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T O P I C R E V I E WToughPrincessa1997Hello. I usually dobt like to think aboit my past relationship, but this was something else. Lasted 3 years, we broke up in 2017, still dream a lot about him.. will always love him. It was painful, amazing,passionate amd unfortionetly impossible to be together. He ended up marrying in his religion. We were so in love, and still are I think. I am in a happy relationship right now, in love wirh my man but still dreaming of this ex. I posted in 2017 in one forum where they said there was nothing soecial, I disagree because this link we have is still alive after all these years. I was amazed to find oit that my sun/moon mp ia conjuct his moon, and his sun/moon mp is conjuct my moon, a doublewhammy which I havent seen anywhere before. Stoika, ppease help me understand why do I still think about this man, amd todd can you explain our composite please.. it is furstrating not able to completely forget about him... First chart composite, second i am red synastry, birth times correct. http://imgur.com/a/7j3cTM7 Stoika7I believe this is a very karmic relationship. First off, your sun-moon mp conjunct his moon involves also your Vertex opposite his Chiron, AND square to his North Node (12th house) conjunct to your Pluto, so this likely gave such an intense soulmate bond between you two. I think you are still so "attached" to him cause of your Chiron conjunct his Sun square your Neptune. It looks like you both found a karmic accomplishment in this relationship, as the relationship may have healed unsolved individual issues and as the karmic purpose was accomplished, you parted ways to follow each a different destiny upon that "healing". But clearly, that accomplishment is something so important that will keep your bond behind time and space. He seemed to have an emotional wound to heal through you before getting aware of his spiritual path (north node in 12th), you had a wound in relationship matters (chiron in libra square netpune) hindering you to find your true soulmate beyond idealization, and he seemed to be there to "open your eyes" somehow and shed a light on your true direction as well.In the composite, the fated/karmic purpose is also clear, the nodes (+ north node in 12th) are square to Sun/Venus, and Vertex is square the axis. Again, this looks like there was an higher purpose in your meeting, and the Vertex worked in order to accomplish such higher purpose, not in order to keep you together, even though your bond feels "for ever".With Sun/Juno opposite Moon (and square the nodes) you clearly felt like "promised spouses". It all clearly looks intense and romantic. The Juno/Jupiter midpoint though is conjunct Mars (in 12th) and quincunx to Saturn... this literally points to him leaving you for something (or someone) else, likely his spiritual mission, if I have got it right (mars is in 12th), and saturn square jupiter clearly shows that separation was also written in the stars...Uranus/Neptune opposite Venus show there's an platonic love between you two, and with those otherwordly placements of the nodes and vertex you're both likely going to always be idealistically in love with each other :-) ToughPrincessa1997 quote:Originally posted by Stoika7:I believe this is a very karmic relationship. First off, your sun-moon mp conjunct his moon involves also your Vertex opposite his Chiron, AND square to his North Node (12th house) conjunct to your Pluto, so this likely gave such an intense soulmate bond between you two. I think you are still so "attached" to him cause of your Chiron conjunct his Sun square your Neptune. It looks like you both found a karmic accomplishment in this relationship, as the relationship may have healed unsolved individual issues and as the karmic purpose was accomplished, you parted ways to follow each a different destiny upon that "healing". But clearly, that accomplishment is something so important that will keep your bond behind time and space. He seemed to have an emotional wound to heal through you before getting aware of his spiritual path (north node in 12th), you had a wound in relationship matters (chiron in libra square netpune) hindering you to find your true soulmate beyond idealization, and he seemed to be there to "open your eyes" somehow and shed a light on your true direction as well.In the composite, the fated/karmic purpose is also clear, the nodes (+ north node in 12th) are square to Sun/Venus, and Vertex is square the axis. Again, this looks like there was an higher purpose in your meeting, and the Vertex worked in order to accomplish such higher purpose, not in order to keep you together, even though your bond feels "for ever".With Sun/Juno opposite Moon (and square the nodes) you clearly felt like "promised spouses". It all clearly looks intense and romantic. The Juno/Jupiter midpoint though is conjunct Mars (in 12th) and quincunx to Saturn... this literally points to him leaving you for something (or someone) else, likely his spiritual mission, if I have got it right (mars is in 12th), and saturn square jupiter clearly shows that separation was also written in the stars...Uranus/Neptune opposite Venus show there's an platonic love between you two, and with those otherwordly placements of the nodes and vertex you're both likely going to always be idealistically in love with each other :-) Thank you, love♡ this litteraly made me cry this relationship has scarred me for life, but I dont understand what karmic lession it was supposed to cause it Just caused a bunch of heartbrake.. still to this day i cant forget about it.. maybe it was more of his karmic lession than mine because it Just Hurt me and I am still picking up the pieces of my heart from itStoika7So sorry 💙 His Moon as on your sun/moon mp and on your vertex is square to your Pluto, this looks very intense emotionally and has touched you deeply and subconciously, and pluto square moon is a very harsh aspect for letting go... composite chiron square moon also looks painful. You have Saturn in your 7th (conjunct to his IC and opposite his venus) and Chiron in Libra (conjunct his jupiter square your neptune)so it's possible that he didn't "heal" you but triggered some issue of yours in relationship matters (7th house and libra)... look also at your moon in 4th house sextile his Sun and his moon... he deeply touched your emotional sphere maybe linked to your childhood or a very familiar environment... maybe you have a strong idealization of him in this sense.Consider that natal Chiron square to Neptune can give an "addictive" trait, i.e. a subconscious clinging to painful situations/memories, and a hard letting go... Sending you hugs 💙 GrahamOriginally posted by ToughPrincess1997 :- quote:maybe it was more of his karmic lession than mine because it Just Hurt me and I am still picking up the pieces of my heart from itHis natal chart has Saturn + Aquarius/Leo intercepted in 2nd/8th houses (of own/others values). ... This results in Sagittarius/Gemini being duplicated on the cusps of his 12th+1st/6th+7th houses. ... In combination, these interceptions and duplications indicate a karmic issue - manifesting as a problem in his 12th+6th houses, which is adversely affecting the 1st+7th houses (in a way that, until resolved, will prevent him from making EFFECTIVE use of the positive qualities of Saturn+Aquarius+Leo).In the composite, Leo/Aquarius is the MC/IC axis - and Sagittarius/Gemini is the 2nd/8th house axis.So ... it is indeed likely that this relationship is helping him to confront the karmic/interception issue in his own natal chart.And, with regard to your question, my guess/response is ... human nature is such that none of us forget the person who provided us with our first experience of romantic love. ... But, astrology (and embracing the life we were born to live) teaches us why not "letting them go" creates a barrier to our personal development. ToughPrincessa1997 quote:Originally posted by Stoika7:So sorry 💙 His Moon as on your sun/moon mp and on your vertex is square to your Pluto, this looks very intense emotionally and has touched you deeply and subconciously, and pluto square moon is a very harsh aspect for letting go... composite chiron square moon also looks painful. You have Saturn in your 7th (conjunct to his IC and opposite his venus) and Chiron in Libra (conjunct his jupiter square your neptune)so it's possible that he didn't "heal" you but triggered some issue of yours in relationship matters (7th house and libra)... look also at your moon in 4th house sextile his Sun and his moon... he deeply touched your emotional sphere maybe linked to your childhood or a very familiar environment... maybe you have a strong idealization of him in this sense.Consider that natal Chiron square to Neptune can give an "addictive" trait, i.e. a subconscious clinging to painful situations/memories, and a hard letting go... Sending you hugs 💙 Thank you stoika, you are so kind. I wanted to ask you if we will maybe mest again because usually when I dream of someobe so mich I met them.. maybe transits can show that?ToughPrincessa1997Also @todd wpuld love to hear your take on our compositeStoika7You have a strong psychic connection with him, cause the nodes are on the axis and vertex is also square to IC/MC, so it's possible that he's also thinking about you. Maybe you will reconnect cause transiting nodes are going to be square to composite saturn, and transiting jupiter is currently conjunct moon... with the nodes square to saturn, the past is resurfacing... this is why you dream and think of him these days... transiting mercury will be conjunct to comp. mercury in middle january, so maybe that's when you may hear from him. If this happens, remember though that Saturn is quincunx to mars and square to jupiter, so I wouldn't expect a relationship to take off again on a long term basis at this time... transiting nodes square to saturn with those aspects would suggest a definitive detachment instead :-( ToughPrincessa1997 quote:Originally posted by Stoika7:You have a strong psychic connection with him, cause the nodes are on the axis and vertex is also square to IC/MC, so it's possible that he's also thinking about you. Maybe you will reconnect cause transiting nodes are going to be square to composite saturn, and transiting jupiter is currently conjunct moon... with the nodes square to saturn, the past is resurfacing... this is why you dream and think of him these days... transiting mercury will be conjunct to comp. mercury in middle january, so maybe that's when you may hear from him. If this happens, remember though that Saturn is quincunx to mars and square to jupiter, so I wouldn't expect a relationship to take off again on a long term basis at this time... transiting nodes square to saturn with those aspects would suggest a definitive detachment instead :-( Stoika hello, we just saw each other after 4 years, we saw each other 2 times, the connection is too magnetic and powerful, what is going on with our transits? This is too much to bear, we can never stay away from eachorzher please help what is going on?? We are both in other relationships..ToughPrincessa1997Composite chart with transits and progressed comp with transits: http://imgur.com/a/FsKEIIK
In the composite, the fated/karmic purpose is also clear, the nodes (+ north node in 12th) are square to Sun/Venus, and Vertex is square the axis. Again, this looks like there was an higher purpose in your meeting, and the Vertex worked in order to accomplish such higher purpose, not in order to keep you together, even though your bond feels "for ever".With Sun/Juno opposite Moon (and square the nodes) you clearly felt like "promised spouses". It all clearly looks intense and romantic. The Juno/Jupiter midpoint though is conjunct Mars (in 12th) and quincunx to Saturn... this literally points to him leaving you for something (or someone) else, likely his spiritual mission, if I have got it right (mars is in 12th), and saturn square jupiter clearly shows that separation was also written in the stars...Uranus/Neptune opposite Venus show there's an platonic love between you two, and with those otherwordly placements of the nodes and vertex you're both likely going to always be idealistically in love with each other :-)
quote:Originally posted by Stoika7:I believe this is a very karmic relationship. First off, your sun-moon mp conjunct his moon involves also your Vertex opposite his Chiron, AND square to his North Node (12th house) conjunct to your Pluto, so this likely gave such an intense soulmate bond between you two. I think you are still so "attached" to him cause of your Chiron conjunct his Sun square your Neptune. It looks like you both found a karmic accomplishment in this relationship, as the relationship may have healed unsolved individual issues and as the karmic purpose was accomplished, you parted ways to follow each a different destiny upon that "healing". But clearly, that accomplishment is something so important that will keep your bond behind time and space. He seemed to have an emotional wound to heal through you before getting aware of his spiritual path (north node in 12th), you had a wound in relationship matters (chiron in libra square netpune) hindering you to find your true soulmate beyond idealization, and he seemed to be there to "open your eyes" somehow and shed a light on your true direction as well.In the composite, the fated/karmic purpose is also clear, the nodes (+ north node in 12th) are square to Sun/Venus, and Vertex is square the axis. Again, this looks like there was an higher purpose in your meeting, and the Vertex worked in order to accomplish such higher purpose, not in order to keep you together, even though your bond feels "for ever".With Sun/Juno opposite Moon (and square the nodes) you clearly felt like "promised spouses". It all clearly looks intense and romantic. The Juno/Jupiter midpoint though is conjunct Mars (in 12th) and quincunx to Saturn... this literally points to him leaving you for something (or someone) else, likely his spiritual mission, if I have got it right (mars is in 12th), and saturn square jupiter clearly shows that separation was also written in the stars...Uranus/Neptune opposite Venus show there's an platonic love between you two, and with those otherwordly placements of the nodes and vertex you're both likely going to always be idealistically in love with each other :-)
quote:maybe it was more of his karmic lession than mine because it Just Hurt me and I am still picking up the pieces of my heart from it
His natal chart has Saturn + Aquarius/Leo intercepted in 2nd/8th houses (of own/others values). ... This results in Sagittarius/Gemini being duplicated on the cusps of his 12th+1st/6th+7th houses. ... In combination, these interceptions and duplications indicate a karmic issue - manifesting as a problem in his 12th+6th houses, which is adversely affecting the 1st+7th houses (in a way that, until resolved, will prevent him from making EFFECTIVE use of the positive qualities of Saturn+Aquarius+Leo).
In the composite, Leo/Aquarius is the MC/IC axis - and Sagittarius/Gemini is the 2nd/8th house axis.
So ... it is indeed likely that this relationship is helping him to confront the karmic/interception issue in his own natal chart.
And, with regard to your question, my guess/response is ... human nature is such that none of us forget the person who provided us with our first experience of romantic love. ... But, astrology (and embracing the life we were born to live) teaches us why not "letting them go" creates a barrier to our personal development.
quote:Originally posted by Stoika7:So sorry 💙 His Moon as on your sun/moon mp and on your vertex is square to your Pluto, this looks very intense emotionally and has touched you deeply and subconciously, and pluto square moon is a very harsh aspect for letting go... composite chiron square moon also looks painful. You have Saturn in your 7th (conjunct to his IC and opposite his venus) and Chiron in Libra (conjunct his jupiter square your neptune)so it's possible that he didn't "heal" you but triggered some issue of yours in relationship matters (7th house and libra)... look also at your moon in 4th house sextile his Sun and his moon... he deeply touched your emotional sphere maybe linked to your childhood or a very familiar environment... maybe you have a strong idealization of him in this sense.Consider that natal Chiron square to Neptune can give an "addictive" trait, i.e. a subconscious clinging to painful situations/memories, and a hard letting go... Sending you hugs 💙
quote:Originally posted by Stoika7:You have a strong psychic connection with him, cause the nodes are on the axis and vertex is also square to IC/MC, so it's possible that he's also thinking about you. Maybe you will reconnect cause transiting nodes are going to be square to composite saturn, and transiting jupiter is currently conjunct moon... with the nodes square to saturn, the past is resurfacing... this is why you dream and think of him these days... transiting mercury will be conjunct to comp. mercury in middle january, so maybe that's when you may hear from him. If this happens, remember though that Saturn is quincunx to mars and square to jupiter, so I wouldn't expect a relationship to take off again on a long term basis at this time... transiting nodes square to saturn with those aspects would suggest a definitive detachment instead :-(
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