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T O P I C R E V I E WLaylayComing off the back of my previous post.. someone commented about me making my own friends.. which got me thinking about that.I dont have friends, dont want friends. Never really had friends as a kid except the other kids who didnt have friends. In a crowd, I only ever gravitate to the people who are unpopular or different in some way. I'm more comfortable with the "rejects". I'm sort of socially lazy as well.. but despite this people take to me well and I'm very much liked by everyone. I'd rather not talk to people but if I have to I conversate well.I'm certain this placement is mostly responsible- is there anything else in my chart that would point to me being a loner?Anything stand out in general?I feel I shine my brightest as a person when I'm at work (probs Venus in the 10th?) Thanks! https://ibb.co/p474JWR RandallBump!livvywatermonkeyHi Laylay,I also notice your Vertex conjunct Descendant, I’ve read interpretations of Vertex as our “spiritual Ascendant”, & in this case, it could mean you are quite self-contained & independent - when you are healthy, you project an image of being able to take care of yourself, like you are your own best partner/friend & have a sense that you can always rely on yourself & do so easily, like relying on others is more drama than it’s worth, does this resonate?alegnaHi, Most aquarians with an 11th house sun would consider friendship an important part of their lives. I think the fact that for you, it's not the case, is down to the T square involving your sun conjunct mercury, your moon and 8th house pluto.Aquarius needs to feel free to do it's own thing and to be independant. Taurus moons need security to feel ok . 8th house pluto squaring and opposing sun and moon , the most intrinsic parts of the self , might suggest that you feel those things would be threatened in some way, should you allow yourself to become too involved with people.Perhaps you find others too intense or invasive, or perhaps ,as the moon and sun are involved , you found one or both parents to be over controlling , dominating and threatening to your sense of self . If this is the case, you maybe avoid getting too close to people because you have been made to feel uncomfortable by those around you when you growing up.alegnaHi, Most aquarians with an 11th house sun would consider friendship an important part of their lives. I think the fact that for you, it's not the case, is down to the T square involving your sun conjunct mercury, your moon and 8th house pluto.Aquarius needs to feel free to do it's own thing and to be independant. Taurus moons need security to feel ok . 8th house pluto squaring and opposing sun and moon , the most intrinsic parts of the self , might suggest that you feel those things would be threatened in some way, should you allow yourself to become too involved with people.Perhaps you find others too intense or invasive, or perhaps ,as the moon and sun are involved , you found one or both parents to be over controlling , dominating and threatening to your sense of self . If this is the case, you maybe avoid getting too close to people because you have been made to feel uncomfortable by those around you when you growing up.Laylay quote:Originally posted by livvywatermonkey:Hi Laylay,I also notice your Vertex conjunct Descendant, I’ve read interpretations of Vertex as our “spiritual Ascendant”, & in this case, it could mean you are quite self-contained & independent - when you are healthy, you project an image of being able to take care of yourself, like you are your own best partner/friend & have a sense that you can always rely on yourself & do so easily, like relying on others is more drama than it’s worth, does this resonate?It absolutely does though sometimes I wish I had friends just so I could go out and have fun.. but at the same time I find friendship to be a burden. The only friendship I'd ever want would be with my "partner"Laylay quote:Originally posted by alegna:Hi, Most aquarians with an 11th house sun would consider friendship an important part of their lives. I think the fact that for you, it's not the case, is down to the T square involving your sun conjunct mercury, your moon and 8th house pluto.Aquarius needs to feel free to do it's own thing and to be independant. Taurus moons need security to feel ok . 8th house pluto squaring and opposing sun and moon , the most intrinsic parts of the self , might suggest that you feel those things would be threatened in some way, should you allow yourself to become too involved with people.Perhaps you find others too intense or invasive, or perhaps ,as the moon and sun are involved , you found one or both parents to be over controlling , dominating and threatening to your sense of self . If this is the case, you maybe avoid getting too close to people because you have been made to feel uncomfortable by those around you when you growing up.Thanks for your reply. I always felt that the chiron in 5H Leo and the intercepted 3/9H was responsible for that.. My parents are a whole other story. My mum does not trust people and she warned me about every friend I or boyfriend I ever had. Warns me against telling anyone anything about myself because people use it as a weapon against you. My mum doesnt talk to people or doesnt get close to anyone.. I dont want to end up like her though.I am independent and I value freedom but ultimately I want someone to look after me. I want a best friend. I can establish connections.. but I'm too lazy to put in the effort to maintain them because its exhausting .RandallBump!
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I also notice your Vertex conjunct Descendant, I’ve read interpretations of Vertex as our “spiritual Ascendant”, & in this case, it could mean you are quite self-contained & independent - when you are healthy, you project an image of being able to take care of yourself, like you are your own best partner/friend & have a sense that you can always rely on yourself & do so easily, like relying on others is more drama than it’s worth, does this resonate?
quote:Originally posted by livvywatermonkey:Hi Laylay,I also notice your Vertex conjunct Descendant, I’ve read interpretations of Vertex as our “spiritual Ascendant”, & in this case, it could mean you are quite self-contained & independent - when you are healthy, you project an image of being able to take care of yourself, like you are your own best partner/friend & have a sense that you can always rely on yourself & do so easily, like relying on others is more drama than it’s worth, does this resonate?
It absolutely does though sometimes I wish I had friends just so I could go out and have fun.. but at the same time I find friendship to be a burden. The only friendship I'd ever want would be with my "partner"
quote:Originally posted by alegna:Hi, Most aquarians with an 11th house sun would consider friendship an important part of their lives. I think the fact that for you, it's not the case, is down to the T square involving your sun conjunct mercury, your moon and 8th house pluto.Aquarius needs to feel free to do it's own thing and to be independant. Taurus moons need security to feel ok . 8th house pluto squaring and opposing sun and moon , the most intrinsic parts of the self , might suggest that you feel those things would be threatened in some way, should you allow yourself to become too involved with people.Perhaps you find others too intense or invasive, or perhaps ,as the moon and sun are involved , you found one or both parents to be over controlling , dominating and threatening to your sense of self . If this is the case, you maybe avoid getting too close to people because you have been made to feel uncomfortable by those around you when you growing up.
Thanks for your reply. I always felt that the chiron in 5H Leo and the intercepted 3/9H was responsible for that.. My parents are a whole other story. My mum does not trust people and she warned me about every friend I or boyfriend I ever had. Warns me against telling anyone anything about myself because people use it as a weapon against you. My mum doesnt talk to people or doesnt get close to anyone.. I dont want to end up like her though.I am independent and I value freedom but ultimately I want someone to look after me. I want a best friend. I can establish connections.. but I'm too lazy to put in the effort to maintain them because its exhausting .
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