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T O P I C R E V I E Wbonadea33Hello IQ and all other who know about Black Magic and that some people can be damned from other people.This young man with 17 years has damned his girlfriend. All he told her happened after two years. After that the same came to him back: he has bad luck in relationships. He wrote in Esoteric Forum (no Astrology) to apologize himself because of that, what he has done. I don't believe really that somebody can be damned in this life. Maybe it comes from the Past life? I had Astrology magazine some years ago where Astrologer writes how and from whom famous people were damned (aspects in the Natal Charts).There are some Astrologers they write about Black Magic in Natal Chart, but there are no aspects. As I do believe 50:50 in that, I would like to hear your opinion.Natal Chart from the young man: (I have asked him for data's per PM). Thank you for comments.Bobbiebonadea33First of all, he has nice Venus in trine with Mars. This aspect is not the best for some good relationship (the source from Astrology magazine about Greta Garbo and Elizabeth I, English Queen, not married - they have that aspect)Second he has Chiron in 7th:"There may be painful problems with marriage partners, business partners, or close friends, which lead to new learning and knowledge which can be used to help others by bringing out their fullest potential, such as through counselling".He must be very charming man with ASC Scorpio and Venus in the 1st. What means his Pluto, ruler of ASC in 12th house?He also likes adventures with the Moon in Aries, in 5th (hot Moon).My opinion is that the Moon trine Saturn will bring him luck in older age. B.GlaucusHis Sun square Moon can indicate significant relationship challengesSun is said to be the archetypal male and Moon is said to be the archetypal femaleIt could indicate that at the time of birth, the father and mother didn't get along and so that gets deeply engrained in him that it effects relationshipsfuthermore, Juno (major asteroid of relationships) is conjunct his Sun and square the Moon putting more emphasis on relationshipsMoon is conjunct the north Lunar Node in 5th, and so it's a strong emphasis on emotional,female associations,connections in the area of romance,but with Sun squaring it, there are challenges. Sun squaring the Lunar Nodes in 5th and 11th houses can indicate significant karmic challenges,lessons involving giving and receiving love as well as romances and friendships.His Ascendant happens to be aligned with the fixed star, Unukalhai which is the alpha Serpentis star. It has a bad reputation. Problems with the opposite sex is one of thing that is associated with that Star. Ptolemy assigned Mars/Saturn influence to it. Both Mars and Saturn are known as the traditional maleficis, and so Unukalhai was known as being bad news. On the upside, Unukalhai can be viewed as a star of healing and wisdom based on the symbolism of the serpent. ------------------Raymond Andrews,President,Executive Director of Developmental Neurodiversity AssociationSupporting the Neurodiversity MovementA Different Mind Is Not A Deficient Mind.http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=tsGlaucusOn a hunch, I checked to see if Transneptunian Dwarf Planet Eris is strong in his chart.His Eris is in 15'31 Ariesconjunct/oppose Lunar Nodes in 16'18 Aries/Libraconjunct Moon in 18'31 Ariessquare Sun in 16'16 Capricornsquare Mercury in 12'54 Capricornsquare Juno in 13'56 CapricornHe does have a strong Eris influenceThis suggests that there is diversity,equality matters, discord,controversy that factor in his relationships.as a transneptunian dwarf planet like Pluto, it involves evolutionary intensified lessons and experiences as well as nonconformity.He is also strong in transneptunian dwarf planet candidates suggesting more emphasis on evolutionary intensified lessons and experiences as well as nonconformityHis Quaoar is in 21'55 ScorpioHis Ixion is in 21'17 Scorpiothat's conjunct/oppose his Ascendant/Descendant in 21'23 Scorpio/TaurusThe Ixion one is only 6 minutes of arc, and so that has to be a very dominant energy in him.Quaoar is named after the Native American Tongva Tribe Creation God who said to create through song and dance. It said to be about inspirational creativity. It could be the misuse of that too.Ixion is named after the Lapith King who was the first murderer in Greek mythology. He killed his father-in-law to avoid a dowry. Nobody on Earth would purify for his crime. Zeus agreed to purify Ixion. Ixion showed lack of gratitude and betrayed Zeus' in regards to host-guest relationship by coming onto Hera sexually. Zeus tested Ixion by making a fake Hera out of a cloud named Nephele. Ixion had sex with it. Then later on he bragged about it. Zeus had him bound to a fiery wheel in Tartarus (where souls get punished in the Underworld). From Ixion's union with Nephele resulted Centaurus who mated with a mare and the Centaurs resulted. Therefore,Ixion is known as the grandfather of the centaurs. The object, Ixion can be about second chances, matters involving gratitude/ingratitude, host-guest relationship, the karmic wheel,and lust.As a plutino (2:3 orbital resonance with Neptune like Pluto), it's very similar to Pluto astronomically and so it should be very similar to it astrologically in regards to death,transformation,intensity,and sex. ------------------Raymond Andrews,President,Executive Director of Developmental Neurodiversity AssociationSupporting the Neurodiversity MovementA Different Mind Is Not A Deficient Mind. http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=ts bonadea33Hi Glaucus, Thank you very much for so good explanation.Where from do you have all this knowledge? I am scared about all you write, even if I don't know this young man. That means, there is nothing from that what he told to his girlfriend: damned her (she probably left him then). There must be something good: good Venus, ruler of his 7th in trine with Mars in 5th (for me that is marriage because of love); ruler of his Ascendant, Pluto has only soft aspects, even in 12th house. I don't want to scare him. I like to help people in the Forum, if I can. I am only afraid, when I see ruler of 8th, Mercury in square with Mars in 5th!You could be the teacher for (higher) Astrology, what is a bit tooo much for me.Wl, Bobbiebonadea33Glaucus,I wrote him my opinion and he told me that is almost all right, I wrote (my own opinion). He was left twice from his partner, suddenly without explanation. Now, I have asked, what kind of the partner? There is no answer. That means, he is gay. How can be that seen in his Chart?Regards,BobbieGlaucusshrugsHow do you know that he's gay from not responding to you?------------------Raymond Andrews,President,Executive Director of Developmental Neurodiversity AssociationSupporting the Neurodiversity MovementA Different Mind Is Not A Deficient Mind.http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=tsbonadea33Hi Glaucus,In German language when somebody says: Partner is male;Partnerin is female. Here I think that he thinks: he became gay because of that girl. Is that possible, I am not sure. Somebody is born gay or is not. I am not specialist on that area. Other thing is that there is always feedback, after second mail. Until now (I am doing something for me, on PC) is nothing! He wrote that “his last PARTNER left him at once, without any explanation”. In fact from that reason he is very unlucky.In German and French there is clear, who is male and who is female (writing and talking).I don't believe he is going to write me back. My question to him after responding to me was clear: how come, partner? What that means?I am very curious, what is going on here.Regards, Bobbiebonadea33Hi Glaucus,This man wrote to me today that he is homosexual. There was my Thread "Do you believe in the course" and nobody has answered three days. I left the Forum and then came one female member and wrote, she believes in that and she does that. After all there was long conversation contra, came one female again and told about a man from Nigeria, working in Germany who damned all the company because they have humiliated him every single day. He did it with Caribbean chain and left the company.After that more people became serious sick, some had accidents and so on. This time this man over there wrote that he damned one girl and after two years all that happened. Now, he is very unlucky and thinks, all is because of what he has done with 17 years. Bobbiep.s. Is there some Fixed star for the course?
This young man with 17 years has damned his girlfriend. All he told her happened after two years. After that the same came to him back: he has bad luck in relationships. He wrote in Esoteric Forum (no Astrology) to apologize himself because of that, what he has done. I don't believe really that somebody can be damned in this life. Maybe it comes from the Past life? I had Astrology magazine some years ago where Astrologer writes how and from whom famous people were damned (aspects in the Natal Charts).There are some Astrologers they write about Black Magic in Natal Chart, but there are no aspects.
As I do believe 50:50 in that, I would like to hear your opinion.
Natal Chart from the young man: (I have asked him for data's per PM).
Thank you for comments.
Bobbie
Second he has Chiron in 7th:"There may be painful problems with marriage partners, business partners, or close friends, which lead to new learning and knowledge which can be used to help others by bringing out their fullest potential, such as through counselling".
He must be very charming man with ASC Scorpio and Venus in the 1st. What means his Pluto, ruler of ASC in 12th house?
He also likes adventures with the Moon in Aries, in 5th (hot Moon).
My opinion is that the Moon trine Saturn will bring him luck in older age.
B.
Sun is said to be the archetypal male and Moon is said to be the archetypal female
It could indicate that at the time of birth, the father and mother didn't get along and so that gets deeply engrained in him that it effects relationships
futhermore, Juno (major asteroid of relationships) is conjunct his Sun and square the Moon putting more emphasis on relationships
Moon is conjunct the north Lunar Node in 5th, and so it's a strong emphasis on emotional,female associations,connections in the area of romance,but with Sun squaring it, there are challenges. Sun squaring the Lunar Nodes in 5th and 11th houses can indicate significant karmic challenges,lessons involving giving and receiving love as well as romances and friendships.
His Ascendant happens to be aligned with the fixed star, Unukalhai which is the alpha Serpentis star. It has a bad reputation. Problems with the opposite sex is one of thing that is associated with that Star. Ptolemy assigned Mars/Saturn influence to it. Both Mars and Saturn are known as the traditional maleficis, and so Unukalhai was known as being bad news. On the upside, Unukalhai can be viewed as a star of healing and wisdom based on the symbolism of the serpent.
------------------Raymond Andrews,President,Executive Director of Developmental Neurodiversity AssociationSupporting the Neurodiversity Movement
A Different Mind Is Not A Deficient Mind.http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=ts
His Eris is in 15'31 Ariesconjunct/oppose Lunar Nodes in 16'18 Aries/Libraconjunct Moon in 18'31 Ariessquare Sun in 16'16 Capricornsquare Mercury in 12'54 Capricornsquare Juno in 13'56 Capricorn
He does have a strong Eris influence
This suggests that there is diversity,equality matters, discord,controversy that factor in his relationships.
as a transneptunian dwarf planet like Pluto, it involves evolutionary intensified lessons and experiences as well as nonconformity.
He is also strong in transneptunian dwarf planet candidates suggesting more emphasis on evolutionary intensified lessons and experiences as well as nonconformity
His Quaoar is in 21'55 ScorpioHis Ixion is in 21'17 Scorpio
that's conjunct/oppose his Ascendant/Descendant in 21'23 Scorpio/Taurus
The Ixion one is only 6 minutes of arc, and so that has to be a very dominant energy in him.
Quaoar is named after the Native American Tongva Tribe Creation God who said to create through song and dance. It said to be about inspirational creativity. It could be the misuse of that too.
Ixion is named after the Lapith King who was the first murderer in Greek mythology. He killed his father-in-law to avoid a dowry. Nobody on Earth would purify for his crime. Zeus agreed to purify Ixion. Ixion showed lack of gratitude and betrayed Zeus' in regards to host-guest relationship by coming onto Hera sexually. Zeus tested Ixion by making a fake Hera out of a cloud named Nephele. Ixion had sex with it. Then later on he bragged about it. Zeus had him bound to a fiery wheel in Tartarus (where souls get punished in the Underworld). From Ixion's union with Nephele resulted Centaurus who mated with a mare and the Centaurs resulted. Therefore,Ixion is known as the grandfather of the centaurs. The object, Ixion can be about second chances, matters involving gratitude/ingratitude, host-guest relationship, the karmic wheel,and lust.
As a plutino (2:3 orbital resonance with Neptune like Pluto), it's very similar to Pluto astronomically and so it should be very similar to it astrologically in regards to death,transformation,intensity,and sex.
A Different Mind Is Not A Deficient Mind. http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=ts
Thank you very much for so good explanation.
Where from do you have all this knowledge? I am scared about all you write, even if I don't know this young man. That means, there is nothing from that what he told to his girlfriend: damned her (she probably left him then).
There must be something good: good Venus, ruler of his 7th in trine with Mars in 5th (for me that is marriage because of love); ruler of his Ascendant, Pluto has only soft aspects, even in 12th house.
I don't want to scare him. I like to help people in the Forum, if I can. I am only afraid, when I see ruler of 8th, Mercury in square with Mars in 5th!
You could be the teacher for (higher) Astrology, what is a bit tooo much for me.
Wl, Bobbie
I wrote him my opinion and he told me that is almost all right, I wrote (my own opinion). He was left twice from his partner, suddenly without explanation. Now, I have asked, what kind of the partner? There is no answer. That means, he is gay. How can be that seen in his Chart?
Regards,Bobbie
How do you know that he's gay from not responding to you?
In German language when somebody says: Partner is male;Partnerin is female.
Here I think that he thinks: he became gay because of that girl. Is that possible, I am not sure. Somebody is born gay or is not. I am not specialist on that area. Other thing is that there is always feedback, after second mail. Until now (I am doing something for me, on PC) is nothing!
He wrote that “his last PARTNER left him at once, without any explanation”. In fact from that reason he is very unlucky.
In German and French there is clear, who is male and who is female (writing and talking).
I don't believe he is going to write me back. My question to him after responding to me was clear: how come, partner? What that means?
I am very curious, what is going on here.
Regards, Bobbie
This man wrote to me today that he is homosexual.
There was my Thread "Do you believe in the course" and nobody has answered three days. I left the Forum and then came one female member and wrote, she believes in that and she does that. After all there was long conversation contra, came one female again and told about a man from Nigeria, working in Germany who damned all the company because they have humiliated him every single day. He did it with Caribbean chain and left the company.After that more people became serious sick, some had accidents and so on.
This time this man over there wrote that he damned one girl and after two years all that happened. Now, he is very unlucky and thinks, all is because of what he has done with 17 years.
p.s. Is there some Fixed star for the course?
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