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Kerosene | I find it fascinating when people severely transform their looks!!! Like I knew a friend who transitioned and ended up becoming a stunningly beautiful girl like her body is to die for she has an amazingly feminine figure of course thanks to surgery and hormones. I'm still in awe around her because I remember her before as this mousey little thing. She's an aries sun capricorn moon and Aqua asc. So I was wondering do we look at transits' or the natal chart, like maybe your natal chart represents what you end up becoming. |
FireMoon | My first thought is definitely Pluto even though that's cliche... Pluto-Asc, Pluto-Sun... Transits or natal Were Pluto and Uranus transiting her Aries and Cap planets? I think Cap-Cancer placements and especially Aqua can end up disliking or just not caring about the gender roles they're forced into if other things support this |
Kerosene | She has asc+saturn and square pluto exact. Maybe it is Pluto! |
vickymadness | As transits, Pluto triggers change yes. But natally, if it's a natural transformation with time it's definitely Saturn's domain. I remember I was plain Jane and so skinny, now I massively changed. Saturn on ASC acts literally like the caterpillar transformation. When t-Pluto first conjunct my ASC ruler (Uranus) I started to lift and bulk, and that took care of my skinny physique ... otherwise it's all Saturn's work. Also, Aquarius/Gemini risers can nearly pull off any look ... it's like day-to-day transformation. |
LeeLoo2014 | Vicky, what about Saturn opposite ASC? Would it be the same? |
vickymadness | I'm not sure but maybe? I think with the oppositions maybe you have to work for it. Like I have Venus "square" Saturn, this gives potential for beauty but I had to work for it ... being fit, taking care of my skin, and so on. |
LeeLoo2014 | Aha...interesting. |
FireMoon | quote: Originally posted by Kerosene: She has asc+saturn and square pluto exact.Maybe it is Pluto!
Ooo yeah Aqua Asc conj Saturn and square Pluto would give a "heavy responsibility" to change despite what society thinks about it. Good for her! I have Pluto trine Asc and sextile Sun and have the Cancer "feminine" looks that throw ppl off. Innocent and sweet yeah right lol. I kinda want to do something drastic with my hair or fashion or something but progressed moon in libra has me so indecisive about everything I hate it. Maybe once it moves into Scorpio I actually will make more bold changes... |
vickymadness | quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Aha...interesting.
Usually with saturn hard work always pays off. My friend has venus conjunct her ASC and she can't seem to loose weight/be fit with everything she does, it's like she's stuck with whatever she was born with. I'm glad I have saturn and not venus |
ail221 | Sun/Moon/Asc progressing into a new sign. |
Supreme cT | quote: Originally posted by ail221: Sun/Moon/Asc progressing into a new sign.
I agree! Its pretty ironic how now my progressed sun and moon are in sagittarius and my ascendant changed that now im all about hittin the gym hard and transforming my body |
BellaFenice | I'm going through a Pluto conjunct Saturn transit. Have made some changes to appearance- nothing drastic. Other things are planned for the near future though. Its not necessarily a vanity thing, but rather letting go of limitations and what 'I should be' and become who I want to be. |
coolingembers | I do this a lot! This time last year i was 130 pounds, had waist length blonde hair, and dressed pretty conservatively. Now i have a pixie cut, fire red hair, am 105 pounds, and have taken to dressing a lot differently.... I like severe transformations and switching it up (: . I dont know what aspects cause this though... Im mostly water, a lot of scorpio influence. Hmmm. As for progressions... My sun/moon/rising hadnt changed when I decided to do this... |
Ceridwen | tr Pluto conjunct pr ASC did it for me, and before that tr Pluto had been conjunct n Venus. But the transformation did not set in before tr Pluto reached pr ASC, (3 degree orb to n Venus by now) |
LovelyKitty | I have a Pluto in first house , same sign as my sun. I have a plastic surgery and when I was young I really want to change myself to be better in every way , not just study, carrier, but my physical too. I know it sounds shallow because everyone said...you should enjoy your truely beauty . I don't want just "beauty" but I want something beyond that. It's seems like pluto in natal expresses his function quite well in the Self-House. Other aspects - pluto sext. Venus(leo) - pluto conjunct lilith - saturn conj. Ac and Sun
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PlutoSurvivor | If it's Saturn, then there would be a regular cycle activating the urge to change. With Pluto there may be a once and done transformation. |
ail221 | quote: Originally posted by Supreme cT: I agree! Its pretty ironic how now my progressed sun and moon are in sagittarius and my ascendant changed that now im all about hittin the gym hard and transforming my body
Same here a few months ago my moon progressed into Aries my fitness level went up and I started looking more strong as opposed to watery with my previous progressed Pisces moon. |
Comatoes | Moon progressed in Capricorn, don't like to eat much food anymore...very health conscious now. I hope this attitude stays as my Moon progress into Aquarius. |
Leo-Cancer98 | quote: Originally posted by LovelyKitty: I have a Pluto in first house , same sign as my sun. I have a plastic surgery and when I was young I really want to change myself to be better in every way , not just study, carrier, but my physical too. I know it sounds shallow because everyone said...you should enjoy your truely beauty . I don't want just "beauty" but I want something beyond that. It's seems like pluto in natal expresses his function quite well in the Self-House.Other aspects - pluto sext. Venus(leo) - pluto conjunct lilith - saturn conj. Ac and Sun
I wanna transform my beauty too! I have Sun trine Pluto in the 6th House
------------------ Cancer Rising 2nd House Leo Sun 3rd House Leo Mercury 6th House Sagittarius Moon & Pluto 1st House Cancer Venus & Mars 9th House Pisces Jupiter conjunct MC. |