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T O P I C R E V I E WLionessDo you think the energy is the same? Or is one lesser than the other? Lioness http://collaboratingwithfate.blogspot.com/2006/10/powerful-parallels.html Although contra parallels were not mentioned in astrological literature until the 1950's parallels of declination have been recorded by the ancient astrologers such as Ptolemy. According to Charles Jayne, they were in common use from the 1600's onwards and in The Text Book of Astrology in 1890, W.J. Simmonite wrote "parallel is of more importance than any other aspect and more powerful than a conjunction." I personally came to the use of parallels through the works of C.C. Zain from The Church of Light, who is a major authority on the subject of Mundane astrology.LionessWhen looking for yours, stay within a 1.5 declination.In my chart I have moon/Pluto parallelI'm still working on looking at others KeroseneSorry Im so new to this concept...So my suns declination is 21°49'57" and Neptune's declination is -21°24'43"Is that parallel LOL?Or are parallels like conjunctions.. idk im confused. Lioness quote:Originally posted by Kerosene:Sorry Im so new to this concept...So my suns declination is 21°49'57" and Neptune's declination is -21°24'43"Is that parallel LOL?Or are parallels like conjunctions.. idk im confused. Also check for the N or SNorth or south.. If both north or both south than its a parallel. If one is N and the other is S then it's contra parallel. Parallel - conjunctionContra parallel - oppositionKerosenenvmKeroseneWow I always felt really Neptunian.I feel as if neptune should be in conjunction with my gemini stellium! quote:Sun-Neptune: The aspects march to the beat of a distant drum. They are part visionary, part spaced-out, with a taste for the abstract or mystical, and a well-developed set of spiritual and moral ideals. Although generally cheerful, they also have an air of vague worry—a restlessness of nervous, little backward glances. They are forward looking but indecisive, capricious, and inclined to view the world through rose-colored glasses. Their viewpoint is bold and original, but also distorted by its own fancies and imaginings. parallels are similarly idealistic and willing to operate on a basis of their own intuition; but they are not so blindly optimistic and naive on the one hand, nor as torn by self-doubt on the other. In contrast to the fluttery aspects, they are more intellectual or logically minded, and have a strong sense of inner stability and being connected. quote:Moon-Neptune: The aspects are soft and vulnerable, and have a wistful, abstracted air about them, as if they were tuned into their own personal wavelength. They have an impish glint in their eyes, as if relishing their own secret joke. They gaze past the things of this world with a look of yearning for some idealized universe. At times you can speak directly to them, looking them right in the eye as they smile and nod back to you, and they won’t even hear a word you’re saying. But they are true salt-of-the-earth types in their naive optimism and harmlessness. The parallels are as private as the aspects, and they have the same spritely and winsome manner, but they are nowhere near as woolly. In fact they can be quite shrewd and calculating in employing their pixie-like mischievousness to charm and wheedle other people. They’re never so far off in the stratosphere that they miss an opportunity down here on Earth. quote:Mercury-Neptune: The aspects are dreamy and idealistic, and have a highly utopian outlook on life and human nature, wanting to believe the best of people and situations. They are unsophisticated and unselfconscious—they come on like playful puppies wagging their tails, with a surplus of enthusiasm and good intentions. Albeit rough and blustery on the surface, underneath they are soft-hearted and a bit soft-headed, which makes them easy to impose upon or deceive. The parallels evince the same naive trust in people as the aspects, but they are nonetheless cautious and wary. They have a governor on their impulses (which the aspects totally lack) that lets them intellectually examine a situation before committing themselves to it. They temper the emotional vulnerability of the aspects with a modicum of common sense and self-appraisal.Interesting thread, lioness!scroll down to find your aspects if you're still looking, op! http://tribes.tribe.net/astrologylovers/thread/38492fae-955c-4b87-aa9f-11caad3d73a5 mirAccording to TMS (the magi society) and their research the (contra-)parallels are as powerful as aspects in the longitudes and even more powerful when it comes to sexual aspects in synastry. So that would mean the parallels AND contra-parallels between Venus/Mars/Pluto/Juno. O and congratulations Kerosene. According to their research you're endowed with the fountain-of-youth aspect which bestows youth and longevity to the native. It's a Sun/Neptune parallel OR contra-parallel (but also the conjunction, trine and quincunx in the longitudes). I have the c-p myself I never fail to look at the declinations. Big chance that you don't have an unaspected planet natally or in synastry.KeroseneOh really?I could work with that!!I have sun/uranus parallel too, does that have any special benefits? 11nahytI find the conjunctions are stronger, And the parallels feel like a close shadow right behind you. The conjunctions are infront of you, being Obvious and always on display. The parallels seem to alternate between suddenly really feeling them, and then just sort of on mute in the background. But still kind of of sensing it.This is how i plays out for me anyway.Kerosenethat's because parallels are suppose to be soft aspects, personally I find it hard to feel soft aspects.. even thou it's very much there.Hard aspects like Squares oppositions and conjunctions make a huge impact on your life, it's hard to ignore them.I can understand sun/neptune influence in my chart and plays out like this. quote:sun/neptune creates a dynamic and creative push-pull which drives them to achieve imaginative excellence. They have an ethereal, other worldly aura which attracts people to project their dreams onto them. They wear it well and make good clothes-horses for partners to wrap their fantasies around. They are prime candidates for projection. They seem to attract wounded and troubled partners who seek in them salvation. They may have supremely idealistic expectations in their love life, constantly searching for that perfect Soulmate to make them feel whole.Ceridwenlongitudinal aspects which coincide with parallels/ contraparallels are extra-strong (actually these are the "true" aspects, as for example only if two planets are conjunct AND parallel - which is also called an ecclipse- they seem to be merged visibly in the sky, when you look up. Should they be "only" conjunct, but not parallel, the two planets still seem to be a bit away from each other).I haven`t found paralells or contraparallels stronger than longitudinal aspects (so I have to disagree with the Magi); also you need to keep in mind that they happen far more often than a conjunction or opposition, due to reasons of probability (the declinations only have about 46 degrees, the zodiac has 360°).HOwever irrespective of that I have found them to be of influence; I am not yet totally sure how strong their influence really is independently from other aspects, but I guess (no proof) it is very strong.Actually I had a thread on the solar and lunar festivals once around here, and those are very very very closely aligned with the declinations.In my own chart I have Moon, Uranus and Juno parallel each other and all three contraparallel Pluto.I think it shows.Ceridwen http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/219137.html I failed to mention the declinations in this, but it should be noted that the festivals rather coincide with the declinations than the longitudinal positions (more exactly at least).This is for example very visible in the case of Samhain/HAlloween and Beltane.While these do not coincide with 15 degrees of Scorpio and Taurus, they DO take place when the Sun is 15 degree NORTH or SOUTH in declination, precisely. Ceridwen quote:Originally posted by 11nahyt:I find the conjunctions are stronger, And the parallels feel like a close shadow right behind you. The conjunctions are infront of you, being Obvious and always on display. The parallels seem to alternate between suddenly really feeling them, and then just sort of on mute in the background. But still kind of of sensing it.This is how i plays out for me anyway.Yes, that is how I experience them most of the time myself.Ceridwen quote:Originally posted by 11nahyt:I find the conjunctions are stronger, And the parallels feel like a close shadow right behind you. The conjunctions are infront of you, being Obvious and always on display. The parallels seem to alternate between suddenly really feeling them, and then just sort of on mute in the background. But still kind of of sensing it.This is how i plays out for me anyway.Yes, that is how I experience them most of the time myself.Lioness quote:Originally posted by Ceridwen: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/219137.html I failed to mention the declinations in this, but it should be noted that the festivals rather coincide with the declinations than the longitudinal positions (more exactly at least).This is for example very visible in the case of Samhain/HAlloween and Beltane.While these do not coincide with 15 degrees of Scorpio and Taurus, they DO take place when the Sun is 15 degree NORTH or SOUTH in declination, precisely. I have sun conjunct moon and sun parallel moon by 1.5.Also my sun declination is at 15'52'15I agree it being part if a shadow inside you, it's there, yet have you really come to acknowledge it.
Although contra parallels were not mentioned in astrological literature until the 1950's parallels of declination have been recorded by the ancient astrologers such as Ptolemy. According to Charles Jayne, they were in common use from the 1600's onwards and in The Text Book of Astrology in 1890, W.J. Simmonite wrote "parallel is of more importance than any other aspect and more powerful than a conjunction." I personally came to the use of parallels through the works of C.C. Zain from The Church of Light, who is a major authority on the subject of Mundane astrology.
When looking for yours, stay within a 1.5 declination.In my chart I have moon/Pluto parallelI'm still working on looking at others
So my suns declination is 21°49'57" and Neptune's declination is -21°24'43"
Is that parallel LOL?
Or are parallels like conjunctions.. idk im confused.
quote:Originally posted by Kerosene:Sorry Im so new to this concept...So my suns declination is 21°49'57" and Neptune's declination is -21°24'43"Is that parallel LOL?Or are parallels like conjunctions.. idk im confused.
If both north or both south than its a parallel.
If one is N and the other is S then it's contra parallel.
Parallel - conjunctionContra parallel - opposition
quote:Sun-Neptune: The aspects march to the beat of a distant drum. They are part visionary, part spaced-out, with a taste for the abstract or mystical, and a well-developed set of spiritual and moral ideals. Although generally cheerful, they also have an air of vague worry—a restlessness of nervous, little backward glances. They are forward looking but indecisive, capricious, and inclined to view the world through rose-colored glasses. Their viewpoint is bold and original, but also distorted by its own fancies and imaginings. parallels are similarly idealistic and willing to operate on a basis of their own intuition; but they are not so blindly optimistic and naive on the one hand, nor as torn by self-doubt on the other. In contrast to the fluttery aspects, they are more intellectual or logically minded, and have a strong sense of inner stability and being connected.
parallels are similarly idealistic and willing to operate on a basis of their own intuition; but they are not so blindly optimistic and naive on the one hand, nor as torn by self-doubt on the other. In contrast to the fluttery aspects, they are more intellectual or logically minded, and have a strong sense of inner stability and being connected.
quote:Moon-Neptune: The aspects are soft and vulnerable, and have a wistful, abstracted air about them, as if they were tuned into their own personal wavelength. They have an impish glint in their eyes, as if relishing their own secret joke. They gaze past the things of this world with a look of yearning for some idealized universe. At times you can speak directly to them, looking them right in the eye as they smile and nod back to you, and they won’t even hear a word you’re saying. But they are true salt-of-the-earth types in their naive optimism and harmlessness. The parallels are as private as the aspects, and they have the same spritely and winsome manner, but they are nowhere near as woolly. In fact they can be quite shrewd and calculating in employing their pixie-like mischievousness to charm and wheedle other people. They’re never so far off in the stratosphere that they miss an opportunity down here on Earth.
The parallels are as private as the aspects, and they have the same spritely and winsome manner, but they are nowhere near as woolly. In fact they can be quite shrewd and calculating in employing their pixie-like mischievousness to charm and wheedle other people. They’re never so far off in the stratosphere that they miss an opportunity down here on Earth.
quote:Mercury-Neptune: The aspects are dreamy and idealistic, and have a highly utopian outlook on life and human nature, wanting to believe the best of people and situations. They are unsophisticated and unselfconscious—they come on like playful puppies wagging their tails, with a surplus of enthusiasm and good intentions. Albeit rough and blustery on the surface, underneath they are soft-hearted and a bit soft-headed, which makes them easy to impose upon or deceive. The parallels evince the same naive trust in people as the aspects, but they are nonetheless cautious and wary. They have a governor on their impulses (which the aspects totally lack) that lets them intellectually examine a situation before committing themselves to it. They temper the emotional vulnerability of the aspects with a modicum of common sense and self-appraisal.
The parallels evince the same naive trust in people as the aspects, but they are nonetheless cautious and wary. They have a governor on their impulses (which the aspects totally lack) that lets them intellectually examine a situation before committing themselves to it. They temper the emotional vulnerability of the aspects with a modicum of common sense and self-appraisal.
Interesting thread, lioness!
scroll down to find your aspects if you're still looking, op! http://tribes.tribe.net/astrologylovers/thread/38492fae-955c-4b87-aa9f-11caad3d73a5
O and congratulations Kerosene. According to their research you're endowed with the fountain-of-youth aspect which bestows youth and longevity to the native. It's a Sun/Neptune parallel OR contra-parallel (but also the conjunction, trine and quincunx in the longitudes). I have the c-p myself
I never fail to look at the declinations. Big chance that you don't have an unaspected planet natally or in synastry.
This is how i plays out for me anyway.
Hard aspects like Squares oppositions and conjunctions make a huge impact on your life, it's hard to ignore them.I can understand sun/neptune influence in my chart and plays out like this.
quote:sun/neptune creates a dynamic and creative push-pull which drives them to achieve imaginative excellence. They have an ethereal, other worldly aura which attracts people to project their dreams onto them. They wear it well and make good clothes-horses for partners to wrap their fantasies around. They are prime candidates for projection. They seem to attract wounded and troubled partners who seek in them salvation. They may have supremely idealistic expectations in their love life, constantly searching for that perfect Soulmate to make them feel whole.
I haven`t found paralells or contraparallels stronger than longitudinal aspects (so I have to disagree with the Magi); also you need to keep in mind that they happen far more often than a conjunction or opposition, due to reasons of probability (the declinations only have about 46 degrees, the zodiac has 360°).
HOwever irrespective of that I have found them to be of influence; I am not yet totally sure how strong their influence really is independently from other aspects, but I guess (no proof) it is very strong.
Actually I had a thread on the solar and lunar festivals once around here, and those are very very very closely aligned with the declinations.
In my own chart I have Moon, Uranus and Juno parallel each other and all three contraparallel Pluto.I think it shows.
I failed to mention the declinations in this, but it should be noted that the festivals rather coincide with the declinations than the longitudinal positions (more exactly at least).
This is for example very visible in the case of Samhain/HAlloween and Beltane.
While these do not coincide with 15 degrees of Scorpio and Taurus, they DO take place when the Sun is 15 degree NORTH or SOUTH in declination, precisely.
quote:Originally posted by 11nahyt:I find the conjunctions are stronger, And the parallels feel like a close shadow right behind you. The conjunctions are infront of you, being Obvious and always on display. The parallels seem to alternate between suddenly really feeling them, and then just sort of on mute in the background. But still kind of of sensing it.This is how i plays out for me anyway.
Yes, that is how I experience them most of the time myself.
quote:Originally posted by Ceridwen: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/219137.html I failed to mention the declinations in this, but it should be noted that the festivals rather coincide with the declinations than the longitudinal positions (more exactly at least).This is for example very visible in the case of Samhain/HAlloween and Beltane.While these do not coincide with 15 degrees of Scorpio and Taurus, they DO take place when the Sun is 15 degree NORTH or SOUTH in declination, precisely.
I have sun conjunct moon and sun parallel moon by 1.5.
Also my sun declination is at 15'52'15
I agree it being part if a shadow inside you, it's there, yet have you really come to acknowledge it.
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