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T O P I C R E V I E WRosalindOk... It seems there is a problem with me because otherwise I cannot explain this myself. Why people can't just accept me as I am? All of the people I have considered my friends were judging me, calling me an idealistic and tried to change me. I am that bad? Why this bad luck with finding real friends?My 11th house is empty with Virgo on cusp. Ami AnneIf the 11th house is empty, it is considered that you already mastered the affairs of that house so it is not an issue for you. The occupied houses are the ones which embody our issues.------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personalityJung I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine. Song of Solomen He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city ProverbsAmi AnneI will try to look at house rulers ,later They show spheres of your life :what is important :what is of lesser importance.------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personalityJung I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine. Song of Solomen He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city ProverbsRosalind quote:Originally posted by Ami Anne:If the 11th house is empty, it is considered that you already mastered the affairs of that house so it is not an issue for you. The occupied houses are the ones which embody our issues.Thanks Ami. Then, should I stop seeking friends?Ami Anne quote:Originally posted by Rosalind: Thanks Ami. Then, should I stop seeking friends?That seems radical,Man ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personalityJung I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine. Song of Solomen He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city ProverbsRosalind quote:Originally posted by Ami Anne: That seems radical,Man Lol. No man, I'm a girl.The ruler of 11th house is in 9th house. What is that mean? Friends from other countries?Benedict Moon*The not-so-evolved-side of Virgo is judgement, AND mercury, the ruler of the 11th house is squared by Pluto in your chart. Merc/Pluto is one of the 'mad scientist' aspects, so perhaps you feel like your friends have you under a microscope....especially with the hard aspect. With the trine from Saturn, you may also percieve them to take a sober attitude to your ideas. Rosalind quote:Originally posted by Benedict Moon*:The not-so-evolved-side of Virgo is judgement, AND mercury, the ruler of the 11th house is squared by Pluto in your chart. Merc/Pluto is one of the 'mad scientist' aspects, so perhaps you feel like your friends have you under a microscope....especially with the hard aspect. With the trine from Saturn, you may also percieve them to take a sober attitude to your ideas. Yes, that is true, but my question is: how do I stop this situation? I can't stand it anymore.LonakeYou also have Venus sq Saturn, Venus ruling your 7th house of others, so you could be drawn to these people via low self esteem. Taurus is solid, artsy, earthy, dependable people, so try to gear yourself toward positive expressions of that sign, try to take a cue from them and indulge in foods and beautiful things that make you feel great, then your sensuality will attract them and they will be good dependable partners/friends.Your h11 cusp ruler is Mercury which is tightly square to Pluto, so the nitpicking is really out of cruelty and nothing more, either played out by you or others or back and forth. Don't even deal with it, use it to have penetrating insight into others and be able to suss out negative people who would try to harm you in any way, and as an offense you can be nitpickingly cruel to them at first sight of it, just go on the offensive the second you smell it on them that they have ill will toward you and that will work to get em to back down, again, I think they may be feeding on your low self esteem, so just show em that you have what they have too so that you two are on equal ground, no one's one up on anyone else.Rosalind quote:Originally posted by Lonake:You also have Venus sq Saturn, Venus ruling your 7th house of others, so you could be drawn to these people via low self esteem. Taurus is solid, artsy, earthy, dependable people, so try to gear yourself toward positive expressions of that sign, try to take a cue from them and indulge in foods and beautiful things that make you feel great, then your sensuality will attract them and they will be good dependable partners/friends.Your h11 cusp ruler is Mercury which is tightly square to Pluto, so the nitpicking is really out of cruelty and nothing more, either played out by you or others or back and forth. Don't even deal with it, use it to have penetrating insight into others and be able to suss out negative people who would try to harm you in any way, and as an offense you can be nitpickingly cruel to them at first sight of it, just go on the offensive the second you smell it on them that they have ill will toward you and that will work to get em to back down, again, I think they may be feeding on your low self esteem, so just show em that you have what they have too so that you two are on equal ground, no one's one up on anyone else.But I do focus on beautiful things. I have a positive attitude. The thing is that people have great expectations about me. They want me to be cold and less emotional, to not care, to like money, to be selfish.Benedict Moon*Is this a reoccuring theme in your life? Because usually if it is than I agree that there's something within you you have to change to stop attracting these people. If its not (and it does sounds situational at the moment, from what you're saying) then maybe its time you find a new circle? People who share the same outlook and interests as you. Its really okay to outgrow people. Rosalind quote:Originally posted by Benedict Moon*:Is this a reoccuring theme in your life? Because usually if it is than I agree that there's something within you you have to change to stop attracting these people. If its not (and it does sounds situational at the moment, from what you're saying) then maybe its time you find a new circle? People who share the same outlook and interests as you. Its really okay to outgrow people. Yes it is a reoccuring. I see, there is something wrong with me. The problem I'm facing now is that I have no idea how to attract the right people.People say about me that I'm a very interesting person, inteligent, beautiful and friendly, that I fascinate them through my mind and my ideas but soon after that they simply change their minds. From a fascinating person I become an idealistic and weird person. How can this happen? Someone told me yesterday that I shouldnt believe that much in love because love is such a futile feeling that it shouldnt be felt or given such importance. That I must seek for my own good in material things and stop dreaming about friendship and love. Why do I keep attracting such people?LonakeNot sure why you care so much about what they think your life should be or what you should like, sounds kinda weird to me. You're an adult now. Question is why are you still around them if they won't accept you as is? Sounds like a self esteem problem."stop dreaming about friendship and love" what is this? haha no, I would STAY AWAY. You are around toxic people. Proceed with caution.BUT then again, your h12 ruler of self undoing is that Venus in the 10th square Saturn, that Venus can be cold and materialistic and being that way will be her downfall. Either you are that way and you're not seeing it (completely possible) or people value you when you are in some position of power and calling the shots, putting in some long hours. Then this: "Why do I keep attracting such people?" becomes, because this is how you value yourself and other people pick up on it.Rosalind quote:Originally posted by Lonake:Not sure why you care so much about what they think your life should be or what you should like, sounds kinda weird to me. You're an adult now. Question is why are you still around them if they won't accept you as is? Sounds like a self esteem problem."stop dreaming about friendship and love" what is this? haha no, I would STAY AWAY. You are around toxic people. Proceed with caution.BUT then again, your h12 ruler of self undoing is that Venus in the 10th square Saturn, that Venus can be cold and materialistic and being that way will be her downfall. Either you are that way and you're not seeing it (completely possible) or people value you when you are in some position of power and calling the shots, putting in some long hours. Then this: "Why do I keep attracting such people?" becomes, because this is how you value yourself and other people pick up on it.Now I fully understand. Thanks Lo.
My 11th house is empty with Virgo on cusp.
------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personalityJung I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine. Song of Solomen He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs
quote:Originally posted by Ami Anne:If the 11th house is empty, it is considered that you already mastered the affairs of that house so it is not an issue for you. The occupied houses are the ones which embody our issues.
Thanks Ami. Then, should I stop seeking friends?
quote:Originally posted by Rosalind: Thanks Ami. Then, should I stop seeking friends?
That seems radical,Man
quote:Originally posted by Ami Anne: That seems radical,Man
Lol. No man, I'm a girl.
The ruler of 11th house is in 9th house. What is that mean? Friends from other countries?
quote:Originally posted by Benedict Moon*:The not-so-evolved-side of Virgo is judgement, AND mercury, the ruler of the 11th house is squared by Pluto in your chart. Merc/Pluto is one of the 'mad scientist' aspects, so perhaps you feel like your friends have you under a microscope....especially with the hard aspect. With the trine from Saturn, you may also percieve them to take a sober attitude to your ideas.
Yes, that is true, but my question is: how do I stop this situation? I can't stand it anymore.
Your h11 cusp ruler is Mercury which is tightly square to Pluto, so the nitpicking is really out of cruelty and nothing more, either played out by you or others or back and forth. Don't even deal with it, use it to have penetrating insight into others and be able to suss out negative people who would try to harm you in any way, and as an offense you can be nitpickingly cruel to them at first sight of it, just go on the offensive the second you smell it on them that they have ill will toward you and that will work to get em to back down, again, I think they may be feeding on your low self esteem, so just show em that you have what they have too so that you two are on equal ground, no one's one up on anyone else.
quote:Originally posted by Lonake:You also have Venus sq Saturn, Venus ruling your 7th house of others, so you could be drawn to these people via low self esteem. Taurus is solid, artsy, earthy, dependable people, so try to gear yourself toward positive expressions of that sign, try to take a cue from them and indulge in foods and beautiful things that make you feel great, then your sensuality will attract them and they will be good dependable partners/friends.Your h11 cusp ruler is Mercury which is tightly square to Pluto, so the nitpicking is really out of cruelty and nothing more, either played out by you or others or back and forth. Don't even deal with it, use it to have penetrating insight into others and be able to suss out negative people who would try to harm you in any way, and as an offense you can be nitpickingly cruel to them at first sight of it, just go on the offensive the second you smell it on them that they have ill will toward you and that will work to get em to back down, again, I think they may be feeding on your low self esteem, so just show em that you have what they have too so that you two are on equal ground, no one's one up on anyone else.
But I do focus on beautiful things. I have a positive attitude. The thing is that people have great expectations about me. They want me to be cold and less emotional, to not care, to like money, to be selfish.
If its not (and it does sounds situational at the moment, from what you're saying) then maybe its time you find a new circle? People who share the same outlook and interests as you. Its really okay to outgrow people.
quote:Originally posted by Benedict Moon*:Is this a reoccuring theme in your life? Because usually if it is than I agree that there's something within you you have to change to stop attracting these people. If its not (and it does sounds situational at the moment, from what you're saying) then maybe its time you find a new circle? People who share the same outlook and interests as you. Its really okay to outgrow people.
Yes it is a reoccuring. I see, there is something wrong with me. The problem I'm facing now is that I have no idea how to attract the right people.People say about me that I'm a very interesting person, inteligent, beautiful and friendly, that I fascinate them through my mind and my ideas but soon after that they simply change their minds. From a fascinating person I become an idealistic and weird person. How can this happen? Someone told me yesterday that I shouldnt believe that much in love because love is such a futile feeling that it shouldnt be felt or given such importance. That I must seek for my own good in material things and stop dreaming about friendship and love. Why do I keep attracting such people?
"stop dreaming about friendship and love" what is this? haha no, I would STAY AWAY. You are around toxic people. Proceed with caution.
BUT then again, your h12 ruler of self undoing is that Venus in the 10th square Saturn, that Venus can be cold and materialistic and being that way will be her downfall. Either you are that way and you're not seeing it (completely possible) or people value you when you are in some position of power and calling the shots, putting in some long hours. Then this: "Why do I keep attracting such people?" becomes, because this is how you value yourself and other people pick up on it.
quote:Originally posted by Lonake:Not sure why you care so much about what they think your life should be or what you should like, sounds kinda weird to me. You're an adult now. Question is why are you still around them if they won't accept you as is? Sounds like a self esteem problem."stop dreaming about friendship and love" what is this? haha no, I would STAY AWAY. You are around toxic people. Proceed with caution.BUT then again, your h12 ruler of self undoing is that Venus in the 10th square Saturn, that Venus can be cold and materialistic and being that way will be her downfall. Either you are that way and you're not seeing it (completely possible) or people value you when you are in some position of power and calling the shots, putting in some long hours. Then this: "Why do I keep attracting such people?" becomes, because this is how you value yourself and other people pick up on it.
Now I fully understand. Thanks Lo.
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