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T O P I C R E V I E WGlaucusI have been wondering about the asteroids, Odysseus and Ulysses that have to do with long distance travel,far away from home,foreignersOdysseus/Ulysses was the King of Ithaca who fought in the Trojan War. He was the craftiest of the Greeks. He went through trials and tribulations in his 10 year voyage from home after 10 years in fighting in Troy. Altogether he was gone for 20 years from his home.I was wondering if Odysseus and Ulysses have to do with long journeys,far away from home,foreignersIn my natal chart:Ulysses in 27'09 Capricorn in 5thtrine Juno in 26'26 Virgo in 1stsesquiquadrate/semisquare MC/IC - '55Geocentric North Ulysses Node in 25'07 Gemini in 10thtrine Mars in 25'54 Aquarius in 6thGeocentric South Ulysses Node in 10'05 Sagittarius in 3rdoppose/conjunct MC/IC in 11'14 Gemini/Sagittarius(9 minutes over the orb)Right Ascension Ulysses in 4'03 Aquariustrine Right Ascension Transneptunian Dwarf Planet candidate Varuna in 2'57 Gemini Rsquare Right Ascension Transneptunian Dwarf Planet candidate Sedna in 3'46 Taurus Rsquare Right Ascension Sun in 3'02 Scorpiosquare Right Ascension Transneptunian Dwarf Planet candidate Quaoar in 1'16 Scorpiosquare Right Ascension Transneptunian Dwarf Planet candidate Ixion in 6'53 Scorpio(T-square of Ulysses square the opposition of Sun-Quaoar-Ixion and Sedna)Odysseus in 11'10 Aquarius in 5thconjunct/oppose Lunar Nodes in 10'30 Aquarius/Leo in 5th/11thtrine/sextile MC/IC in 11'14 Gemini/Sagittariussextile Chiron in 10'32 Aries R in 8thsextile Transneptunian Dwarf Planet Eris in 12'15 Aries R in 8thquincunx Transneptunian Dwarf Planet Haumea in 11'17 Virgo in 12thGeocentric North Odysseus Node in 10'06 Scorpio in 3rdsquare Lunar Nodes in 10'30 Aquarius/Leo in 5th/11thsquare Odysseus in 11'10 Aquarius in 5thGeocentric South Odysseus Node in 12'24 Taurustrine/sextile Asc/Desc in 13'27 Virgo/Pisces(3 minutes over the orb)Heliocentric Odysseus Nodes in 10'50 Scorpio/Taurussquare Lunar Nodes in 10'30 Aquarius/Leo in 5th/11thsquare Odysseus in 11'10 Aquarius in 5thI was in the US Navy, and that means that I sailed,traveled to other countries.If Ulysses and Odysseus means long journeys,being far away from how, then definitely seems like relationships,romance,children could be connected tolong journeys,being far away from home,foreignersBoth Ulysses and Odysseus are in my 5th house.In my next Solar Return chart:Odysseus in 27'25 Taurus R in 4thoppose/conjunct MC/IC in 24'49 Scorpio/Taurussquare Neptune in 25'56 Aquarius R in 1stsquare Chiron in 26'06 Aquarius R in 1stsextile Uranus in 27'15 Pisces R in 2ndUlysses in 5'53 Gemini R in 4thconjunct Natal Saturn in 5'08 Gemini R in Natal 9thtrine/sextile Asc/Desc in 3'57 Aquarius/Leoquincunx Sun in 5'20 Scorpio in 9thquincunx Venus in 5'36 Scorpio R in 9thquincunx Ceres in 5'51 Capricorn in 11th(A yod of Ulysses quincunx the sextile of Sun-Venus R and Ceres)Both Odysseus and Ulysses are in 4th in Solar ReturnThe Odysseus and Ulysses seems to finetune the emphasis on long distance travel,far away from home,and foreigners that my strong Jupiter/9th house/Sagittarius theme seems to suggest. Raymond------------------No..I am not a Virgo.Developmental Neurodiversity Association facebook group. http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=ts Agent_009Interesting topic Glaucus!So what's your conclusion to your findings?? do you move around much nowadays??My Natal (Libra 1H):Odysseus - 18' Sagg (3H).Ulysses - 7' Sagg (3H).Aspects:Odys sq. Sun (2) in 12HOdys cj. Neptune (4) in 3HUlys semi-sq. Moon in 4HUlys sext. Mercury (2) in 1HUlys trine Mars (3) in 10/11HUlys sext. Saturn (2) in 1HUlys semi-sq. Pluto in 1H________________________My Solar Return 2010 Chart (Libra 1H):Odysseus - 29" Taurus (8H).Ulysses - 7" Gemini (9H)Aspects:Odys trine Moon (5) in 12HOdys quincunx Venus (1) in 1HOdys sext Jupiter (0) in 6HOdys sext Uranus (0) in 6HOdys sq. Neptune (3) in 5HOdys sq. Chiron (2) in 5HUlys trine Asc. (3) in 1HUlys trine Moon (3) in 12HUlys sq. Mercury (1) in 11/12HUlys bQ Venus (0) in 1HUlys trine Saturn (2) in 12/1HI'm not sure if that shows anything in particular. I guess I do travel a bit more than your average person. 2 Psychics told me I'll be traveling a lot more in the future cuz of work. GlaucusNo.....not at allIt was a different story when I was in the US Navy though.As the non profit organization really gets going and expands, there will be a lot of travel as I advocate neurodiversity.I was wondering about long distance travel,faraway from home,foreigners in my next solar return that's on October 28thI will have strong Jupiter/Sagittarius/9th house theme. I was wondering about Ulysses,Odysseus finetuning that to put more emphasis on long distance travel,far away from home,foreigners.I also wonder about relationships,romance in connection to long distance travel,far away from home,foreigners in generalI have no conclusions. That's why I said that I was wondering.I wanted people to share any insights that they might have about Odysseus and Ulysses as well as any other asteroids that may have to do with long distance travel.Raymond------------------No..I am not a Virgo.Developmental Neurodiversity Association facebook group. http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=ts Ami AnneJust a thought .If you had them in the 5th house in the natal, perhaps, you traveled for pleasure before--if you could call the Navy,pleasure However, in the solar return, you are traveling for a deep, heart(home) like reason---your Foundation which IS your home and the dearest thing to you,now, it seems.------------------Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend.Ami Annedp.Glaucus"Just a thought .If you had them in the 5th house in the natal, perhaps, you traveled for pleasure before--if you could call the Navy,pleasure "yeah.....makes sensebut my Odysseus is in 11'10 Aquarius conjunct the North Lunar Node in 10'30 Aquarius in 5th and trine the Midheaven in 11'14 Gemini that would indicate making connections,associations with others via career so yeah....business can be involvedof course, 5th house is romanceso romances involving long distance travel,far away from home,foreignersinterestinglyI have Tyr in 11'09 Libra in 2nd trine the Odysseus-North Lunar Node conjunction and MidheavenTyr is named after the Norse God of WarThat fits perfectly with militaryI have Poseidon in 12'42 Aquarius conjunct the Odysseus-North Lunar Node conjunction and trine MidheavenPoseidon is named after the Greek God Ruler of the Seas. That fits perfectly with the navyIt's amazing how charts play out....especially when you consider the asteroidsJuno, the major asteroid associated with marriage,committed relationships,partnerships trine Ulysses in 5th in my natal chart seem to suggest marriage,committed relationship,partnership in connection to long distance travel,far away from home,foreigners with 5th house children is involvedMy Industria is in 26'45 Capricorn in 5th, and so my Ulysses is conjunct that.That would seem to indicate that long distance travel,far away from home,foreigners is connected to business.Juno trines the conjunction, and so marriage,committed relationships,partnerships can be involved.Raymond------------------No..I am not a Virgo.Developmental Neurodiversity Association facebook group. http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=ts GlaucusI checked Industria in my next solar returnto see if there are any connections to my 9th house which could indicate travel for businessbut I forgot to leave out Poseidon and Tyr, and I found out some very interesting things involving those asteroidsIn my next Solar Return:Industria in 13'20 Taurus R in 3rdoppose Mercury in 12'55 Scorpio in 9thtrine Poseidon in 16'10 Capricorn in 12thsextile Moon in 14'23 Cancer in 6th That seems like long distance travel,far away from home,foreigners connected to business,work involving communications. Poseidon looks like could mean going "overseas"I don't see myself taking a cruise of any kind. I also found out that in my next Solar Return:Tyr in 6'30 Scorpio in 9thconjunct Sun in 5'20 Scorpio in 9thconjunct Venus in 5'36 Scorpio R in 9thsquare Ascendant in 3'57 Aquarius sextile Ceres in 5'51 Capricorn in 11th sextile/trine Lunar Nodes in 4'26 Capricorn/Cancer Direct in 11th/5thquincunx Ulysses in 5'53 Gemini in 4th(A yod of Ulysses quincunx the sextile of Sun-Venus-Tyr conjunction and Ceres)It also seems that there could be fighting with somebody that I love and care about that involve long distance travel,far away from home,foreigners.There could be the possibility of violence in connection to long distance travelOn the positive side, Tyr could be passionate,assertive,and action-oriented, similar to Mars.What's interesting too is that there is also Mars in 0'26 Sagittarius conjunct Eros in 0'23 Sagittarius in 10th. That seems to be similar to the Sun-Venus-Tyr conjunction quincunx Ulysses.Raymond------------------No..I am not a Virgo.Developmental Neurodiversity Association facebook group. http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=ts belgzHi glaucus,What number are this asteroids? I'm a frequent traveller and I have lived overseas several times. I wonder where it is in my chart. I just can't look through the asteroid list on my phone.Happy Dragon/Happy Dragon/GlaucusWhat about Declination, Right Ascension, Geocentric and Heliocentric Ulysses and Odysseus nodes. Those are also relevant and could even show a strong pattern,theme. For example:I have Heliocentric Odysseus Nodes,Geocentric North Odysseus Node square my Odysseus-North Lunar Node conjunction and South Lunar Node. I have Geocentric South Ulysses Node sextile/trine all that.all aspects are within 1 degree orbalso if you use this site, all you have to do is type the name and don't have to worry about the numbers http://www.true-node.com/eph1/ btw the orbs that I use for asteroids3 degrees for conjunction,opposition,trine,square 2 degrees for sextile1 degree for semisextile,quincunx,semisquare,sesquiquadrate,quintile,biquintilegeocentric asteroids nodes 1 degree for all the ptolemaic aspect except sextile1/2 degree for sextile unless its aspecting an axis like lunar nodes,MC/IC,Asc/Desc,East Point/West Point,Antivertex/VertexI don't look at any minor aspectsheliocentric asteroid nodes 1 degree for all the ptolemaic aspectsI don't look at any minor aspectsI use the same orbs for the centaurs and transneptunians toobut I'd probably use slightly wider orbs for the dwarf planets (Eris,Pluto-Charon,Makemake,Haumea,and Ceres)and the named dwarf planet candidates (Sedna,Orcus,Quaoar,Varuna,and Ixion)Raymond------------------No..I am not a Virgo.Developmental Neurodiversity Association facebook group. http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=ts katatonicinteresting! i have odysseus in 2nd widely conj my NN(5 deg) and opposing Neptune/squaring mars(both by 1 deg). it trines my vesta and merlin by 2 and 3 degs...while ulysses (7th) conjs juno and asteroids angel/atlantis.i spent 21 years abroad and did a LOT of travelling during that time(i worked on the road)... i married a foreigner AND my daughter's moon conjuncts my ulysses and juno ...the only thing i have in 9th house is musa! this fits a musician spending time on the road to a T...edit: going back to locate musa, i have now come up with ulysses conj odysseus at 12 and 13 aries...not sure what happened there, tho i assume i put in the wrong asteroid code! except that it said ullysses 10 leo 5 minutes ago!!??? going daft...well everything is much the same except now, by connection through angel/atlantis at 10/11 leo, instead of conjuncting my juno it loosely trines it. the vesta connection remains, and now it is opposing neptune too.amowls*My mom moved to the other side of the world when she married my father (she is from Malaysia and came to America when she was 30). She has Odysseus at 20 Libra and Ulysses at 22 Libra, both retrograde in her 8th. They don't seem like they figure strongly in her chart whatsoever. They square her Jupiter/Uranus conjunction and oppose her Mars.My dad used to travel a lot for work (even going away for months at a time)... he was in Malaysia for the State Department when he met my mom. His Odysseus/Ulysses conjunction is in Libra in his 9th. Glaucusamowls,What about Right Ascension,Declination,Geocentric Nodes,Heliocentric Nodes. Those are also relevant because of their astronomical relevance. That's what I mean by Multidimensional Astrology. We tend to look at the sky from only one angle and not from other angles.any ways...Odysseus,Ulysses could be strong in those ways.Raymond------------------No..I am not a Virgo.Developmental Neurodiversity Association facebook group. http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=ts Glaucusdouble postevanskiBump! Fondue KnightI have Odysseus and Ulysses exactly conjunct in Aries in my 4th house. They're both transiting conjunct my Sun and Mars, respectively. I also have the asteroid House in my 9th house natally. *looks into buying Rosetta Stone*mintgirl123I have this both conjuncting my sun (3 degrees), I've been told by some gifted psychics that I'll have a career that involves alot of travelling in the further future. So will see I guess?evanskiMy father has a 4 degree Ulysses/Odysseus conjunction in the 9th house. He travelled a lot in his earlier years and relocated 3 times. I have a 1 degree conjunction in the 11th house. Limited travel, but have itchy feet.NickiGmy ulysses and odysseus are in conjunct exact in virgo in my 4th house, unaspected otherwise------------------I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in historyevanskiI miss Raymonds posts Most were more advanced than I could understand but they always had me intrigued. evanskiHi NickiG Have you travelled, or are you planning to?4th house is home, wonder if that means living abroad?NickiGi do plan to move abroad...in the future, to become a teacher------------------I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in historyRandallMoving to the Asteroid Forum.
Odysseus/Ulysses was the King of Ithaca who fought in the Trojan War. He was the craftiest of the Greeks. He went through trials and tribulations in his 10 year voyage from home after 10 years in fighting in Troy. Altogether he was gone for 20 years from his home.
I was wondering if Odysseus and Ulysses have to do with long journeys,far away from home,foreigners
In my natal chart:
Ulysses in 27'09 Capricorn in 5thtrine Juno in 26'26 Virgo in 1stsesquiquadrate/semisquare MC/IC - '55
Geocentric North Ulysses Node in 25'07 Gemini in 10thtrine Mars in 25'54 Aquarius in 6th
Geocentric South Ulysses Node in 10'05 Sagittarius in 3rdoppose/conjunct MC/IC in 11'14 Gemini/Sagittarius(9 minutes over the orb)
Right Ascension Ulysses in 4'03 Aquariustrine Right Ascension Transneptunian Dwarf Planet candidate Varuna in 2'57 Gemini Rsquare Right Ascension Transneptunian Dwarf Planet candidate Sedna in 3'46 Taurus Rsquare Right Ascension Sun in 3'02 Scorpiosquare Right Ascension Transneptunian Dwarf Planet candidate Quaoar in 1'16 Scorpiosquare Right Ascension Transneptunian Dwarf Planet candidate Ixion in 6'53 Scorpio(T-square of Ulysses square the opposition of Sun-Quaoar-Ixion and Sedna)
Odysseus in 11'10 Aquarius in 5thconjunct/oppose Lunar Nodes in 10'30 Aquarius/Leo in 5th/11thtrine/sextile MC/IC in 11'14 Gemini/Sagittariussextile Chiron in 10'32 Aries R in 8thsextile Transneptunian Dwarf Planet Eris in 12'15 Aries R in 8thquincunx Transneptunian Dwarf Planet Haumea in 11'17 Virgo in 12th
Geocentric North Odysseus Node in 10'06 Scorpio in 3rdsquare Lunar Nodes in 10'30 Aquarius/Leo in 5th/11thsquare Odysseus in 11'10 Aquarius in 5th
Geocentric South Odysseus Node in 12'24 Taurustrine/sextile Asc/Desc in 13'27 Virgo/Pisces(3 minutes over the orb)
Heliocentric Odysseus Nodes in 10'50 Scorpio/Taurussquare Lunar Nodes in 10'30 Aquarius/Leo in 5th/11thsquare Odysseus in 11'10 Aquarius in 5th
I was in the US Navy, and that means that I sailed,traveled to other countries.
If Ulysses and Odysseus means long journeys,being far away from how, then definitely seems like relationships,romance,children could be connected tolong journeys,being far away from home,foreigners
Both Ulysses and Odysseus are in my 5th house.
In my next Solar Return chart:
Odysseus in 27'25 Taurus R in 4thoppose/conjunct MC/IC in 24'49 Scorpio/Taurussquare Neptune in 25'56 Aquarius R in 1stsquare Chiron in 26'06 Aquarius R in 1stsextile Uranus in 27'15 Pisces R in 2nd
Ulysses in 5'53 Gemini R in 4thconjunct Natal Saturn in 5'08 Gemini R in Natal 9thtrine/sextile Asc/Desc in 3'57 Aquarius/Leoquincunx Sun in 5'20 Scorpio in 9thquincunx Venus in 5'36 Scorpio R in 9thquincunx Ceres in 5'51 Capricorn in 11th(A yod of Ulysses quincunx the sextile of Sun-Venus R and Ceres)
Both Odysseus and Ulysses are in 4th in Solar Return
The Odysseus and Ulysses seems to finetune the emphasis on long distance travel,far away from home,and foreigners that my strong Jupiter/9th house/Sagittarius theme seems to suggest.
Raymond
------------------No..I am not a Virgo.
Developmental Neurodiversity Association facebook group. http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=ts
My Natal (Libra 1H):
Odysseus - 18' Sagg (3H).Ulysses - 7' Sagg (3H).
Aspects:
Odys sq. Sun (2) in 12HOdys cj. Neptune (4) in 3H
Ulys semi-sq. Moon in 4HUlys sext. Mercury (2) in 1HUlys trine Mars (3) in 10/11HUlys sext. Saturn (2) in 1HUlys semi-sq. Pluto in 1H________________________
My Solar Return 2010 Chart (Libra 1H):
Odysseus - 29" Taurus (8H).Ulysses - 7" Gemini (9H)
Odys trine Moon (5) in 12HOdys quincunx Venus (1) in 1HOdys sext Jupiter (0) in 6HOdys sext Uranus (0) in 6HOdys sq. Neptune (3) in 5HOdys sq. Chiron (2) in 5H
Ulys trine Asc. (3) in 1HUlys trine Moon (3) in 12HUlys sq. Mercury (1) in 11/12HUlys bQ Venus (0) in 1HUlys trine Saturn (2) in 12/1H
I'm not sure if that shows anything in particular. I guess I do travel a bit more than your average person. 2 Psychics told me I'll be traveling a lot more in the future cuz of work.
It was a different story when I was in the US Navy though.
As the non profit organization really gets going and expands, there will be a lot of travel as I advocate neurodiversity.
I was wondering about long distance travel,faraway from home,foreigners in my next solar return that's on October 28thI will have strong Jupiter/Sagittarius/9th house theme. I was wondering about Ulysses,Odysseus finetuning that to put more emphasis on long distance travel,far away from home,foreigners.
I also wonder about relationships,romance in connection to long distance travel,far away from home,foreigners in general
I have no conclusions. That's why I said that I was wondering.I wanted people to share any insights that they might have about Odysseus and Ulysses as well as any other asteroids that may have to do with long distance travel.
However, in the solar return, you are traveling for a deep, heart(home) like reason---your Foundation which IS your home and the dearest thing to you,now, it seems.
------------------Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend.
yeah.....makes sense
but my Odysseus is in 11'10 Aquarius conjunct the North Lunar Node in 10'30 Aquarius in 5th and trine the Midheaven in 11'14 Gemini
that would indicate making connections,associations with others via career
so yeah....business can be involved
of course, 5th house is romanceso romances involving long distance travel,far away from home,foreigners
interestingly
I have Tyr in 11'09 Libra in 2nd trine the Odysseus-North Lunar Node conjunction and Midheaven
Tyr is named after the Norse God of War
That fits perfectly with military
I have Poseidon in 12'42 Aquarius conjunct the Odysseus-North Lunar Node conjunction and trine Midheaven
Poseidon is named after the Greek God Ruler of the Seas.
That fits perfectly with the navy
It's amazing how charts play out....especially when you consider the asteroids
Juno, the major asteroid associated with marriage,committed relationships,partnerships trine Ulysses in 5th in my natal chart seem to suggest marriage,committed relationship,partnership in connection to long distance travel,far away from home,foreigners with 5th house children is involved
My Industria is in 26'45 Capricorn in 5th, and so my Ulysses is conjunct that.
That would seem to indicate that long distance travel,far away from home,foreigners is connected to business.
Juno trines the conjunction, and so marriage,committed relationships,partnerships can be involved.
but I forgot to leave out Poseidon and Tyr, and I found out some very interesting things involving those asteroids
In my next Solar Return:
Industria in 13'20 Taurus R in 3rdoppose Mercury in 12'55 Scorpio in 9thtrine Poseidon in 16'10 Capricorn in 12thsextile Moon in 14'23 Cancer in 6th
That seems like long distance travel,far away from home,foreigners connected to business,work involving communications.
Poseidon looks like could mean going "overseas"I don't see myself taking a cruise of any kind.
I also found out that in my next Solar Return:
Tyr in 6'30 Scorpio in 9thconjunct Sun in 5'20 Scorpio in 9thconjunct Venus in 5'36 Scorpio R in 9thsquare Ascendant in 3'57 Aquarius sextile Ceres in 5'51 Capricorn in 11th sextile/trine Lunar Nodes in 4'26 Capricorn/Cancer Direct in 11th/5thquincunx Ulysses in 5'53 Gemini in 4th
(A yod of Ulysses quincunx the sextile of Sun-Venus-Tyr conjunction and Ceres)
It also seems that there could be fighting with somebody that I love and care about that involve long distance travel,far away from home,foreigners.
There could be the possibility of violence in connection to long distance travel
On the positive side, Tyr could be passionate,assertive,and action-oriented, similar to Mars.
What's interesting too is that there is also Mars in 0'26 Sagittarius conjunct Eros in 0'23 Sagittarius in 10th. That seems to be similar to the Sun-Venus-Tyr conjunction quincunx Ulysses.
What number are this asteroids?
I'm a frequent traveller and I have lived overseas several times. I wonder where it is in my chart. I just can't look through the asteroid list on my phone.
For example:I have Heliocentric Odysseus Nodes,Geocentric North Odysseus Node square my Odysseus-North Lunar Node conjunction and South Lunar Node. I have Geocentric South Ulysses Node sextile/trine all that.all aspects are within 1 degree orb
also if you use this site, all you have to do is type the name and don't have to worry about the numbers http://www.true-node.com/eph1/
btw the orbs that I use for asteroids3 degrees for conjunction,opposition,trine,square 2 degrees for sextile1 degree for semisextile,quincunx,semisquare,sesquiquadrate,quintile,biquintile
geocentric asteroids nodes 1 degree for all the ptolemaic aspect except sextile1/2 degree for sextile unless its aspecting an axis like lunar nodes,MC/IC,Asc/Desc,East Point/West Point,Antivertex/VertexI don't look at any minor aspects
heliocentric asteroid nodes 1 degree for all the ptolemaic aspectsI don't look at any minor aspects
I use the same orbs for the centaurs and transneptunians too
but
I'd probably use slightly wider orbs for the dwarf planets (Eris,Pluto-Charon,Makemake,Haumea,and Ceres)and the named dwarf planet candidates (Sedna,Orcus,Quaoar,Varuna,and Ixion)
i spent 21 years abroad and did a LOT of travelling during that time(i worked on the road)... i married a foreigner AND my daughter's moon conjuncts my ulysses and juno ...
the only thing i have in 9th house is musa! this fits a musician spending time on the road to a T...
edit: going back to locate musa, i have now come up with ulysses conj odysseus at 12 and 13 aries...not sure what happened there, tho i assume i put in the wrong asteroid code! except that it said ullysses 10 leo 5 minutes ago!!??? going daft...
well everything is much the same except now, by connection through angel/atlantis at 10/11 leo, instead of conjuncting my juno it loosely trines it. the vesta connection remains, and now it is opposing neptune too.
My dad used to travel a lot for work (even going away for months at a time)... he was in Malaysia for the State Department when he met my mom. His Odysseus/Ulysses conjunction is in Libra in his 9th.
What about Right Ascension,Declination,Geocentric Nodes,Heliocentric Nodes. Those are also relevant because of their astronomical relevance.
That's what I mean by Multidimensional Astrology.
We tend to look at the sky from only one angle and not from other angles.
any ways...Odysseus,Ulysses could be strong in those ways.
I have a 1 degree conjunction in the 11th house. Limited travel, but have itchy feet.
------------------I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?
when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history
Have you travelled, or are you planning to?4th house is home, wonder if that means living abroad?
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