i have the DW conjunction and trine with someone fairly new to my lifemy sun 0° conjuncts his saturn/descendent. my saturn trines 4° his sun.
most sound advice i ever stumbled across for the sun is just continue to be yourself
with my closest, longest friends (lasting 10+ years irregardless of distance apart), and my mother, my father, my brother, i have saturn-luminary conjunctions in synastry:
my best girlfriend #1. her saturn conjuncts my moon (no dw)
best girlfriend #2. my saturn conjuncts her moon (no dw)
mom. my saturn conjuncts her moon (no dw)
dad. his saturn conjuncts my sun (no dw)
brother. his saturn conjuncts my moon (no dw)
best guyfriend. his saturn conjuncts my moon (no dw)
suffice to say, comparably, i’m curious how long this new friend will be around. he and i also have sun-venus sextile DW and moons conjunct
interestingly, when i met this guy, around the same time my dad (also his own saturn return) started stepping it up as a provider-type after being neglectful for like a decade (he offered to pay for my german language courses). i think my mom told my dad about the guy i started seeing and my dad apparently oddly responded to her “i dont want V to become financially dependent to a man”. he’s notoriously stingy
i find it funny how serious he took it. also that this guy does happen to enjoy paying for all our dates (which is not a piece of info i even shared with anyone) my dad’s saturn vs his saturn lol
also the guy offered to teach me french (his mother tongue) because my dad didn’t teach us french (his mother tongue too) after we moved away from Quebec in my childhood. and i was like, “no.. it’s not your responsibility. that’s my dad’s problem to fix.”
my dad not teaching me or my brother french has been a family wide contention all our lives, because my dad’s side of the family doesn’t speak english well. when i try to communicate with my grandmother, my dad has to translate for us, so comprehension is at a minimum. really interesting to notice how the same Saturn is playing out here. meeting a frenchman who eventually (if ever becoming serious) i would naturally learn french for, aside from already having a personal reason to do so, wanting to correct the consequences of my father’s decisions with his family.
i have wondered who this guy is for me. i have taken his entrance into my life seriously but god knows what for. i’m just paying attention; detached. i wonder if he’ll offer me commitment. it has come up for him and he’s been battling with it. transit-saturn makes it’s final conjunction to his DSC next friday. we met on the week last year that it first exact, as well as tr. north node was conjuncting his venus.
there’s been a clingy ex (7 years, go figure) girlfriend still trying to dominate his life under the guise of “friendship”; i wouldn’t be surprised if she even pulls out the “we’re soulmates; together forever” card. because he’s referred to their longstanding connection as “spiritual, no longer romantic”. imo i believe Saturn is gonna pawn that relationship once and for all. 😬 I have her birth chart: they are not compatible. plus a heavily neptunian composite. rude awakening. we’re each 30-31 now; the rules of saturn’s sense of responsibility has radically changed, finally matured. i feel bad for saturn folks who entered “serious” romantic-bonds long before their saturn return. been there myself; the lessons are brutal—dogmatic.
i broke up with him once, we didnt speak for a couple months, because of her actively and covertly trying to sabotage our new relationship, to which he was ignorantly allowing. when she found out he met someone, because he informed her, she f*cking flew out here to see him. i then left him without much of an explanation (because his personal life is not my business), i told him “live and let live” and i bounced. we reconnected last week, and he apologized for pushing me away, and quietly admitted that he’s been depressed and very regretful for my departure; that he hasn’t been able to be with any other women the same way since. lol whatever and duh
i got a sense they may have gotten into something yesterday. he mentioned they had a phone call. somewhere our convo *randomly* segwayed to me saying “Honesty is the best policy” to which he quickly replied “yes but the truth can also hurt people’s feelings…” 👀 and i laughed “oh-well, perhaps. but, the Truth sets people free. sometimes i wonder if i even have ‘feelings’.”
because i know the underlying astrology, with this transit saturn, i’m like passively keeping a safe distance (from this bomb site) all the while mildly entertained... totally patiently letting saturn handle the situation in his life, me cooly observing.
he told me, he now suddenly has problems with his molars. i almost wanted to warn him to “…be careful” (omen) 🪐 but i restrained. 👀🍿
luckily he has transit Jupiter trining his ASC, sextiling his DSC simultaneously. When one door closes, another door opens.
@93nov i’m 1993 too. a Saturn DW is not so common for me, as i listed in my most significant real relationships. and i’m highly saturnian—Saturn conjunct Sun in Aquarius. Capricorn Moon. Capricorn (tropical) Descendent. Even a true double whammy is rare for me.
i kind of get a weird sense that i’ve met the father of my future child. which would relate to the “impossible to break bond” karma described by Linda. like even if we were to hypothetically separate in some hypothetical future, that there might still be *something* solar/life-giving/fatherly between us. the sun rules the natural fifth house.
considering their shared saturn position in regards to me, i was comparing his and my dad’s chart together. it was nice to see they have a sun+mars+jupiter+mercury conjunction trine moon in composite. this guy doesnt have a dad of his own and his own mother is much older 15+ years than my parents; and hypothetically if we were to get serious enough, in-law harmony is so important to me. (traditional) whereas my mom and him in composite have Moon+Venus+Mars+Mercury+Jupiter. even he and my brother have Sun+Jupiter (wide).
considering no father and an aging mother, if there’s ever marriage of families involved, he would be adopted. i get the feeling they (my parents) would even prefer him over me haha. although he’s technically just a fling (though not according to saturn), my mom has gone to bat for him any time i vent about the stupid situation i’ve dealt with. she doesn’t even know him.
at least they can speak french with him
on the flipside, he complains how woo-woo his mother is; how she talks about “energies” and astrology and chakras and acupuncture and healing the land with crystals. lmao i’ve got her in the bag. (no, i havent revealed to him i’m an astrologer or karmayogi🤫; in fact when he guessed my sign, i played dumb about astrology. “a rising sign? whats that??” 🎭 he blushed out of embarrassment )
Rule of Saturn: Choose Your Battles Wisely 😉