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T O P I C R E V I E WGaneshastro14Composite Pluto conjunct love stellium in scorpio. Do you have any experience with this aspect ? I wonder if this could be the indicator of a karmic relationship. Hikaru29Can you post the chart?I'm experiencing the square which is different but I would imagine Pluto conjunct love stellium to be more of the positives which is intense, all-consuming, deep bond.Ganeshastro14 quote:Originally posted by Hikaru29:Can you post the chart?I'm experiencing the square which is different but I would imagine Pluto conjunct love stellium to be more of the positives which is intense, all-consuming, deep bond.I'm new and I don't know how to post the chart... How can I do ?Isn't a conjunction by pluto considered as a hard aspect too ? (Along with the square and the opposition) Isn't it even more intense as the planets are merging in the conjunction ?Hikaru29 quote:Originally posted by Ganeshastro14: I'm new and I don't know how to post the chart... How can I do ?Isn't a conjunction by pluto considered as a hard aspect too ? (Along with the square and the opposition) Isn't it even more intense as the planets are merging in the conjunction ?Square and Opposition are equally intense just that negative manifestations are more likely.You can post your chart on www.imgur.com, then copy and paste the image link here using [img]...[/img]. Remember to remove the 's' from 'https'. Ganeshastro14Here's the chart. I hope it works http://imgur.com/QtJDJDO One of the two person has natal sun and moon in scorpio both conjunct pluto, and venus in scorpio. And pluto is his dominant planet.Hikaru29I saw your other thread. Is it the same couple? Not sure if the gal with mostly fire/air placements will be quite as comfortable in this relationship, unless she has other Pluto aspects or placements.The composite does look romantic and intense although the Mars may give a bit of problem. Opposition to Moon makes it unstable and it’s also the apex of a YoD… but the planet is suppressed in 12H which means things brew in the subconscious and you’re not fully aware what the other person wants.Ganeshastro14 quote:Originally posted by Hikaru29:I saw your other thread. Is it the same couple? Not sure if the gal with mostly fire/air placements will be quite as comfortable in this relationship, unless she has other Pluto aspects or placements.The composite does look romantic and intense although the Mars may give a bit of problem. Opposition to Moon makes it unstable and it’s also the apex of a YoD… but the planet is suppressed in 12H which means things brew in the subconscious and you’re not fully aware what the other person wants.Yes it is the same thread. It looks romantic but I thought it looked karmic while doing my research (for months actually). In the all websites and videos I watched they said that with pluto hard aspects (conjunctions, oppositions and squares) it can be a plutonic relationship with power struggles, passion, emotional intensity, manipulation, destruction, love-hate, etc. It's seemingly karmic. There are also the quincunx : mars-neptune, mars-sun, mars-venus that are quite bad...Ganeshastro14 quote:Originally posted by Hikaru29:I saw your other thread. Is it the same couple? Not sure if the gal with mostly fire/air placements will be quite as comfortable in this relationship, unless she has other Pluto aspects or placements.The composite does look romantic and intense although the Mars may give a bit of problem. Opposition to Moon makes it unstable and it’s also the apex of a YoD… but the planet is suppressed in 12H which means things brew in the subconscious and you’re not fully aware what the other person wants.I forgot to tell you that she currently lives a pluto transit squaring her venus in libra. Which means that she may experience pluto through her partner/relationship and that she doesn't really act like a venus in libra. In their wedding chart, pluto retrograde is conjunct the descendant. They got married a few weeks ago. Hikaru29It can be karmic too and filled with those descriptives you wrote. With Pluto it's very difficult to resist even with the negatives. Experience will depend on how mature the individuals are and their natals. How's her natal Pluto placed & aspected?With transit Pluto squaring natal Venus, it can draw her into a plutonian relationship, one that's irresistible and obsessive yet not entirely comfortable, I would think, since it's the square. When this transit is over, the spell may be gone. She may no longer feel so emotionally consumed by the relationship."There are also the quincunx : mars-neptune, mars-sun, mars-venus that are quite bad..."That's in the YoD I mentioned in my previous post with Mars as apex and Mars is also opposite Moon so these can cause problems especially with Mars in subconscious 12H. Issues may not be apparent or they don't feel right but don't talk about it. Ganeshastro14 quote:Originally posted by Hikaru29:It can be karmic too and filled with those descriptives you wrote. With Pluto it's very difficult to resist even with the negatives. Experience will depend on how mature the individuals are and their natals. How's her natal Pluto placed & aspected?With transit Pluto squaring natal Venus, it can draw her into a plutonian relationship, one that's irresistible and obsessive yet not entirely comfortable, I would think, since it's the square. When this transit is over, the spell may be gone. She may no longer feel so emotionally consumed by the relationship.[b]"There are also the quincunx : mars-neptune, mars-sun, mars-venus that are quite bad..."That's in the YoD I mentioned in my previous post with Mars as apex and Mars is also opposite Moon so these can cause problems especially with Mars in subconscious 12H. Issues may not be apparent or they don't feel right but don't talk about it. [/B]Her pluto is inconjunct her mars, that's the only aspect pluto makes in her natal chart. Pluto is in the 3rd house.And in a few months, pluto transit will also square her sun and mercury. At the same time he will have saturn transit squaring his sun, moon and venus.Hard time for them...The transit pluto transit to her venus begun just few weeks before the wedding and in their wedding chart pluto is conjunct the descendant. Living the plutonian relationship in the wedding maybe ? Also, they got married during his progressed venus conjunct uranus...
Do you have any experience with this aspect ?
I wonder if this could be the indicator of a karmic relationship.
I'm experiencing the square which is different but I would imagine Pluto conjunct love stellium to be more of the positives which is intense, all-consuming, deep bond.
quote:Originally posted by Hikaru29:Can you post the chart?I'm experiencing the square which is different but I would imagine Pluto conjunct love stellium to be more of the positives which is intense, all-consuming, deep bond.
I'm new and I don't know how to post the chart... How can I do ?Isn't a conjunction by pluto considered as a hard aspect too ? (Along with the square and the opposition) Isn't it even more intense as the planets are merging in the conjunction ?
quote:Originally posted by Ganeshastro14: I'm new and I don't know how to post the chart... How can I do ?Isn't a conjunction by pluto considered as a hard aspect too ? (Along with the square and the opposition) Isn't it even more intense as the planets are merging in the conjunction ?
Square and Opposition are equally intense just that negative manifestations are more likely.
You can post your chart on www.imgur.com, then copy and paste the image link here using [img]...[/img]. Remember to remove the 's' from 'https'.
One of the two person has natal sun and moon in scorpio both conjunct pluto, and venus in scorpio. And pluto is his dominant planet.
The composite does look romantic and intense although the Mars may give a bit of problem. Opposition to Moon makes it unstable and it’s also the apex of a YoD… but the planet is suppressed in 12H which means things brew in the subconscious and you’re not fully aware what the other person wants.
quote:Originally posted by Hikaru29:I saw your other thread. Is it the same couple? Not sure if the gal with mostly fire/air placements will be quite as comfortable in this relationship, unless she has other Pluto aspects or placements.The composite does look romantic and intense although the Mars may give a bit of problem. Opposition to Moon makes it unstable and it’s also the apex of a YoD… but the planet is suppressed in 12H which means things brew in the subconscious and you’re not fully aware what the other person wants.
Yes it is the same thread. It looks romantic but I thought it looked karmic while doing my research (for months actually). In the all websites and videos I watched they said that with pluto hard aspects (conjunctions, oppositions and squares) it can be a plutonic relationship with power struggles, passion, emotional intensity, manipulation, destruction, love-hate, etc. It's seemingly karmic.
There are also the quincunx : mars-neptune, mars-sun, mars-venus that are quite bad...
I forgot to tell you that she currently lives a pluto transit squaring her venus in libra. Which means that she may experience pluto through her partner/relationship and that she doesn't really act like a venus in libra. In their wedding chart, pluto retrograde is conjunct the descendant. They got married a few weeks ago.
With transit Pluto squaring natal Venus, it can draw her into a plutonian relationship, one that's irresistible and obsessive yet not entirely comfortable, I would think, since it's the square. When this transit is over, the spell may be gone. She may no longer feel so emotionally consumed by the relationship.
"There are also the quincunx : mars-neptune, mars-sun, mars-venus that are quite bad..."
That's in the YoD I mentioned in my previous post with Mars as apex and Mars is also opposite Moon so these can cause problems especially with Mars in subconscious 12H. Issues may not be apparent or they don't feel right but don't talk about it.
quote:Originally posted by Hikaru29:It can be karmic too and filled with those descriptives you wrote. With Pluto it's very difficult to resist even with the negatives. Experience will depend on how mature the individuals are and their natals. How's her natal Pluto placed & aspected?With transit Pluto squaring natal Venus, it can draw her into a plutonian relationship, one that's irresistible and obsessive yet not entirely comfortable, I would think, since it's the square. When this transit is over, the spell may be gone. She may no longer feel so emotionally consumed by the relationship.[b]"There are also the quincunx : mars-neptune, mars-sun, mars-venus that are quite bad..."That's in the YoD I mentioned in my previous post with Mars as apex and Mars is also opposite Moon so these can cause problems especially with Mars in subconscious 12H. Issues may not be apparent or they don't feel right but don't talk about it. [/B]
[b]"There are also the quincunx : mars-neptune, mars-sun, mars-venus that are quite bad..."
That's in the YoD I mentioned in my previous post with Mars as apex and Mars is also opposite Moon so these can cause problems especially with Mars in subconscious 12H. Issues may not be apparent or they don't feel right but don't talk about it. [/B]
Her pluto is inconjunct her mars, that's the only aspect pluto makes in her natal chart. Pluto is in the 3rd house.And in a few months, pluto transit will also square her sun and mercury. At the same time he will have saturn transit squaring his sun, moon and venus.
Hard time for them...
The transit pluto transit to her venus begun just few weeks before the wedding and in their wedding chart pluto is conjunct the descendant. Living the plutonian relationship in the wedding maybe ?
Also, they got married during his progressed venus conjunct uranus...
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