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T O P I C R E V I E WToughPrincessa1997How eould you interpret thisRandallBump!RandallBump!GrahamMoon/Pluto midpoint = where intense emotional and compulsive issues may be activated (From Astrocalc 6.5 interpretation text)Descendant conjunct Moon/Pluto = intimate others will activate those intense emotional and compulsive issues.So, in synastry, the appearance/mannerisms or/and behaviour of the descendant person will (in some way) remind the Moon/Pluto partner (subconsciously) of someone/something in their childhood/adolescence that (probably) caused them to experience considerable emotional pain OR pleasure. However, whether pleasure or pain will depend upon the past-life dharma or karma being worked out by the two people in the current lifetime.And, if pain, the Moon/Pluto person is likely (unless very spiritually mature) to "deal" with that by attempting to change the appearance, mannerisms or/and behaviour of the descendant person.["Hey Descendy, that (skimpy, black) dress makes your bum look big (i.e.. attracts admirers). ... I think you look much better in the (full-length, loose-fitting) dress that my grandmother made for you."] ToughPrincessa1997 quote:Originally posted by Graham:Moon/Pluto midpoint = where intense emotional and compulsive issues may be activated (From Astrocalc 6.5 interpretation text)Descendant conjunct Moon/Pluto = intimate others will activate those intense emotional and compulsive issues.So, in synastry, the appearance/mannerisms or/and behaviour of the descendant person will (in some way) remind the Moon/Pluto partner (subconsciously) of someone/something in their childhood/adolescence that (probably) caused them to experience considerable emotional pain OR pleasure. However, whether pleasure or pain will depend upon the past-life dharma or karma being worked out by the two people in the current lifetime.And, if pain, the Moon/Pluto person is likely (unless very spiritually mature) to "deal" with that by attempting to change the appearance, mannerisms or/and behaviour of the descendant person.["Hey Descendy, that (skimpy, black) dress makes your bum look big (i.e.. attracts admirers). ... I think you look much better in the (full-length, loose-fitting) dress that my grandmother made for you."] Thank you Graham! This conjuxtion is also attached to the moon so my moonpluto midpoint is conjuct his moon and his descendant and his south node as well, which all conjuct my IC ( natally i have moon pluto midpoint conjuct my ic and my ic is conjuct his dc). What could this mean?Graham quote:Originally posted by ToughPrincessa1997: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Graham:[b]Moon/Pluto midpoint = where intense emotional and compulsive issues may be activated (From Astrocalc 6.5 interpretation text)Descendant conjunct Moon/Pluto = intimate others will activate those intense emotional and compulsive issues.So, in synastry, the appearance/mannerisms or/and behaviour of the descendant person will (in some way) remind the Moon/Pluto partner (subconsciously) of someone/something in their childhood/adolescence that (probably) caused them to experience considerable emotional pain OR pleasure. However, whether pleasure or pain will depend upon the past-life dharma or karma being worked out by the two people in the current lifetime.And, if pain, the Moon/Pluto person is likely (unless very spiritually mature) to "deal" with that by attempting to change the appearance, mannerisms or/and behaviour of the descendant person.["Hey Descendy, that (skimpy, black) dress makes your bum look big (i.e.. attracts admirers). ... I think you look much better in the (full-length, loose-fitting) dress that my grandmother made for you."] Thank you Graham! This conjuxtion is also attached to the moon so my moonpluto midpoint is conjuct his moon and his descendant and his south node as well, which all conjuct my IC ( natally i have moon pluto midpoint conjuct my ic and my ic is conjuct his dc). What could this mean?[/B][/QUOTE]___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Think of the MC as being where (symbolically) you can ascend (to heaven-on-earth) and the IC as where you can descend (to hell-on-earth).Those conjunctions at your IC provide a mechanism for you to experience the hell-on-earth that (his SN indicates) he is very comfortable with.However ... this does not (necessarily) mean you should avoid the experience of going there ... since his SN skills make him the equivalent of Pluto in that realm, and thus able to help you/persphone to also become comfortable there. ... [["Hey Descendy, that (skimpy, black) dress makes your bum look big (i.e.. attracts admirers). ... I think you look much better in the (full-length, loose-fitting) dress that my ELDERLY grandmother KINDLY made for you FROM THOSE EXPENSIVE BEDROOM CURTAINS THAT SHE LOVED"]Hence ... having experienced the descent into the IC myself, and benefited/learned much from doing so ... I consider it to be an opportunity for personal growth - if entered into consciously/with eyes-wide-open.[Note : Ask more questions if this does not make sense to you, as it is a difficult thing to grasp intellectually rather than via hands-on experience.]ToughPrincessa1997 quote:Originally posted by Graham: [QUOTE]Originally posted by ToughPrincessa1997:[b] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Graham:[b]Moon/Pluto midpoint = where intense emotional and compulsive issues may be activated (From Astrocalc 6.5 interpretation text)Descendant conjunct Moon/Pluto = intimate others will activate those intense emotional and compulsive issues.So, in synastry, the appearance/mannerisms or/and behaviour of the descendant person will (in some way) remind the Moon/Pluto partner (subconsciously) of someone/something in their childhood/adolescence that (probably) caused them to experience considerable emotional pain OR pleasure. However, whether pleasure or pain will depend upon the past-life dharma or karma being worked out by the two people in the current lifetime.And, if pain, the Moon/Pluto person is likely (unless very spiritually mature) to "deal" with that by attempting to change the appearance, mannerisms or/and behaviour of the descendant person.["Hey Descendy, that (skimpy, black) dress makes your bum look big (i.e.. attracts admirers). ... I think you look much better in the (full-length, loose-fitting) dress that my grandmother made for you."] Thank you Graham! This conjuxtion is also attached to the moon so my moonpluto midpoint is conjuct his moon and his descendant and his south node as well, which all conjuct my IC ( natally i have moon pluto midpoint conjuct my ic and my ic is conjuct his dc). What could this mean?[/B][/QUOTE]___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Think of the MC as being where (symbolically) you can ascend (to heaven-on-earth) and the IC as where you can descend (to hell-on-earth).Those conjunctions at your IC provide a mechanism for you to experience the hell-on-earth that (his SN indicates) he is very comfortable with.However ... this does not (necessarily) mean you should avoid the experience of going there ... since his SN skills make him the equivalent of Pluto in that realm, and thus able to help you/persphone to also become comfortable there. ... [["Hey Descendy, that (skimpy, black) dress makes your bum look big (i.e.. attracts admirers). ... I think you look much better in the (full-length, loose-fitting) dress that my ELDERLY grandmother KINDLY made for you FROM THOSE EXPENSIVE BEDROOM CURTAINS THAT SHE LOVED"]Hence ... having experienced the descent into the IC myself, and benefited/learned much from doing so ... I consider it to be an opportunity for personal growth - if entered into consciously/with eyes-wide-open.[Note : Ask more questions if this does not make sense to you, as it is a difficult thing to grasp intellectually rather than via hands-on experience.][/B][/QUOTE]Hmm I am understamging but not to what does he feel since it is his descendant his moon and his soith node, and my moon/pluto midpiint, because you stated that I should be possesive of his looks, but in our relationshio it is actually him always commenting of my outfit choices and being possesivr. Am I still in this persephone role even tough it is my pluto/moon midpoint on his descendant, moon, south node
Descendant conjunct Moon/Pluto = intimate others will activate those intense emotional and compulsive issues.
So, in synastry, the appearance/mannerisms or/and behaviour of the descendant person will (in some way) remind the Moon/Pluto partner (subconsciously) of someone/something in their childhood/adolescence that (probably) caused them to experience considerable emotional pain OR pleasure. However, whether pleasure or pain will depend upon the past-life dharma or karma being worked out by the two people in the current lifetime.
And, if pain, the Moon/Pluto person is likely (unless very spiritually mature) to "deal" with that by attempting to change the appearance, mannerisms or/and behaviour of the descendant person.
["Hey Descendy, that (skimpy, black) dress makes your bum look big (i.e.. attracts admirers). ... I think you look much better in the (full-length, loose-fitting) dress that my grandmother made for you."]
quote:Originally posted by Graham:Moon/Pluto midpoint = where intense emotional and compulsive issues may be activated (From Astrocalc 6.5 interpretation text)Descendant conjunct Moon/Pluto = intimate others will activate those intense emotional and compulsive issues.So, in synastry, the appearance/mannerisms or/and behaviour of the descendant person will (in some way) remind the Moon/Pluto partner (subconsciously) of someone/something in their childhood/adolescence that (probably) caused them to experience considerable emotional pain OR pleasure. However, whether pleasure or pain will depend upon the past-life dharma or karma being worked out by the two people in the current lifetime.And, if pain, the Moon/Pluto person is likely (unless very spiritually mature) to "deal" with that by attempting to change the appearance, mannerisms or/and behaviour of the descendant person.["Hey Descendy, that (skimpy, black) dress makes your bum look big (i.e.. attracts admirers). ... I think you look much better in the (full-length, loose-fitting) dress that my grandmother made for you."]
quote:Originally posted by ToughPrincessa1997: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Graham:[b]Moon/Pluto midpoint = where intense emotional and compulsive issues may be activated (From Astrocalc 6.5 interpretation text)Descendant conjunct Moon/Pluto = intimate others will activate those intense emotional and compulsive issues.So, in synastry, the appearance/mannerisms or/and behaviour of the descendant person will (in some way) remind the Moon/Pluto partner (subconsciously) of someone/something in their childhood/adolescence that (probably) caused them to experience considerable emotional pain OR pleasure. However, whether pleasure or pain will depend upon the past-life dharma or karma being worked out by the two people in the current lifetime.And, if pain, the Moon/Pluto person is likely (unless very spiritually mature) to "deal" with that by attempting to change the appearance, mannerisms or/and behaviour of the descendant person.["Hey Descendy, that (skimpy, black) dress makes your bum look big (i.e.. attracts admirers). ... I think you look much better in the (full-length, loose-fitting) dress that my grandmother made for you."]
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Think of the MC as being where (symbolically) you can ascend (to heaven-on-earth) and the IC as where you can descend (to hell-on-earth).
Those conjunctions at your IC provide a mechanism for you to experience the hell-on-earth that (his SN indicates) he is very comfortable with.
However ... this does not (necessarily) mean you should avoid the experience of going there ... since his SN skills make him the equivalent of Pluto in that realm, and thus able to help you/persphone to also become comfortable there. ... [["Hey Descendy, that (skimpy, black) dress makes your bum look big (i.e.. attracts admirers). ... I think you look much better in the (full-length, loose-fitting) dress that my ELDERLY grandmother KINDLY made for you FROM THOSE EXPENSIVE BEDROOM CURTAINS THAT SHE LOVED"]
Hence ... having experienced the descent into the IC myself, and benefited/learned much from doing so ... I consider it to be an opportunity for personal growth - if entered into consciously/with eyes-wide-open.
[Note : Ask more questions if this does not make sense to you, as it is a difficult thing to grasp intellectually rather than via hands-on experience.]
quote:Originally posted by Graham: [QUOTE]Originally posted by ToughPrincessa1997:[b] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Graham:[b]Moon/Pluto midpoint = where intense emotional and compulsive issues may be activated (From Astrocalc 6.5 interpretation text)Descendant conjunct Moon/Pluto = intimate others will activate those intense emotional and compulsive issues.So, in synastry, the appearance/mannerisms or/and behaviour of the descendant person will (in some way) remind the Moon/Pluto partner (subconsciously) of someone/something in their childhood/adolescence that (probably) caused them to experience considerable emotional pain OR pleasure. However, whether pleasure or pain will depend upon the past-life dharma or karma being worked out by the two people in the current lifetime.And, if pain, the Moon/Pluto person is likely (unless very spiritually mature) to "deal" with that by attempting to change the appearance, mannerisms or/and behaviour of the descendant person.["Hey Descendy, that (skimpy, black) dress makes your bum look big (i.e.. attracts admirers). ... I think you look much better in the (full-length, loose-fitting) dress that my grandmother made for you."]
[Note : Ask more questions if this does not make sense to you, as it is a difficult thing to grasp intellectually rather than via hands-on experience.][/B][/QUOTE]Hmm I am understamging but not to what does he feel since it is his descendant his moon and his soith node, and my moon/pluto midpiint, because you stated that I should be possesive of his looks, but in our relationshio it is actually him always commenting of my outfit choices and being possesivr. Am I still in this persephone role even tough it is my pluto/moon midpoint on his descendant, moon, south node
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