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T O P I C R E V I E WSaggy7.RandallBump!Hikaru29 quote:would you break up a relationship/friendship over a fear of what might happen in the future and/or astrological prognosis which might not sound very promising.NO, don't ever do that. Make your decisions based on how YOU feel, what your intuition tells you, and what's it really like in reality. Charts show you potential & challenges but it doesn't mean everything will manifest in the said manner. Haven't you heard of people with Sun conj Venus that end up hating each other? Or Uranus square couples that lasted decades? It may also be a case where some find the energies too overwhelming to bear, yet some may find it bearable. GrahamIf the Davison Chart reveals the purpose of a relationship, would it not make sense to check if that purpose has been achieved before finally deciding to end the relationship?Saggy7.Saggy7.athenaiaYes, I would continue to see romantic potential through even if the synastry/composite was not classically good, although I would have a few reservations. When you get to a certain age, you've probably accumulated enough experience with different astrological energies that you begin to sense patterns. Like, "oh I really get along with people who have Moon in [Purple]", or "wow, I have consistently gotten into uncomfortable dynamics with people who have Venus in [Green]. I think I am going to avoid those in the future..." Then I think almost everyone can agree that tight Chiron aspects in synastry/the composite are pretty uncomfortable things more often than not. They can either be cathartic/healing or just nightmarish, so it's up to the native to feel whether they're okay with that or not.. So basically unless something was a blatant red flag to me based on experience, I would just see something through. It will either work or be another astrological learning experience to add to the repertoire. AriesLilithErased the post sorry!Stoika7 quote:Originally posted by Saggy7: Thanks Hikaru. What if composite indicates separation in a few months? Just wait it out ?Im having a hard time dealing and being myself thinking it might just poof..disappear..Hiraku is completely right!Just use atsrology to understand how YOU relate those energies and dynamics to your actual situation and see how it plays out in your reality and awareness! Once you understand how those energies play out and recognize those belonging to you, coming from yourself, you can keep those under control, improve it, channel it all towards a better outcome... then, there are other energies and events and people that are not under our control and we have to accept it.If I had read the chart between my husband and me, I would have endured with him not even one day, lol !Well, we had strong committment aspects (Composite Saturn 4th house conjunct Moon, NN and ASC) and comp. stellium... but also a lot of harsh aspects and not quite romantic ones (comp Uranus square Mercury and Mars, comp Mars opp Sun and Mercury, comp Chiron squares to the stellium, comp Saturn square Venus and Sun)... in fact, we never agreed about anything, lol, and it's been a constant fight! But we did love each other like family, with Uranus 10th house square Sun, and ASC square MC, and all those negative aspects, I would have said we would not last more than a couple of years... we ended up living in the same house for 19 years :-) Hikaru29 quote:Originally posted by Saggy7: Thanks Hikaru. What if composite indicates separation in a few months? Just wait it out ?Im having a hard time dealing and being myself thinking it might just poof..disappear..Astrology aside, how do you feel about him right now? Do you feel like continuing? If yes, wait it out! But don't be like a sitting duck. Take advantage of the r/s potential and work on the difficulties.I gathered in your other thread that things are not looking good with the 2nd guy as you said you've walked away several times. There must be a reason why you did so, if not purely due to your impulsive emotional nature (Moon/Mars on ASC)? Look at the reality rather than the charts as they reflect our realities, not the other way around. And while we can't do anything to our charts, we certainly can do something to our reality.Why don't you post your Davison like what Graham suggested? It describes the r/s physical reality. Saggy7.Ami AnneThe chart will play out. One has to understand the entire chart. However, it will play out and no "willpower" or "spiritual evolution" will change that fact.------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/Graham quote:Originally posted by Saggy7: Graham, would you be able to read the purpose of a relationship if I post a Davison chart ?The Davison Chart is read in exactly the same way as any other natal chart. ... So, the purpose is "to make the Sun shine".This Davison Chart has a Chiron-wounded Sun in Gemini/3rd house of communication. ... In CHIRON - Healing Body & Soul, Martin Lass describes the gemini wound as "a deep-seated FEELING of being unable to communicate with others, verbally inept, unable to fit in socially, unintelligent, and/or unable to see the connections between one thing and the next. The hidden feelings of being uneducated or stupid compared to others. The feeling of not being up with the times."So ... this relationship/Sun will shine when both partners confront those fears/feelings - which involves talking openly about them with each other.Are you walking away from the relationship AFTER that confrontation/talking has been done? Or, is there still some unfinished business that will simply resurface in your next relationship if you fail to deal with it in this one?_________________________________________________________ quote:The chart will play out. One has to understand the entire chart. However, it will play out and no "willpower" or "spiritual evolution" will change that fact.With that in mind ... how has the Moon-Chiron-Pluto Thor's Hammer (in the Davison Chart) played out in this relationship? Saggy7.Moonbeth quote:Originally posted by Hikaru29: NO, don't ever do that. Make your decisions based on how YOU feel, what your intuition tells you, and what's it really like in reality. Charts show you potential & challenges but it doesn't mean everything will manifest in the said manner. Haven't you heard of people with Sun conj Venus that end up hating each other? Or Uranus square couples that lasted decades? It may also be a case where some find the energies too overwhelming to bear, yet some may find it bearable. RandallBump!RandallBump!RandallBump!RandallBump!Ami AnneNever. If there is a big warning sign in the chart, I heed it------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/FireAndEarthI don't believe in letting astrology dictate your life completely. RandallBump!
quote:would you break up a relationship/friendship over a fear of what might happen in the future and/or astrological prognosis which might not sound very promising.
NO, don't ever do that. Make your decisions based on how YOU feel, what your intuition tells you, and what's it really like in reality.
Charts show you potential & challenges but it doesn't mean everything will manifest in the said manner. Haven't you heard of people with Sun conj Venus that end up hating each other? Or Uranus square couples that lasted decades? It may also be a case where some find the energies too overwhelming to bear, yet some may find it bearable.
When you get to a certain age, you've probably accumulated enough experience with different astrological energies that you begin to sense patterns.
Like, "oh I really get along with people who have Moon in [Purple]", or "wow, I have consistently gotten into uncomfortable dynamics with people who have Venus in [Green]. I think I am going to avoid those in the future..."
Then I think almost everyone can agree that tight Chiron aspects in synastry/the composite are pretty uncomfortable things more often than not. They can either be cathartic/healing or just nightmarish, so it's up to the native to feel whether they're okay with that or not..
So basically unless something was a blatant red flag to me based on experience, I would just see something through. It will either work or be another astrological learning experience to add to the repertoire.
quote:Originally posted by Saggy7: Thanks Hikaru. What if composite indicates separation in a few months? Just wait it out ?Im having a hard time dealing and being myself thinking it might just poof..disappear..
Hiraku is completely right!Just use atsrology to understand how YOU relate those energies and dynamics to your actual situation and see how it plays out in your reality and awareness! Once you understand how those energies play out and recognize those belonging to you, coming from yourself, you can keep those under control, improve it, channel it all towards a better outcome... then, there are other energies and events and people that are not under our control and we have to accept it.If I had read the chart between my husband and me, I would have endured with him not even one day, lol !Well, we had strong committment aspects (Composite Saturn 4th house conjunct Moon, NN and ASC) and comp. stellium... but also a lot of harsh aspects and not quite romantic ones (comp Uranus square Mercury and Mars, comp Mars opp Sun and Mercury, comp Chiron squares to the stellium, comp Saturn square Venus and Sun)... in fact, we never agreed about anything, lol, and it's been a constant fight! But we did love each other like family, with Uranus 10th house square Sun, and ASC square MC, and all those negative aspects, I would have said we would not last more than a couple of years... we ended up living in the same house for 19 years :-)
Astrology aside, how do you feel about him right now? Do you feel like continuing? If yes, wait it out! But don't be like a sitting duck. Take advantage of the r/s potential and work on the difficulties.
I gathered in your other thread that things are not looking good with the 2nd guy as you said you've walked away several times. There must be a reason why you did so, if not purely due to your impulsive emotional nature (Moon/Mars on ASC)?
Look at the reality rather than the charts as they reflect our realities, not the other way around. And while we can't do anything to our charts, we certainly can do something to our reality.
Why don't you post your Davison like what Graham suggested? It describes the r/s physical reality.
------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE.
http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
quote:Originally posted by Saggy7: Graham, would you be able to read the purpose of a relationship if I post a Davison chart ?
This Davison Chart has a Chiron-wounded Sun in Gemini/3rd house of communication. ... In CHIRON - Healing Body & Soul, Martin Lass describes the gemini wound as "a deep-seated FEELING of being unable to communicate with others, verbally inept, unable to fit in socially, unintelligent, and/or unable to see the connections between one thing and the next. The hidden feelings of being uneducated or stupid compared to others. The feeling of not being up with the times."
So ... this relationship/Sun will shine when both partners confront those fears/feelings - which involves talking openly about them with each other.
Are you walking away from the relationship AFTER that confrontation/talking has been done? Or, is there still some unfinished business that will simply resurface in your next relationship if you fail to deal with it in this one?_________________________________________________________
quote:The chart will play out. One has to understand the entire chart. However, it will play out and no "willpower" or "spiritual evolution" will change that fact.
quote:Originally posted by Hikaru29: NO, don't ever do that. Make your decisions based on how YOU feel, what your intuition tells you, and what's it really like in reality. Charts show you potential & challenges but it doesn't mean everything will manifest in the said manner. Haven't you heard of people with Sun conj Venus that end up hating each other? Or Uranus square couples that lasted decades? It may also be a case where some find the energies too overwhelming to bear, yet some may find it bearable.
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