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T O P I C R E V I E WStoika7Hi all. Someone I know pretty well is going to marry a woman I don't know so well... they're a couple since three years and they look very happy. Then I saw their chart and I am worried about the Composite Venus square Neptune and Uranus 7th house square Sun.What do you think? Is this going to last?I'd wish to have a more detached take than mine on this. Thank you.Composite EmGemHi Stoika!Congrats to your friends! 🥂 I just wanted to assure that that I’ve seen married couples, including my friends, with sun square Uranus in the composite. So it can totally work EmGemDp EmGemP.S the blue person has almost the exact same chart as my recent love lol ❤️ And omg I also have similar placements to the red 😳Stoika7 quote:Originally posted by EmGem:Hi Stoika!Congrats to your friends! 🥂 I just wanted to assure that that I’ve seen married couples, including my friends, with sun square Uranus in the composite. So it can totally work Ciao EmGem! Thank you :-) Yes, I know Uranus square Sun can still work out if the two are free indipendent spirits :-D The Neptune square Venus is what concerns me the most, actually...Oh, what a coincidence that you and your loved one's charts look so similar to these! LOL <3 Bismarck2Post the synastry grid, if you please. Also, could you include asteroids such as amor, valentine, persephone, proserpina, osiris and isis? Here's the numbers you can use: 763,447,1221,433,16,1923,42,399,26,Honestly, the synastry doesn't look very promising. Stoika7 quote:Originally posted by Bismarck2:Post the synastry grid, if you please. Also, could you include asteroids such as amor, valentine, persephone, proserpina, osiris and isis? Here's the numbers you can use: 763,447,1221,433,16,1923,42,399,26,Honestly, the synastry doesn't look very promising. Hi Bismarck2, I agree with you. I'd like to understand what's wrong here, since apparently they look happy... but I have weird feelings about her. I'd rather hear what others think though, before explaining what my doubts are... cause I'm not sure it's just me or there's some truth in my doubts... thanks!Bismarck2 quote:Originally posted by Stoika7: Hi Bismarck2, I agree with you. I'd like to understand what's wrong here, since apparently they look happy... but I have weird feelings about her. I'd rather hear what others think though, before explaining what my doubts are... cause I'm not sure it's just me or there's some truth in my doubts... thanks!Synastry with asteroids added (he's outside)Sorry for the inconvenience, but please check the 'to all objects' box to see aspects between asteroids: That said, they actually do have some really good asteroid-personal planet connections, as well as chiron aspects. - Moons trine eachother- Mars quintiles moon- Sun and Venus trine- Uranus squares Mars- Jupiter quintiles Sun- Valentine conjunct moon- Cupido trine Sun, bQ Mercury, and square Venus- Pluto conjunct eros- Chiron conjunct Moon and opposite Mercury - Moon trine ASC - Valentine opposite ASCNo pluto/persephone aspects, but maybe pluto aspects proserpina. Stoika7 quote:Originally posted by Bismarck2: Sorry for the inconvenience, but please check the 'to all objects' box to see aspects between asteroids OMG, I did, and it looks crazy, LOL!! Are you sure you want to see it? quote:That said, they actually do have some really good asteroid-personal planet connections, as well as chiron aspects. [/B]yes, but do you really think those asteroids aspects are so relevant when you have Uranus square Mars, Saturn square Mars/Venus, Mercury opposite Mercury... and Neptune square Venus in Composite, for working out on long term?Bismarck2 quote:Originally posted by Stoika7: yes, but do you really think those asteroids aspects are so relevant when you have Uranus square Mars, Saturn square Mars/Venus, Mercury opposite Mercury... and Neptune square Venus in Composite, for working out on long term?Honestly, I still am not sure how powerful asteroids are, but several people such as IQ swear by them. You should absolutely post the grid though. You should also post the composite WITH the asteroids. Seeing just the planet-to-planet connections though, I'm not surprised they got together. Stoika7 quote:Originally posted by Bismarck2: Honestly, I still am not sure how powerful asteroids are, but several people such as IQ swear by them. You should absolutely post the grid though. You should also post the composite WITH the asteroids. Seeing just the planet-to-planet connections though, I'm not surprised they got together. I did post the grid, can you see it? What aspects do you refer to that don't surprise you they got together? I'm mostly wondering about the negative ones I've mentioned... btw, I have also noticed they have Moon conjunct Nessus in composite, which actually scared me!!Hikaru29 quote:Originally posted by Bismarck2:- Uranus squares Mars Why is this a good connection?Hikaru29@Stoika,Being a strong believer in Moon connections, I believe Moon trine Moon, trine Asc, sextile Jupiter, conjunct Valentine (all the happy Moon aspects) contribute to their happy connection. But I see strong clash of wills when they're in disagreement:Mars in exact squares and in fixed signs + the Marses also square/conjunct UranusMercury opposite Mercury - opposing views (the Scorpio Mercury can spit venom) Venus quincunx Venus - don't understand each others' love styles/values (Again I believe the Scorpio Venus will be more spiteful)As for the Composite Venus square Neptune, I believe the Saturn conjunction can ground them somewhat. cUranus square Sun may simply show a very unusual/independent relationship (my parents have this square). They may require plenty of space from each other but I'm worried their cPluto square Moon won't allow it. It will demand intensity but this will turn out very stressful. Furthermore, Moon squares Mars and conjunct Nessus... adding more emotional stress. Bismarck2 quote:Originally posted by Hikaru29: Why is this a good connection?I never said it was good, but people do find it attractive. Bismarck2 quote:Originally posted by Stoika7: I did post the grid, can you see it? What aspects do you refer to that don't surprise you they got together? I'm mostly wondering about the negative ones I've mentioned... btw, I have also noticed they have Moon conjunct Nessus in composite, which actually scared me!!These are great aspects: - Moons trine eachother- Mars quintiles moon- Sun and Venus trine- Jupiter quintiles Sun- Pluto conjunct eros- Moon trine ASCBut yah, I'd be worried about all the things you mentioned. Stoika7 quote:Originally posted by Hikaru29:@Stoika,Being a strong believer in Moon connections, I believe Moon trine Moon, trine Asc, sextile Jupiter, conjunct Valentine (all the happy Moon aspects) contribute to their happy connection. But I see strong clash of wills when they're in disagreement:Mars in exact squares and in fixed signs + the Marses also square/conjunct UranusMercury opposite Mercury - opposing views (the Scorpio Mercury can spit venom) Venus quincunx Venus - don't understand each others' love styles/values (Again I believe the Scorpio Venus will be more spiteful)As for the Composite Venus square Neptune, I believe the Saturn conjunction can ground them somewhat. cUranus square Sun may simply show a very unusual/independent relationship (my parents have this square). They may require plenty of space from each other but I'm worried their cPluto square Moon won't allow it. It will demand intensity but this will turn out very stressful. Furthermore, Moon squares Mars and conjunct Nessus... adding more emotional stress. Hi Hikaru29! Thanks so much for your take! I think exactly same as you wrote, about the good and bad aspects... The Comp. Moon conjunct Nessus square Mars worries me... and in this picture, I don't like the Neptune square Venus... she's from a different culture, and they spend long periods separated cause of professional reasons, so this is maybe what Uranus square Sun is about... I suspect that those challenging aspects are smoothed by the fact they spend time separated and are pretty independent persons... and the Comp. Saturn conjunct Venus is grounded, as you say. But, honestly... there's something I don't like about her, I have the feeling she's manipulative and he looks a little too "blinded", always putting her on a pedestal or so, which is ok of course if you're in love, but still I've got weird feelings. I'd like to know more about her Nessus conjunct his Lilith in synastry and the Comp. Moon conjunct Nessus.......
What do you think? Is this going to last?I'd wish to have a more detached take than mine on this. Thank you.
Composite
quote:Originally posted by EmGem:Hi Stoika!Congrats to your friends! 🥂 I just wanted to assure that that I’ve seen married couples, including my friends, with sun square Uranus in the composite. So it can totally work
Ciao EmGem! Thank you :-) Yes, I know Uranus square Sun can still work out if the two are free indipendent spirits :-D The Neptune square Venus is what concerns me the most, actually...Oh, what a coincidence that you and your loved one's charts look so similar to these! LOL <3
Honestly, the synastry doesn't look very promising.
quote:Originally posted by Bismarck2:Post the synastry grid, if you please. Also, could you include asteroids such as amor, valentine, persephone, proserpina, osiris and isis? Here's the numbers you can use: 763,447,1221,433,16,1923,42,399,26,Honestly, the synastry doesn't look very promising.
Hi Bismarck2, I agree with you. I'd like to understand what's wrong here, since apparently they look happy... but I have weird feelings about her. I'd rather hear what others think though, before explaining what my doubts are... cause I'm not sure it's just me or there's some truth in my doubts... thanks!
quote:Originally posted by Stoika7: Hi Bismarck2, I agree with you. I'd like to understand what's wrong here, since apparently they look happy... but I have weird feelings about her. I'd rather hear what others think though, before explaining what my doubts are... cause I'm not sure it's just me or there's some truth in my doubts... thanks!Synastry with asteroids added (he's outside)
Synastry with asteroids added (he's outside)
Sorry for the inconvenience, but please check the 'to all objects' box to see aspects between asteroids:
That said, they actually do have some really good asteroid-personal planet connections, as well as chiron aspects.
- Moons trine eachother- Mars quintiles moon- Sun and Venus trine- Uranus squares Mars- Jupiter quintiles Sun- Valentine conjunct moon- Cupido trine Sun, bQ Mercury, and square Venus- Pluto conjunct eros- Chiron conjunct Moon and opposite Mercury - Moon trine ASC - Valentine opposite ASC
No pluto/persephone aspects, but maybe pluto aspects proserpina.
quote:Originally posted by Bismarck2: Sorry for the inconvenience, but please check the 'to all objects' box to see aspects between asteroids
OMG, I did, and it looks crazy, LOL!! Are you sure you want to see it?
quote:That said, they actually do have some really good asteroid-personal planet connections, as well as chiron aspects. [/B]
yes, but do you really think those asteroids aspects are so relevant when you have Uranus square Mars, Saturn square Mars/Venus, Mercury opposite Mercury... and Neptune square Venus in Composite, for working out on long term?
quote:Originally posted by Stoika7: yes, but do you really think those asteroids aspects are so relevant when you have Uranus square Mars, Saturn square Mars/Venus, Mercury opposite Mercury... and Neptune square Venus in Composite, for working out on long term?
Honestly, I still am not sure how powerful asteroids are, but several people such as IQ swear by them. You should absolutely post the grid though. You should also post the composite WITH the asteroids.
Seeing just the planet-to-planet connections though, I'm not surprised they got together.
quote:Originally posted by Bismarck2: Honestly, I still am not sure how powerful asteroids are, but several people such as IQ swear by them. You should absolutely post the grid though. You should also post the composite WITH the asteroids. Seeing just the planet-to-planet connections though, I'm not surprised they got together.
I did post the grid, can you see it? What aspects do you refer to that don't surprise you they got together? I'm mostly wondering about the negative ones I've mentioned... btw, I have also noticed they have Moon conjunct Nessus in composite, which actually scared me!!
quote:Originally posted by Bismarck2:- Uranus squares Mars
Why is this a good connection?
But I see strong clash of wills when they're in disagreement:Mars in exact squares and in fixed signs + the Marses also square/conjunct UranusMercury opposite Mercury - opposing views (the Scorpio Mercury can spit venom) Venus quincunx Venus - don't understand each others' love styles/values (Again I believe the Scorpio Venus will be more spiteful)
As for the Composite Venus square Neptune, I believe the Saturn conjunction can ground them somewhat. cUranus square Sun may simply show a very unusual/independent relationship (my parents have this square). They may require plenty of space from each other but I'm worried their cPluto square Moon won't allow it. It will demand intensity but this will turn out very stressful. Furthermore, Moon squares Mars and conjunct Nessus... adding more emotional stress.
quote:Originally posted by Hikaru29: Why is this a good connection?
I never said it was good, but people do find it attractive.
quote:Originally posted by Stoika7: I did post the grid, can you see it? What aspects do you refer to that don't surprise you they got together? I'm mostly wondering about the negative ones I've mentioned... btw, I have also noticed they have Moon conjunct Nessus in composite, which actually scared me!!
These are great aspects:
- Moons trine eachother- Mars quintiles moon- Sun and Venus trine- Jupiter quintiles Sun- Pluto conjunct eros- Moon trine ASC
But yah, I'd be worried about all the things you mentioned.
quote:Originally posted by Hikaru29:@Stoika,Being a strong believer in Moon connections, I believe Moon trine Moon, trine Asc, sextile Jupiter, conjunct Valentine (all the happy Moon aspects) contribute to their happy connection. But I see strong clash of wills when they're in disagreement:Mars in exact squares and in fixed signs + the Marses also square/conjunct UranusMercury opposite Mercury - opposing views (the Scorpio Mercury can spit venom) Venus quincunx Venus - don't understand each others' love styles/values (Again I believe the Scorpio Venus will be more spiteful)As for the Composite Venus square Neptune, I believe the Saturn conjunction can ground them somewhat. cUranus square Sun may simply show a very unusual/independent relationship (my parents have this square). They may require plenty of space from each other but I'm worried their cPluto square Moon won't allow it. It will demand intensity but this will turn out very stressful. Furthermore, Moon squares Mars and conjunct Nessus... adding more emotional stress.
Hi Hikaru29! Thanks so much for your take! I think exactly same as you wrote, about the good and bad aspects... The Comp. Moon conjunct Nessus square Mars worries me... and in this picture, I don't like the Neptune square Venus... she's from a different culture, and they spend long periods separated cause of professional reasons, so this is maybe what Uranus square Sun is about... I suspect that those challenging aspects are smoothed by the fact they spend time separated and are pretty independent persons... and the Comp. Saturn conjunct Venus is grounded, as you say. But, honestly... there's something I don't like about her, I have the feeling she's manipulative and he looks a little too "blinded", always putting her on a pedestal or so, which is ok of course if you're in love, but still I've got weird feelings. I'd like to know more about her Nessus conjunct his Lilith in synastry and the Comp. Moon conjunct Nessus.......
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