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T O P I C R E V I E WSeleneI am going to post here the comparison between my and my last incarnation personality chart. That and also one other person's. (Known birth dates, unknown birth times for both of them)Me - HerTook personal planets/points + outer planets, asteroids with max orb 2 degrees, mostly hard aspects, but sometimes trines if i thought they were relevantTropical Sun square Saturn 1 Moon conjunct Moon EXACT (based on speculated BT, but doing this, there is an amazing conjunction of angles! Her ASC in this case conjuncts my IC EXACT) Mercury conjunct Uranus EXACT Venus conjunct Uranus 2 Saturn opposite Saturn 2 NN conjunct Karma 1 NN square DNA 1 Vertex conjunct Sumeria EXACT Vertex trine Mesopotamia EXACT DNA square Mercury EXACT DNA trine DNA 1 Spirit conjunct Spirit 1 Atlantis square Sun EXACT Atlantis trine Mars EXACT Sumeria trine Sun EXACT Sumeria square Atlantis 1 Sumeria opposite Sumeria EXACT Mesopotamia conjunct Mars 2 Mesopotamia square Mesopotamia 1As you see, if i put her BT to the time when its conjunct my Moon exact, then her ASC conjuncts my IC EXACT, and my Venus conjuncts her MC EXACT. CeridwenCool SeleneDraconic: conjunctions/oppositions only (~1 degree) Saturn conjunct Moon EXACT (speculated BT) Uranus opposite Karma EXACT Chiron square Atlantis 1 Chiron conjunct Sumeria EXACT Chiron trine Mesopotamia 1 Karma conjunct Uranus EXACT Mesopotamia opposite Sumeria 1 DSC conjunct Uranus 2I find especially interesting this EXACT Uranus - Karma Double Whammie, because i remembered this past life exactly after meeting a man who was my past-life husband (it happened when transit Uranus was conjunct His Sun and squared My Uranus exact + Transit Sun was EXACTLY conjunct Our Composite Uranus) SeleneDraconic TropicalMy Draconic Sun is in the same sign as her Tropical Sun sign. (Also the Sign of my IC!)Our Draconic Plutos are in the same sign as well, lol. In Capricorn, where Pluto is currently transiting. My Dr. Moon conjunct Her N. Uranus 2 My Dr. Uranus conjunct Her N. South Node EXACT LOL My Dr. DNA conjunct Her N. Jupiter EXACT My Dr. Atlantis conjunct Her N. Atlantis 3 Her Dr. Mars opposite My N. Vertex EXACT Her Dr. Saturn conjunct My N. Vertex 2 Her Dr. Chiron conjunct My N. Saturn EXACT Her Dr. Atlantis conjunct My N. Psyche 1 Her Dr. Sumeria conjunct My N. Atlantis EXACTSeleneHe His Past LifeTropical: conjunctions & oppositions only Moon conjunct Sun 1 Moon conjunct Atlantis EXACT Mercury conjunct Sumeria 1 Venus conjunct Mars EXACT Venus conjunct Destinn EXACT Jupiter conjunct Karma 1 Karma opposite Mars EXACT Karma opposite Destinn EXACT DNA conjunct Sun 1 DNA conjunc t Atlantis EXACT Spirit conjunct Aura 1 Sumeria conjunc t Mars 1 Sumeria conjunct Destinn 1 Mesopotamia conjunct Sumeria 1 ASC opposite Karma 1CeridwenThese are the connections I find extremely convincing and compelling."Moon conjunct Moon EXACT"Perfect. I mean Moon stores the emotional memory of our soul`s blueprint, so that is just a pretty convincing beginning."Her ASC in this case conjuncts my IC EXACT)"Another one."NN conjunct Karma 1""Spirit conjunct Spirit 1"Dr"Saturn conjunct Moon EXACT"SeleneDraconic Vertex opposite Neptune 1 Vertex opposite Sumeria EXACT Aura conjunct Mercury 1 Aura conjunct Venus 2 Aura conjunct Babylon 1 Mesopotamia conjunct Aura 1 MC conjunct Sun 2 MC conjunct Atlantis 2 MC conjunct Saturn 2There are many EXACT aspects, but mostly squares and trines. This also proves Draconic chart as our "past life" chart. His Draconic Sun is also Capricorn, just like his "Past life" natal chart. Conjunct by 3 degrees, approx. Ceridwensome links to threads IQ wrote on this subject, which I find interesting. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/202876.html http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/000708.html SeleneIt also made me think about "fated", "karmic" relationships in our life.Composite (me and this guy)Sun - Capricorn 12'29Moon conjunct PlutoComposite (her and her husband)Sun - Capricorn 11'33 (as if in this life our relationship has moved forward for one degree, lol )Moon conjunct Pluto (could be tighter or wider aspect, based on their birth times) Selene quote:Originally posted by Ceridwen:some links to threads IQ wrote on this subject, which I find interesting. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/202876.html http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/000708.html Thanks! SeleneI would also like to hear IQ's view on this. SeleneI found these people just because i had a series of past life dreams in which i kept seeing events from that lifeline. They all started just after meeting this man. There was a strong resonance between us from the start. In those dreams i saw ourselves, knew our names, the age gap, the fact that *we* had one daughter, our looks, and his profession. So i found him, because his profession was kind of one that has left something after him (not well known, though, but still), after that i also found birth record of his wife (that oh, what surprise! had the same name as me in my dream, and was exactly 13 years younger than him, just like in my dream, she even died 13 years later than him, lol) They had one daughter. CeridwenMany years ago I was in a meditation - I was around 16 or 17 - and suddenly got transported back in time. I even felt different, like I was experiencing this life; what astounded me most afterwards was that even though she was me in a way, my thoughtprocesses in this life are different, as is the educational background.Anyway, I even had some dates in that vision/ meditation, places, events.It was triggered by seeing a certain actor on TV, even though it was not crush-like. But it was like I was remembering a life with him.Fast forward over 10 years.When I had that recall of course I had no internet, 10 years later when I remembered that one (and found old notes), I had internet access.It was more for fun that I typed in the name of "my" husband.I did not expect to find anything, as he was not famous or something like that. I instantly stumbled across a family tree, a genealogy, and from the informations there, names, dates, profession, events - same as in my past life recall.The woman`s name is actually conjunct my asteroid KARMA, and the man`s name is conjunct his SOUTH NODE precisely. It`s just intriguing to notice, but I was pretty gobsmacked, when this "imaginary play" (that is how I rationalized it back then), turned out to have had a real foundation. And no there is no way I could have heard of this family before. Unfortunately there is no birthdate for her, there is a birthdate for him though.So I am definitely open towards the possiblity that we remember past lives in our dreams. Maybe though we might sometimes remember past lives of members of our soulgroup instead of our own, too. I am not totally certain about this yet.Oh and to stay with actors, I`ve had the feeling or maybe totally crazy idea, that Jude Law actually IS the reincarnation of Lord Alfred Douglas, the lover of Oscar Wilde.I know he just played him, but look at these pics! (in the very least, they might have had some connected ancestry). CeridwenThis is the synastry of Jude and Bosie. Though you can`t see it they share a SN-NN-conjunction at 3 degrees.[IMG]http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r111/Darkdreamer_02/ astro_61gw_959_228_bosie_jude6888150364_zps35bee29a.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r111/Darkdreamer_02/bosiejudedraco_zps57d9ddc c.gif[/IMG]I am aware though that it can be that the interconnections are just descriptive of that Jude played his part.EDIT:Personally in such a past life investigation I would only take conjunctions into account (and oppositions in Draco, too), and put the emphasis on:ASC, IC, Sun, Moon, Spirit, Aura, DNA, ruler of 12th houseSaturn, Pluto, nodal axis, Karma, AngelHere we have:tropical------------B DESC conjunct J Aura (2)B Sun conjunct J Moon (1)B Moon conjunct J Pluto (1)(B Pluto opposite J Spirit exact)B NN conjunct J SN (3)B Angel conjunct J Spirit (3)B Aura conjunct J Pluto (2)B Spirit conjunct J ASC (2)Pluto is J`s 12th house rulerDraco - draco----------------B ASC conjunct J Aura (1)B Moon conjunct J DNA (2)B Karma conjunct J Angel (2)B Moon conjunct J IC (1)B DNA conjunct J Sun (1)B Angel opposite J Spirit exactB Aura conjunct J DNA (3)B Spirit conjunct J Saturn on 28 Leo exactDraco - tropical----------------------B Dr Sun conjunct J SN on 16 Cancer exactB Dr Moon opposite J Karma exactB Dr Aura opposite J Karma (1)B Dr Saturn conjunct J Angel on 11 Virgo exacttropical - Draco---------------------B IC conjunct J Dr DESC (1)B Saturn opposite J Dr DNA (2)B SN conjunct J Dr Moon (2)B Karma conjunct J Dr Karma (3)Ceridwenfound this link http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/rosemurray/Pastlive.html Funnily Jude`s Part of Reincarnation is conjunct Bosie`s NN. lolBTW my own Draco Part of Reincarnation is exactly conjunct my 12th house cusp (Placidus) on 21 Scorpio.LiesLilithsaidtouranusincarnation charts?SeleneWow, Ceri, what a resemblance between Jude and the second guy! O_O Selene quote:Originally posted by Ceridwen:This is the synastry of Jude and Bosie. Though you can`t see it they share a SN-NN-conjunction at 3 degrees.[IMG]http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r111/Darkdreamer_02/ astro_61gw_959_228_bosie_jude6888150364_zps35bee29a.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r111/Darkdreamer_02/bosiejudedraco_zps57d9ddc c.gif[/IMG]I am aware though that it can be that the interconnections are just descriptive of that Jude played his part.EDIT:Personally in such a past life investigation I would only take conjunctions into account (and oppositions in Draco, too), and put the emphasis on:ASC, IC, Sun, Moon, Spirit, Aura, DNA, ruler of 12th houseSaturn, Pluto, nodal axis, Karma, AngelHere we have:tropical------------B DESC conjunct J Aura (2)B Sun conjunct J Moon (1)B Moon conjunct J Pluto (1)(B Pluto opposite J Spirit exact)B NN conjunct J SN (3)B Angel conjunct J Spirit (3)B Aura conjunct J Pluto (2)B Spirit conjunct J ASC (2)Pluto is J`s 12th house rulerDraco - draco----------------B ASC conjunct J Aura (1)B Moon conjunct J DNA (2)B Karma conjunct J Angel (2)B Moon conjunct J IC (1)B DNA conjunct J Sun (1)B Angel opposite J Spirit exactB Aura conjunct J DNA (3)B Spirit conjunct J Saturn on 28 Leo exactDraco - tropicalWow!I would consider conjunctions and oppositions as well, but i took Saturn square Sun just because i have it natally and she has her Saturn opposite mine, squaring my Sun as well! She also has my name asteroid almost exactly conjunct her NN, LOL. Selene quote:Originally posted by LiesLilithsaidtouranus:incarnation charts?No, actually real people, found, based on my memories and facts i got from my dreams that happened to be real. SeleneFunnily enough, she really has her Pluto in the sign of Capricorn where i have my Draconic Pluto!
(Known birth dates, unknown birth times for both of them)
Me - Her
Took personal planets/points + outer planets, asteroids with max orb 2 degrees, mostly hard aspects, but sometimes trines if i thought they were relevantTropical Sun square Saturn 1 Moon conjunct Moon EXACT (based on speculated BT, but doing this, there is an amazing conjunction of angles! Her ASC in this case conjuncts my IC EXACT) Mercury conjunct Uranus EXACT Venus conjunct Uranus 2 Saturn opposite Saturn 2 NN conjunct Karma 1 NN square DNA 1 Vertex conjunct Sumeria EXACT Vertex trine Mesopotamia EXACT DNA square Mercury EXACT DNA trine DNA 1 Spirit conjunct Spirit 1 Atlantis square Sun EXACT Atlantis trine Mars EXACT Sumeria trine Sun EXACT Sumeria square Atlantis 1 Sumeria opposite Sumeria EXACT Mesopotamia conjunct Mars 2 Mesopotamia square Mesopotamia 1As you see, if i put her BT to the time when its conjunct my Moon exact, then her ASC conjuncts my IC EXACT, and my Venus conjuncts her MC EXACT.
I find especially interesting this EXACT Uranus - Karma Double Whammie, because i remembered this past life exactly after meeting a man who was my past-life husband (it happened when transit Uranus was conjunct His Sun and squared My Uranus exact + Transit Sun was EXACTLY conjunct Our Composite Uranus)
My Draconic Sun is in the same sign as her Tropical Sun sign. (Also the Sign of my IC!)Our Draconic Plutos are in the same sign as well, lol. In Capricorn, where Pluto is currently transiting. My Dr. Moon conjunct Her N. Uranus 2 My Dr. Uranus conjunct Her N. South Node EXACT LOL My Dr. DNA conjunct Her N. Jupiter EXACT My Dr. Atlantis conjunct Her N. Atlantis 3 Her Dr. Mars opposite My N. Vertex EXACT Her Dr. Saturn conjunct My N. Vertex 2 Her Dr. Chiron conjunct My N. Saturn EXACT Her Dr. Atlantis conjunct My N. Psyche 1 Her Dr. Sumeria conjunct My N. Atlantis EXACT
Tropical: conjunctions & oppositions only Moon conjunct Sun 1 Moon conjunct Atlantis EXACT Mercury conjunct Sumeria 1 Venus conjunct Mars EXACT Venus conjunct Destinn EXACT Jupiter conjunct Karma 1 Karma opposite Mars EXACT Karma opposite Destinn EXACT DNA conjunct Sun 1 DNA conjunc t Atlantis EXACT Spirit conjunct Aura 1 Sumeria conjunc t Mars 1 Sumeria conjunct Destinn 1 Mesopotamia conjunct Sumeria 1 ASC opposite Karma 1
"Moon conjunct Moon EXACT"Perfect. I mean Moon stores the emotional memory of our soul`s blueprint, so that is just a pretty convincing beginning.
"Her ASC in this case conjuncts my IC EXACT)"Another one.
"NN conjunct Karma 1"
"Spirit conjunct Spirit 1"
Dr
"Saturn conjunct Moon EXACT"
There are many EXACT aspects, but mostly squares and trines.
This also proves Draconic chart as our "past life" chart. His Draconic Sun is also Capricorn, just like his "Past life" natal chart. Conjunct by 3 degrees, approx.
Composite (me and this guy)
Sun - Capricorn 12'29Moon conjunct Pluto
Composite (her and her husband)
Sun - Capricorn 11'33 (as if in this life our relationship has moved forward for one degree, lol )
Moon conjunct Pluto (could be tighter or wider aspect, based on their birth times)
quote:Originally posted by Ceridwen:some links to threads IQ wrote on this subject, which I find interesting. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/202876.html http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/000708.html
Thanks!
Anyway, I even had some dates in that vision/ meditation, places, events.It was triggered by seeing a certain actor on TV, even though it was not crush-like. But it was like I was remembering a life with him.
Fast forward over 10 years.When I had that recall of course I had no internet, 10 years later when I remembered that one (and found old notes), I had internet access.It was more for fun that I typed in the name of "my" husband.I did not expect to find anything, as he was not famous or something like that. I instantly stumbled across a family tree, a genealogy, and from the informations there, names, dates, profession, events - same as in my past life recall.
The woman`s name is actually conjunct my asteroid KARMA, and the man`s name is conjunct his SOUTH NODE precisely. It`s just intriguing to notice, but I was pretty gobsmacked, when this "imaginary play" (that is how I rationalized it back then), turned out to have had a real foundation.
And no there is no way I could have heard of this family before. Unfortunately there is no birthdate for her, there is a birthdate for him though.
So I am definitely open towards the possiblity that we remember past lives in our dreams. Maybe though we might sometimes remember past lives of members of our soulgroup instead of our own, too. I am not totally certain about this yet.
Oh and to stay with actors, I`ve had the feeling or maybe totally crazy idea, that Jude Law actually IS the reincarnation of Lord Alfred Douglas, the lover of Oscar Wilde.I know he just played him, but look at these pics! (in the very least, they might have had some connected ancestry).
[IMG]http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r111/Darkdreamer_02/ astro_61gw_959_228_bosie_jude6888150364_zps35bee29a.gif[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r111/Darkdreamer_02/bosiejudedraco_zps57d9ddc c.gif[/IMG]
I am aware though that it can be that the interconnections are just descriptive of that Jude played his part.
EDIT:Personally in such a past life investigation I would only take conjunctions into account (and oppositions in Draco, too), and put the emphasis on:
ASC, IC, Sun, Moon, Spirit, Aura, DNA, ruler of 12th houseSaturn, Pluto, nodal axis, Karma, Angel
Here we have:
tropical------------B DESC conjunct J Aura (2)B Sun conjunct J Moon (1)B Moon conjunct J Pluto (1)(B Pluto opposite J Spirit exact)B NN conjunct J SN (3)B Angel conjunct J Spirit (3)B Aura conjunct J Pluto (2)B Spirit conjunct J ASC (2)
Pluto is J`s 12th house ruler
Draco - draco----------------B ASC conjunct J Aura (1)B Moon conjunct J DNA (2)B Karma conjunct J Angel (2)B Moon conjunct J IC (1)B DNA conjunct J Sun (1)B Angel opposite J Spirit exactB Aura conjunct J DNA (3)B Spirit conjunct J Saturn on 28 Leo exact
Draco - tropical----------------------B Dr Sun conjunct J SN on 16 Cancer exactB Dr Moon opposite J Karma exactB Dr Aura opposite J Karma (1)B Dr Saturn conjunct J Angel on 11 Virgo exact
tropical - Draco---------------------B IC conjunct J Dr DESC (1)B Saturn opposite J Dr DNA (2)B SN conjunct J Dr Moon (2)B Karma conjunct J Dr Karma (3)
Funnily Jude`s Part of Reincarnation is conjunct Bosie`s NN. lol
BTW my own Draco Part of Reincarnation is exactly conjunct my 12th house cusp (Placidus) on 21 Scorpio.
quote:Originally posted by Ceridwen:This is the synastry of Jude and Bosie. Though you can`t see it they share a SN-NN-conjunction at 3 degrees.[IMG]http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r111/Darkdreamer_02/ astro_61gw_959_228_bosie_jude6888150364_zps35bee29a.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r111/Darkdreamer_02/bosiejudedraco_zps57d9ddc c.gif[/IMG]I am aware though that it can be that the interconnections are just descriptive of that Jude played his part.EDIT:Personally in such a past life investigation I would only take conjunctions into account (and oppositions in Draco, too), and put the emphasis on:ASC, IC, Sun, Moon, Spirit, Aura, DNA, ruler of 12th houseSaturn, Pluto, nodal axis, Karma, AngelHere we have:tropical------------B DESC conjunct J Aura (2)B Sun conjunct J Moon (1)B Moon conjunct J Pluto (1)(B Pluto opposite J Spirit exact)B NN conjunct J SN (3)B Angel conjunct J Spirit (3)B Aura conjunct J Pluto (2)B Spirit conjunct J ASC (2)Pluto is J`s 12th house rulerDraco - draco----------------B ASC conjunct J Aura (1)B Moon conjunct J DNA (2)B Karma conjunct J Angel (2)B Moon conjunct J IC (1)B DNA conjunct J Sun (1)B Angel opposite J Spirit exactB Aura conjunct J DNA (3)B Spirit conjunct J Saturn on 28 Leo exactDraco - tropical
Draco - tropical
Wow!
I would consider conjunctions and oppositions as well, but i took Saturn square Sun just because i have it natally and she has her Saturn opposite mine, squaring my Sun as well!
She also has my name asteroid almost exactly conjunct her NN, LOL.
quote:Originally posted by LiesLilithsaidtouranus:incarnation charts?
No, actually real people, found, based on my memories and facts i got from my dreams that happened to be real.
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