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T O P I C R E V I E WJoJoThis is the synastry chart of my ex boyfriend and I who lived together for a little over a year. I broke up with him a month ago and he's STILL living on my couch! I can't get him to leave no matter how forceful I am about it. He says he's working on it, but the man hasn't even packed one box. I've point blank told him that I don't want him in my house anymore, but it has no effect on him. Why in the world is this guy sticking around where he's clearly not wanted, and what can I do to get him gone? I feel like he's holding my life hostage right now. Thanks beccathelionI mean, I can't read natal charts, but having gone through something of a similar situation if he isn't on the lease/deed... throw his stuff outside and change the locks. If that still doesn't work, just call the cops. He sounds like he isn't going to leave and that words aren't working. Time for action I'm so sorry you have to go through this.JoJo quote:Originally posted by beccathelion:I mean, I can't read natal charts, but having gone through something of a similar situation if he isn't on the lease/deed... throw his stuff outside and change the locks. If that still doesn't work, just call the cops. He sounds like he isn't going to leave and that words aren't working. Time for action I'm so sorry you have to go through this.Thank you, but he is on the lease and he's not threatening me. In fact, it's quite the opposite, he's still trying to do everything for me. I'm to the point now where I actually hate him. It sucks.beccathelion quote:Originally posted by JoJo: Thank you, but he is on the lease and he's not threatening me. In fact, it's quite the opposite, he's still trying to do everything for me. I'm to the point now where I actually hate him. It sucks.I'm so sorry, dude. That's the worst. That was how my ex-boyfriend was too. I finally got him out, but he still came by every day after work, because he "wanted to see me," even after I basically told him to drop dead. I finally moved to 3000 miles away for work, and that fixed it. Such a crap situation. JoJoIt's awful. I mean, if someone told me to my face they didn't want me anywhere near them, you wouldn't see me again!What makes people do that?beccathelion quote:Originally posted by JoJo:It's awful. I mean, if someone told me to my face they didn't want me anywhere near them, you wouldn't see me again!What makes people do that?Beats the hell out of me. He was a Gem Sun/Aries Moon/Leo Asc -- he just wanted what he wanted I guess. I mean, if it helps at all, I could do a 5 card tarot reading for you on how to maybe get him out? Or a Celtic cross? I have a pretty decent track record on here (no one has publicly berated me for inaccuracy or stupidity yet :s )JoJoThat would be amazing. Thank you!beccathelionWhy He Won't Leave (physically): 9 of Swords (r)Why He Won't Leave (emotionally): 7 of Swords How You Subconsciously Feel: 5 of PentaclesBest Way to Get Him Out: Hermit (r)Overall Outcome: 6 of SwordsWell, the good news is that there is little to worry about on the emotional front. 3 out of 5 are swords and the other two are far from the heart-pangs associated with this sort of thing. So at least this is a mental issue that can be approached rationally. The 9 reversed says to me that he is just refusing to physically deal with moving because, financially and psychologically, it's more stress than he wants to handle right now. Is he going through some job drama? Or does he have some sort of job that operates on a freelance sort of basis? I feel like there's a transitory nature to most of his life and career, and his home is the one place where he doesn't want to have to deal with that. He's just refusing to move, because he's refusing to deal with the host of issues that'll come barreling at him as soon as he does. The 7 upright says sort of the same thing to me: emotionally, he just isn't dealing. Not only is he not dealing, he's actively trying to see how much/how far he get can get by ignoring what's going on around him. This card always has the sense of "getting away with something" buried in the image. I think he feels like, "Oh, hey. Made it through that break-up okay by ignoring it happened. Probably will get to live here longer if I keep doing it." Lots of denial. Lots of emotional self-deception on his part.Subconsciously you feel 5 of Pents... victimized. So maybe not so subconscious I mean, you are being taken advantage of and are starting to feel helpless. The way to get him out (and free yourself from this abyssal of bleh) is the Hermit reversed. Start acting like you don't care. Start focusing on you. Start dating again. Just keep going and actually start having fun. Bring somebody home. While he is a huge distraction both personally and domestically -- it's time to focus on Jo-Jo and Jo-Jo solely. Stop worrying about his feelings or him at all. Do what you do. The outcome... 6 of Swords. He'll get tired of being the footnote, and you both get to move on. I think he's staying, because he feels like you still care in your total anger/distaste for him. Something about how frustrated you get still makes him feel like you care... so, start being awesome. Make-up. Hair. Dates. He'll bounce pretty fast. JoJo quote:Originally posted by beccathelion:Why He Won't Leave (physically): 9 of Swords (r)Why He Won't Leave (emotionally): 7 of Swords How You Subconsciously Feel: 5 of PentaclesBest Way to Get Him Out: Hermit (r)Overall Outcome: 6 of SwordsWell, the good news is that there is little to worry about on the emotional front. 3 out of 5 are swords and the other two are far from the heart-pangs associated with this sort of thing. So at least this is a mental issue that can be approached rationally. The 9 reversed says to me that he is just refusing to physically deal with moving because, financially and psychologically, it's more stress than he wants to handle right now. Is he going through some job drama? Or does he have some sort of job that operates on a freelance sort of basis? I feel like there's a transitory nature to most of his life and career, and his home is the one place where he doesn't want to have to deal with that. He's just refusing to move, because he's refusing to deal with the host of issues that'll come barreling at him as soon as he does. The 7 upright says sort of the same thing to me: emotionally, he just isn't dealing. Not only is he not dealing, he's actively trying to see how much/how far he get can get by ignoring what's going on around him. This card always has the sense of "getting away with something" buried in the image. I think he feels like, "Oh, hey. Made it through that break-up okay by ignoring it happened. Probably will get to live here longer if I keep doing it." Lots of denial. Lots of emotional self-deception on his part.Subconsciously you feel 5 of Pents... victimized. So maybe not so subconscious I mean, you are being taken advantage of and are starting to feel helpless. The way to get him out (and free yourself from this abyssal of bleh) is the Hermit reversed. Start acting like you don't care. Start focusing on you. Start dating again. Just keep going and actually start having fun. Bring somebody home. While he is a huge distraction both personally and domestically -- it's time to focus on Jo-Jo and Jo-Jo solely. Stop worrying about his feelings or him at all. Do what you do. The outcome... 6 of Swords. He'll get tired of being the footnote, and you both get to move on. I think he's staying, because he feels like you still care in your total anger/distaste for him. Something about how frustrated you get still makes him feel like you care... so, start being awesome. Make-up. Hair. Dates. He'll bounce pretty fast. Ha Ha. Thank you for that. It's pretty right on except for I have been going out. Unfortunately, he's shown up where I've been. He's in the marines so his job is stable.I just talked to my landlord and he has removed him from the lease. I just sent him a text telling him that he must be out by this weekend or I'm calling the police. Stick a fork in me - I'm done!beccathelion quote:Originally posted by JoJo: Ha Ha. Thank you for that. It's pretty right on except for I have been going out. Unfortunately, he's shown up where I've been. He's in the marines so his job is stable.I just talked to my landlord and he has removed him from the lease. I just sent him a text telling him that he must be out by this weekend or I'm calling the police. Stick a fork in me - I'm done!Hahaha, Marines. I guess I blew up on that one. I'm glad you've been going out, and I'm glad you got him off the lease. Best of luck!! Moonfishhis Saturn conjuncting your North node stuck out to me. The Saturn person could be a burden to the Node person's chosen path. There's some heavy karma and lessons to be learned with this aspect. It can be great for long lasting relationships, otherwise the Node person just feels stuck. Also, your Sun-Mercury squares his Moon (if the birthtime is accurate). You may see the way he handles things as childish. What he wants from you emotionally slowly becomes irriating to you. Finally, his Venus-Mercury opposite your Neptune. He's lost in the fantasy that you are his ideal woman. No matter what you do or say it's hard for him to come to the realization that the relationship is over. JoJo quote:Originally posted by Moonfish:his Saturn conjuncting your North node stuck out to me. The Saturn person could be a burden to the Node person's chosen path. There's some heavy karma and lessons to be learned with this aspect. It can be great for long lasting relationships, otherwise the Node person just feels stuck. Also, your Sun-Mercury squares his Moon (if the birthtime is accurate). You may see the way he handles things as childish. What he wants from you emotionally slowly becomes irriating to you. Finally, his Venus-Mercury opposite your Neptune. He's lost in the fantasy that you are his ideal woman. No matter what you do or say it's hard for him to come to the realization that the relationship is over. This is spot on. So there's no way he's going easily, huh?LeocassandraHis north node conjunct your Sun... he likes you(:P) and sees your as some kind of mentor He feels like a better person when he is with you JoJo quote:Originally posted by Leocassandra:His north node conjunct your Sun... he likes you(:P) and sees your as some kind of mentor He feels like a better person when he is with you Sad but true... he seems to have no self value. Always said the only thing he's good at is taking care of me. The problem is... I don't want or need to be taken care of. LOLLeocassandraTaking care you say...hmm his Chiron(wound, healer) conjunct your Venus...KarkaQueenWonder how he went -- nuts?JoJo quote:Originally posted by KarkaQueen:Wonder how he went -- nuts?He turned into a stalker and I had to get a restraining order. Other than a couple attempts at contacting me and showing up at places he knows where I frequent, he's left me alone. That having been said, who knows if he's watching me from some place where I can't see him.
I'm so sorry you have to go through this.
quote:Originally posted by beccathelion:I mean, I can't read natal charts, but having gone through something of a similar situation if he isn't on the lease/deed... throw his stuff outside and change the locks. If that still doesn't work, just call the cops. He sounds like he isn't going to leave and that words aren't working. Time for action I'm so sorry you have to go through this.
Thank you, but he is on the lease and he's not threatening me. In fact, it's quite the opposite, he's still trying to do everything for me. I'm to the point now where I actually hate him. It sucks.
quote:Originally posted by JoJo: Thank you, but he is on the lease and he's not threatening me. In fact, it's quite the opposite, he's still trying to do everything for me. I'm to the point now where I actually hate him. It sucks.
I'm so sorry, dude. That's the worst. That was how my ex-boyfriend was too. I finally got him out, but he still came by every day after work, because he "wanted to see me," even after I basically told him to drop dead. I finally moved to 3000 miles away for work, and that fixed it. Such a crap situation.
What makes people do that?
quote:Originally posted by JoJo:It's awful. I mean, if someone told me to my face they didn't want me anywhere near them, you wouldn't see me again!What makes people do that?
Beats the hell out of me. He was a Gem Sun/Aries Moon/Leo Asc -- he just wanted what he wanted I guess. I mean, if it helps at all, I could do a 5 card tarot reading for you on how to maybe get him out? Or a Celtic cross? I have a pretty decent track record on here (no one has publicly berated me for inaccuracy or stupidity yet :s )
How You Subconsciously Feel: 5 of PentaclesBest Way to Get Him Out: Hermit (r)
Overall Outcome: 6 of Swords
Well, the good news is that there is little to worry about on the emotional front. 3 out of 5 are swords and the other two are far from the heart-pangs associated with this sort of thing. So at least this is a mental issue that can be approached rationally.
The 9 reversed says to me that he is just refusing to physically deal with moving because, financially and psychologically, it's more stress than he wants to handle right now. Is he going through some job drama? Or does he have some sort of job that operates on a freelance sort of basis? I feel like there's a transitory nature to most of his life and career, and his home is the one place where he doesn't want to have to deal with that. He's just refusing to move, because he's refusing to deal with the host of issues that'll come barreling at him as soon as he does.
The 7 upright says sort of the same thing to me: emotionally, he just isn't dealing. Not only is he not dealing, he's actively trying to see how much/how far he get can get by ignoring what's going on around him. This card always has the sense of "getting away with something" buried in the image. I think he feels like, "Oh, hey. Made it through that break-up okay by ignoring it happened. Probably will get to live here longer if I keep doing it." Lots of denial. Lots of emotional self-deception on his part.
Subconsciously you feel 5 of Pents... victimized. So maybe not so subconscious I mean, you are being taken advantage of and are starting to feel helpless. The way to get him out (and free yourself from this abyssal of bleh) is the Hermit reversed. Start acting like you don't care. Start focusing on you. Start dating again. Just keep going and actually start having fun. Bring somebody home. While he is a huge distraction both personally and domestically -- it's time to focus on Jo-Jo and Jo-Jo solely. Stop worrying about his feelings or him at all. Do what you do.
The outcome... 6 of Swords. He'll get tired of being the footnote, and you both get to move on. I think he's staying, because he feels like you still care in your total anger/distaste for him. Something about how frustrated you get still makes him feel like you care... so, start being awesome. Make-up. Hair. Dates. He'll bounce pretty fast.
quote:Originally posted by beccathelion:Why He Won't Leave (physically): 9 of Swords (r)Why He Won't Leave (emotionally): 7 of Swords How You Subconsciously Feel: 5 of PentaclesBest Way to Get Him Out: Hermit (r)Overall Outcome: 6 of SwordsWell, the good news is that there is little to worry about on the emotional front. 3 out of 5 are swords and the other two are far from the heart-pangs associated with this sort of thing. So at least this is a mental issue that can be approached rationally. The 9 reversed says to me that he is just refusing to physically deal with moving because, financially and psychologically, it's more stress than he wants to handle right now. Is he going through some job drama? Or does he have some sort of job that operates on a freelance sort of basis? I feel like there's a transitory nature to most of his life and career, and his home is the one place where he doesn't want to have to deal with that. He's just refusing to move, because he's refusing to deal with the host of issues that'll come barreling at him as soon as he does. The 7 upright says sort of the same thing to me: emotionally, he just isn't dealing. Not only is he not dealing, he's actively trying to see how much/how far he get can get by ignoring what's going on around him. This card always has the sense of "getting away with something" buried in the image. I think he feels like, "Oh, hey. Made it through that break-up okay by ignoring it happened. Probably will get to live here longer if I keep doing it." Lots of denial. Lots of emotional self-deception on his part.Subconsciously you feel 5 of Pents... victimized. So maybe not so subconscious I mean, you are being taken advantage of and are starting to feel helpless. The way to get him out (and free yourself from this abyssal of bleh) is the Hermit reversed. Start acting like you don't care. Start focusing on you. Start dating again. Just keep going and actually start having fun. Bring somebody home. While he is a huge distraction both personally and domestically -- it's time to focus on Jo-Jo and Jo-Jo solely. Stop worrying about his feelings or him at all. Do what you do. The outcome... 6 of Swords. He'll get tired of being the footnote, and you both get to move on. I think he's staying, because he feels like you still care in your total anger/distaste for him. Something about how frustrated you get still makes him feel like you care... so, start being awesome. Make-up. Hair. Dates. He'll bounce pretty fast.
Ha Ha. Thank you for that. It's pretty right on except for I have been going out. Unfortunately, he's shown up where I've been. He's in the marines so his job is stable.
I just talked to my landlord and he has removed him from the lease. I just sent him a text telling him that he must be out by this weekend or I'm calling the police. Stick a fork in me - I'm done!
quote:Originally posted by JoJo: Ha Ha. Thank you for that. It's pretty right on except for I have been going out. Unfortunately, he's shown up where I've been. He's in the marines so his job is stable.I just talked to my landlord and he has removed him from the lease. I just sent him a text telling him that he must be out by this weekend or I'm calling the police. Stick a fork in me - I'm done!
Hahaha, Marines. I guess I blew up on that one. I'm glad you've been going out, and I'm glad you got him off the lease. Best of luck!!
Also, your Sun-Mercury squares his Moon (if the birthtime is accurate). You may see the way he handles things as childish. What he wants from you emotionally slowly becomes irriating to you.
Finally, his Venus-Mercury opposite your Neptune. He's lost in the fantasy that you are his ideal woman. No matter what you do or say it's hard for him to come to the realization that the relationship is over.
quote:Originally posted by Moonfish:his Saturn conjuncting your North node stuck out to me. The Saturn person could be a burden to the Node person's chosen path. There's some heavy karma and lessons to be learned with this aspect. It can be great for long lasting relationships, otherwise the Node person just feels stuck. Also, your Sun-Mercury squares his Moon (if the birthtime is accurate). You may see the way he handles things as childish. What he wants from you emotionally slowly becomes irriating to you. Finally, his Venus-Mercury opposite your Neptune. He's lost in the fantasy that you are his ideal woman. No matter what you do or say it's hard for him to come to the realization that the relationship is over.
This is spot on. So there's no way he's going easily, huh?
quote:Originally posted by Leocassandra:His north node conjunct your Sun... he likes you(:P) and sees your as some kind of mentor He feels like a better person when he is with you
Sad but true... he seems to have no self value. Always said the only thing he's good at is taking care of me. The problem is... I don't want or need to be taken care of. LOL
quote:Originally posted by KarkaQueen:Wonder how he went -- nuts?
He turned into a stalker and I had to get a restraining order. Other than a couple attempts at contacting me and showing up at places he knows where I frequent, he's left me alone. That having been said, who knows if he's watching me from some place where I can't see him.
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