-ruling the 4th.Venus rules 3rd house as well as 10th house
Ask him of general changes and see if they fit in with either horoscopes.
Uranus is disturbances and inconveniences. Whilst Pluto tears down and then re-builds.Neptune is complete wipe-out or spiritual tendencies.
So I am guessing that something is happening.One of these transits is pulling things upside down. Find out which and link it with the horoscope house.
This link takes you straight to Cancer and you can keep reading through Leo:
http://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/rising-signs-2/#cancer
------------------Expert rectification, professional astrology consultshttp://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/Complete desriptions of all Rising Signs: https://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/rising-signs-2/
------------------Professional astrology - Expert rectification http://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/Complete desriptions of all Rising Signs: https://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/rising-signs-2/ Celebrity examples: http://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/2014/12/06/george-clooney-birth-horoscope/
he said he was born somewhere around noon or an hour or two before that.
quote:Originally posted by Orange:ok, he just said, with as less details as possible, that one of his parent is obviously sick and it could be the bad illness. Since last month, he travels to his home state often to help. So, his IC or MC must be under attack right now. And KANNON, just like you said - Mars is being worked out by the transits recently. and Mars is the ruler of his MC ( father)Seems like either Pluto or Uranus transits squaring his Libra- Aries IC/MC which means I have to adjust the ASC to get a 12'- 14' or close to that degree for the IC/MC.and I just adjusted it , and the Rising became 29' Cancer if the IC/MC becomes 13' Libra-Aries... OR, 0' Leo, if the IC/MC are at 14' Libra-Aries.hhmmm, right on the edge. I don't now...
Seems like either Pluto or Uranus transits squaring his Libra- Aries IC/MC which means I have to adjust the ASC to get a 12'- 14' or close to that degree for the IC/MC.
and I just adjusted it , and the Rising became 29' Cancer if the IC/MC becomes 13' Libra-Aries... OR, 0' Leo, if the IC/MC are at 14' Libra-Aries.hhmmm, right on the edge. I don't now...
Very good. But take your time as this is tricky.
Mars rules the 10th house(Cancer Asc) but also co-rules the 4th house(Leo Rising).
And it could also be Venus;ruler of 4th/11th house if Cancer is rising. And ruler of 10th /3rd house (if Leo is rising).
What about Mercury though? You mentioned that he travels(mercury)a lot.
Mercury rules 3rd house(Cancer rising)and 12th house.
Mercury rules the 2nd house(Leo rising) and the 11th house.
The transit of Pluto to Mercury can(at worst) have one thinking fatalistic thoughts. Their perspective becomes progressively serious and melancholic.
The fact that Mercury also rules 12th house(in Cancer rising) suggests someone who often wants to hide away or be by themselves.
Whilst when ruling the 11th house(Leo Asc), ones associations with friends cool. Progressively wanting less company than more.
There is a need herein that stresses quality conversations about really personal issues and a psychological analysis is encouraged.
what you said here sounds like that person
Saturn opposition Mercury/Sun nataly suggests a serious,reserved individual who keeps their own company anyways.
The current Pluto transits only make it worse.
I am also looking at natal Saturn in square aspect to tUranus; things we use to count on for stability are no longer reliable.
tr Pluto square natal Saturn can also bring about the collapse of the old order. A very austere period in one's life.
If Leo is Asc, he may have to watch his health. The added transit of Pluto/Uranus to the harsh Saturn opposition suggests that he may not be at his best physically and is more prone to accidents or illnesses related to stress.
If Cancer is Asc,his finances may suffer a heavy blow.There may be inconveniences at this time that necessitate a great deal of spending money or swallowing ones pride and lend it when it runs out.Making a budget is near impossible.
If Leo Asc, the Pluto/Uranus square to natal Saturn suggests that cash is hard to come by. One has to make plans to see themselves through.
If Cancer Asc, the Pluto/Uranus square suggests that close partnerships may go through a strain. In love relationships ,adjustments need to be made or else a break-up is imminent. It can be a very lonely period if one is already single/ without close partnerships.
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