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T O P I C R E V I E WElectro DGXHow would this aspect represent itself? I have this apsect, and I hear that lilith is often a trait associated with women, so here I'm wondering if its effects would be the same for a man. ------------------Aquarius Sun, Merc, Venus, Uranus, NeptuneScorpio Mars conj. Asc in First8th House Moon opposite Pluto, Trine UranusHave you caught onto the predicament I'm in yet?NovabronteAssuming its in conjunction from 1st House:Close to the Ascendant it will be far from its usual awkwardness, there will be more charm and magnetism. Within 2 degrees often full of energy, breezy and disarming.Tightly conjunct the Ascendant - warm, dynamic, natural leaders, with a good sense of verbal timing. Popular even if not entirely trusted.Further down the energy changes - Social awkwardness, insecurities about physical appearance, compensating a lot to improve (think Michael Jackson).If its from 12 House then its a different story. Very popular people and intensely seductive. Monica Belucci isFionapineappleWhat if asteroid Lilith is conjunct a male's Mars and BML is with their Mercury?Novabronteoh, I should have specified that I was talking about True Lilith ...Lets distinguish all the Liliths out there :-) and some key words...True Lilith - Black Moon Lilith (symbol h13) - 9 mths in ea signKey words: magic, animal magnetism, kundalini, creative force, tantric sex, seduction, intuition, psychic ability/healing, imagination, charisma, hypnotism, glamour, breaks down the barriers to unconsciousDark Moon Lilith - Waldemath Moon (h58) - 10 days in ea signKey words: the shadow, demons, rage, toxins, emotional pain, catharsis, madness, SM, vengence,asteroid Lilith (1181)Key words: rebellion, exile, confrontational, freedom fighter, impulsive, innovative, unconventionalFionapineappleYes this guy has asteroid Lilith conjunct his Mars, Bml,True Lilith with his Mercury,Pluto conjunction all in the 5th house house His dark moon,waldemath is on his Mc with part of fortune which I'm not quite sure how to interpret FionapineappleMy guess has been that that part of their pysche is very private but a taboo hidden pleasure too like they think ppl won't accept that part of them but the hiding makes it feel highly charged. Possible power struggle with their relationship with women either needing to control or wanting to be dominated/wants a strong partner. Let's hope he's a creative typeNovabronte quote:Originally posted by Fionapineapple:My guess has been that that part of their pysche is very private but a taboo hidden pleasure too like they think ppl won't accept that part of them but the hiding makes it feel highly charged. Possible power struggle with their relationship with women either needing to control or wanting to be dominated/wants a strong partner. Let's hope he's a creative typeYes this guy has asteroid Lilith conjunct his Mars, Bml,True Lilith with his Mercury,Pluto conjunction all in the 5th house house His dark moon,waldemath is on his Mc with part of fortune which I'm not quite sure how to interpretOh shite...I know a guy with this placement, 5th house BML ...conjunct his Moon :-(Well there are pluses and minuses of 5H placement..PROSThese guys are smoking hot :-) .. Keanu Reeves, George Cloney , HUgh Jackman, Banderas ..well, you get the picture Incredible luck, without even trying, like a very profitable marriage or lottery win or just a lucky break in professionSmooth, very smooth, brilliant networkers generally it amplifies creative abilities ...especially writing...Possible CONSFake or seeming like fake to others which may cause them not being accepted much...and misunderstoodGame players, smooth talkers , often fabulous liarsEither a black sheep in a family or having at least one child that is a lot of troubleVery suspicious of others, issues with trusting others which is problematic in relationships and friendships, so lots of very casual friends insteadgetting back to your guy and 10H .. urge for power is common with Waldemath Moon in 10th as is with True Lilith, but it my be more manipulative or maniacal, and vengeful... on the other hand depending on sign and aspects something related to his 10H may be emotionally painful for him like a nasty boss...there is also possibility if he is lets say a writer that he channels this lilith through his books by creating a nasty lilith character which may bring him fortune..10H POF is a good financial indicator for gains through career, if venus and house and sign ruler is well placed and aspected.FionapineappleOh yes u described him perfectly haha the 10th house waldemath moon and pof is in Pisces so idk what Pisces would be about in dark terms unless he's the type to take advantage of ppl while appearing as a spiritual guru since he is spiritual and wrote books. I mention that because in synastry its on my mercury and sun and I'm an empathy and caught all that lol. I could see him channeling Lilith in his song writing maybe. He used to dress like it and some of his music sounds like nine inch nails but with different lyrical style Energetically he's just a mess haha..to me. Seems together but smh no no and he has Venus in Leo square Uranus in Scorprio in his chart so he dresses very boldly/different. Used to have a dark look but now its more earthy and spiritual mystic of the way head wrapped and everything haha There's a heart in there but my goodness that Lilith energy very controlling, rebellious, sensitive to rejection, untrusting (I feel) wants full expression (his moon is in Capricorn and his Saturn is on his Sun) If channeled nicely he can be a creative powerhouse, larger than life personality, big hearted very endearing that inspires many Novabronte@ FionapineappleSounds like a Heathcliff crossed with Ghandi .. lolNevertheless, if that Uranus falls in 6th House ...hmmm... thats karma of the mind dis-ease, he might be bit messed up in his thinking, idea chasing an idea, may be prone to depression and in Scorpio it goes deeeeep etc especially if its RX...FionapineappleOh I love u lol it is in his 6th house and his Venus is in his 3rd! He has Sun square Neptune and I was thinking that's where his messy energy is coming from but figured it could be tricky for a native to really amount to something with a Pisces midheaven u will literally either sink or soar to great heights. This isn't a stupid guy, he did research and learn a lot but that ego/self-expression and sexual excess is probably karma from past lives that he literally needs to clean up nowElectro DGXThanks for the interpretation. I technically have it Parallel the Ascendant, but it sits in my first house as well. That is why I was asking ------------------Aquarius Sun, Merc, Venus, Uranus, NeptuneScorpio Mars conj. Asc in First8th House Moon opposite Pluto, Trine UranusHave you caught onto the predicament I'm in yet?Novabronte quote:Originally posted by Fionapineapple:Oh I love u lol it is in his 6th house and his Venus is in his 3rd! He has Sun square Neptune and I was thinking that's where his messy energy is coming from but figured it could be tricky for a native to really amount to something with a Pisces midheaven u will literally either sink or soar to great heights. This isn't a stupid guy, he did research and learn a lot but that ego/self-expression and sexual excess is probably karma from past lives that he literally needs to clean up nowI've not looked at Pisces midheaven in terms of sink or soar, interesting.... I think I took it literally that fish will always find a way to swim and float, dead or alive lol.... because Pisces are mutable creatures and in need or distress they'll just change direction... oh, I dont think your guy will sink at all, he sounds so beautifully complicated and charismatic... he might swim upstream but he'll get there :-) eventually ...I love you too Miss Pineapple :-DNovabronte quote:Originally posted by Electro DGX:Thanks for the interpretation. I technically have it Parallel the Ascendant, but it sits in my first house as well. That is why I was asking Can you do Jackson's moonwalk ? angel4845@novabronteI would love to get an interpretation from you at least your opinion how would you describe a male with asteroid lilith on his NorthNode in aquarius in the 12th house? also h21 in sag in the 10th house opposite there mars retrograde in the 4th house?i can do you also an interpretation as well.------------------Addicted to Self Relfection - Jupiter R in the 12th HouseFionapineapple quote:Originally posted by Novabronte: I've not looked at Pisces midheaven in terms of sink or soar, interesting... oh, I dont think your guy will sink at all, he sounds so beautifully complicated and charismatic... he might swim upstream but he'll get there :-) eventually ...I love you too Miss Pineapple :-DOh see, to sink or soar to great heights I feel is a Scorpio thing since i'm a Pisces but have a lot of scorpioHe seems like he's experiencing a lot of Scorpio things once that depth is there he's no mutable fish Novabronte quote:Originally posted by angel4845:[b]@novabronteI would love to get an interpretation from you at least your opinion how would you describe a male with asteroid lilith on his NorthNode in aquarius in the 12th house? also h21 in sag in the 10th house opposite there mars retrograde in the 4th house?i can do you also an interpretation as well.[/B]Nodes deal with life direction and balancing karmic debts. Asteroid Lilith suggests whatever the NN course, it'll be unconventional. need more info...What is the NN degree ? Where is Uranus, Sun and lord of 10th house?are there any intercepted signs?I dont use H21, I prefer H13...most astrologers use this one as it seems to be true expression of Lilith hence True Lilith.Find H13 in his chart to find out about his Lilith's nature. Mars RX ..is focusing on spiritual more than physical, sexual experiences can be less fulfilling. Sex based on deep love and a mutual spiritual experience will be more natural to him. Also as Mars rx is in 4th he is dealing with past life scenarios either to recreate situations from prior lifetimes that brought fulfillment or to find people who can symbolize those who fulfilled him in the past. Stressful situations can trigger reactions from the past. Mercury can shed more light in terms what it is related to.How does this fit ? Electro DGX quote:Originally posted by Novabronte: Can you do Jackson's moonwalk ? I tried but failed miserably lol. Often though people would notice other people staring at me, even when I don't notice myself lol. ------------------Aquarius Sun, Merc, Venus, Uranus, NeptuneScorpio Mars conj. Asc in First8th House Moon opposite Pluto, Trine UranusHave you caught onto the predicament I'm in yet?angel4845 quote:Originally posted by Novabronte: Nodes deal with life direction and balancing karmic debts. Asteroid Lilith suggests whatever the NN course, it'll be unconventional. need more info...What is the NN degree ? Where is Uranus, Sun and lord of 10th house?are there any intercepted signs?I dont use H21, I prefer H13...most astrologers use this one as it seems to be true expression of Lilith hence True Lilith.Find H13 in his chart to find out about his Lilith's nature. Mars RX ..is focusing on spiritual more than physical, sexual experiences can be less fulfilling. Sex based on deep love and a mutual spiritual experience will be more natural to him. Also as Mars rx is in 4th he is dealing with past life scenarios either to recreate situations from prior lifetimes that brought fulfillment or to find people who can symbolize those who fulfilled him in the past. Stressful situations can trigger reactions from the past. Mercury can shed more light in terms what it is related to.How does this fit ? This resonates quite beautifully Nova especially the Mars rx however he does not believe in spirituality. His NN degree is 1 degree 51" in Aquarius in the 12th house his Uranus is in Capricorn in the 11th house and Sun in Scorpio in the 9th house and the lord of 10th house is Jupiter in leo in the 6th house conjunct the DESC. Yes! His intercepted signs are 2nd house Aries & 8th house libra.Any thoughts on this? his asteroid Lilith right on his north node.------------------Addicted to Self Relfection - Jupiter R in the 12th HouseFionapineapple quote:Originally posted by Electro DGX: I tried but failed miserably lol. Often though people would notice other people staring at me, even when I don't notice myself lol. @electrodgx that's funny because I have black moon Lilith conjunct my ascendant in Scorpio and I get a lot of stares but most times I don't notice but the person or people I'm with do.@nova what would mars conjunct asteroid Lilith in scorpio square Leo north node be like in a natal chart?Electro DGX@Fionapineapple: it's so weird! My friends are like, "Hey, she thinks you're attractive!" and I'm like, "what?" lol------------------Aquarius Sun, Merc, Venus, Uranus, NeptuneScorpio Mars conj. Asc in First8th House Moon opposite Pluto, Trine UranusHave you caught onto the predicament I'm in yet?Rooted_Tree_33I learned that Noam Chomsky has this from the 12th house! Interesting, eh?!implosionsHad a few years of a 'fling' with someone with this placement (in Taurus) and they were all of the above mentioned.Huge player energy, but it was incredibly hard to prove or pin down. They also had a massive penchant for seeking out strongly placed Lilith women/partners too.In relation to the ascendant, they may not be entirely aware of it, but they certainly lean on it if they are able to. ESPECIALLY with white men in positions of fame or power. They can often get away with anything, as our society does not scapegoat the men, but the women they attach themselves to.However, I have seen a LOT of women in their wake who all have a lot of similar stories, so there is that.Hugely depends on the dude- as for anyone of any gender, if they aren't unpacked of self, they're probably a huge mess with a pretty face.
------------------Aquarius Sun, Merc, Venus, Uranus, NeptuneScorpio Mars conj. Asc in First8th House Moon opposite Pluto, Trine UranusHave you caught onto the predicament I'm in yet?
Close to the Ascendant it will be far from its usual awkwardness, there will be more charm and magnetism. Within 2 degrees often full of energy, breezy and disarming.Tightly conjunct the Ascendant - warm, dynamic, natural leaders, with a good sense of verbal timing. Popular even if not entirely trusted.Further down the energy changes - Social awkwardness, insecurities about physical appearance, compensating a lot to improve (think Michael Jackson).
If its from 12 House then its a different story. Very popular people and intensely seductive. Monica Belucci is
Lets distinguish all the Liliths out there :-) and some key words...
True Lilith - Black Moon Lilith (symbol h13) - 9 mths in ea signKey words: magic, animal magnetism, kundalini, creative force, tantric sex, seduction, intuition, psychic ability/healing, imagination, charisma, hypnotism, glamour, breaks down the barriers to unconscious
Dark Moon Lilith - Waldemath Moon (h58) - 10 days in ea signKey words: the shadow, demons, rage, toxins, emotional pain, catharsis, madness, SM, vengence,
asteroid Lilith (1181)Key words: rebellion, exile, confrontational, freedom fighter, impulsive, innovative, unconventional
quote:Originally posted by Fionapineapple:My guess has been that that part of their pysche is very private but a taboo hidden pleasure too like they think ppl won't accept that part of them but the hiding makes it feel highly charged. Possible power struggle with their relationship with women either needing to control or wanting to be dominated/wants a strong partner. Let's hope he's a creative typeYes this guy has asteroid Lilith conjunct his Mars, Bml,True Lilith with his Mercury,Pluto conjunction all in the 5th house house His dark moon,waldemath is on his Mc with part of fortune which I'm not quite sure how to interpret
Oh shite...I know a guy with this placement, 5th house BML ...conjunct his Moon :-(Well there are pluses and minuses of 5H placement..
PROSThese guys are smoking hot :-) .. Keanu Reeves, George Cloney , HUgh Jackman, Banderas ..well, you get the picture Incredible luck, without even trying, like a very profitable marriage or lottery win or just a lucky break in professionSmooth, very smooth, brilliant networkers generally it amplifies creative abilities ...especially writing...
Possible CONSFake or seeming like fake to others which may cause them not being accepted much...and misunderstoodGame players, smooth talkers , often fabulous liarsEither a black sheep in a family or having at least one child that is a lot of troubleVery suspicious of others, issues with trusting others which is problematic in relationships and friendships, so lots of very casual friends instead
getting back to your guy and 10H .. urge for power is common with Waldemath Moon in 10th as is with True Lilith, but it my be more manipulative or maniacal, and vengeful... on the other hand depending on sign and aspects something related to his 10H may be emotionally painful for him like a nasty boss...there is also possibility if he is lets say a writer that he channels this lilith through his books by creating a nasty lilith character which may bring him fortune..10H POF is a good financial indicator for gains through career, if venus and house and sign ruler is well placed and aspected.
Energetically he's just a mess haha..to me. Seems together but smh no no and he has Venus in Leo square Uranus in Scorprio in his chart so he dresses very boldly/different. Used to have a dark look but now its more earthy and spiritual mystic of the way head wrapped and everything haha
There's a heart in there but my goodness that Lilith energy very controlling, rebellious, sensitive to rejection, untrusting (I feel) wants full expression (his moon is in Capricorn and his Saturn is on his Sun)
If channeled nicely he can be a creative powerhouse, larger than life personality, big hearted very endearing that inspires many
quote:Originally posted by Fionapineapple:Oh I love u lol it is in his 6th house and his Venus is in his 3rd! He has Sun square Neptune and I was thinking that's where his messy energy is coming from but figured it could be tricky for a native to really amount to something with a Pisces midheaven u will literally either sink or soar to great heights. This isn't a stupid guy, he did research and learn a lot but that ego/self-expression and sexual excess is probably karma from past lives that he literally needs to clean up now
I've not looked at Pisces midheaven in terms of sink or soar, interesting.... I think I took it literally that fish will always find a way to swim and float, dead or alive lol.... because Pisces are mutable creatures and in need or distress they'll just change direction... oh, I dont think your guy will sink at all, he sounds so beautifully complicated and charismatic... he might swim upstream but he'll get there :-) eventually ...I love you too Miss Pineapple :-D
quote:Originally posted by Electro DGX:Thanks for the interpretation. I technically have it Parallel the Ascendant, but it sits in my first house as well. That is why I was asking
Can you do Jackson's moonwalk ?
I would love to get an interpretation from you at least your opinion how would you describe a male with asteroid lilith on his NorthNode in aquarius in the 12th house? also h21 in sag in the 10th house opposite there mars retrograde in the 4th house?
i can do you also an interpretation as well.
------------------Addicted to Self Relfection - Jupiter R in the 12th House
quote:Originally posted by Novabronte: I've not looked at Pisces midheaven in terms of sink or soar, interesting... oh, I dont think your guy will sink at all, he sounds so beautifully complicated and charismatic... he might swim upstream but he'll get there :-) eventually ...I love you too Miss Pineapple :-D
Oh see, to sink or soar to great heights I feel is a Scorpio thing since i'm a Pisces but have a lot of scorpioHe seems like he's experiencing a lot of Scorpio things once that depth is there he's no mutable fish
quote:Originally posted by angel4845:[b]@novabronteI would love to get an interpretation from you at least your opinion how would you describe a male with asteroid lilith on his NorthNode in aquarius in the 12th house? also h21 in sag in the 10th house opposite there mars retrograde in the 4th house?i can do you also an interpretation as well.[/B]
I would love to get an interpretation from you at least your opinion how would you describe a male with asteroid lilith on his NorthNode in aquarius in the 12th house? also h21 in sag in the 10th house opposite there mars retrograde in the 4th house?i can do you also an interpretation as well.
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Nodes deal with life direction and balancing karmic debts. Asteroid Lilith suggests whatever the NN course, it'll be unconventional. need more info...What is the NN degree ? Where is Uranus, Sun and lord of 10th house?are there any intercepted signs?
I dont use H21, I prefer H13...most astrologers use this one as it seems to be true expression of Lilith hence True Lilith.Find H13 in his chart to find out about his Lilith's nature.
Mars RX ..is focusing on spiritual more than physical, sexual experiences can be less fulfilling. Sex based on deep love and a mutual spiritual experience will be more natural to him. Also as Mars rx is in 4th he is dealing with past life scenarios either to recreate situations from prior lifetimes that brought fulfillment or to find people who can symbolize those who fulfilled him in the past. Stressful situations can trigger reactions from the past. Mercury can shed more light in terms what it is related to.
How does this fit ?
quote:Originally posted by Novabronte: Can you do Jackson's moonwalk ?
I tried but failed miserably lol. Often though people would notice other people staring at me, even when I don't notice myself lol.
quote:Originally posted by Novabronte: Nodes deal with life direction and balancing karmic debts. Asteroid Lilith suggests whatever the NN course, it'll be unconventional. need more info...What is the NN degree ? Where is Uranus, Sun and lord of 10th house?are there any intercepted signs?I dont use H21, I prefer H13...most astrologers use this one as it seems to be true expression of Lilith hence True Lilith.Find H13 in his chart to find out about his Lilith's nature. Mars RX ..is focusing on spiritual more than physical, sexual experiences can be less fulfilling. Sex based on deep love and a mutual spiritual experience will be more natural to him. Also as Mars rx is in 4th he is dealing with past life scenarios either to recreate situations from prior lifetimes that brought fulfillment or to find people who can symbolize those who fulfilled him in the past. Stressful situations can trigger reactions from the past. Mercury can shed more light in terms what it is related to.How does this fit ?
This resonates quite beautifully Nova especially the Mars rx however he does not believe in spirituality. His NN degree is 1 degree 51" in Aquarius in the 12th house his Uranus is in Capricorn in the 11th house and Sun in Scorpio in the 9th house and the lord of 10th house is Jupiter in leo in the 6th house conjunct the DESC. Yes! His intercepted signs are 2nd house Aries & 8th house libra.
Any thoughts on this? his asteroid Lilith right on his north node.
quote:Originally posted by Electro DGX: I tried but failed miserably lol. Often though people would notice other people staring at me, even when I don't notice myself lol.
@electrodgx that's funny because I have black moon Lilith conjunct my ascendant in Scorpio and I get a lot of stares but most times I don't notice but the person or people I'm with do.
@nova what would mars conjunct asteroid Lilith in scorpio square Leo north node be like in a natal chart?
Huge player energy, but it was incredibly hard to prove or pin down. They also had a massive penchant for seeking out strongly placed Lilith women/partners too.
In relation to the ascendant, they may not be entirely aware of it, but they certainly lean on it if they are able to. ESPECIALLY with white men in positions of fame or power. They can often get away with anything, as our society does not scapegoat the men, but the women they attach themselves to.
However, I have seen a LOT of women in their wake who all have a lot of similar stories, so there is that.
Hugely depends on the dude- as for anyone of any gender, if they aren't unpacked of self, they're probably a huge mess with a pretty face.
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