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T O P I C R E V I E WSeimei----GabbyI'm interested in what your saying but I don't fully understand what your saying could you elaborate on what this is about? Seimei-- Seimei---GabbyWhere do you find the Helio NN? If I look up my Helio chart there is no NN.ail221Gabby,you could use this website to calculate the helio nodes of any object. http://www.true-node.com/pos/ Gabby quote:Originally posted by ail221:Gabby,you could use this website to calculate the helio nodes of any object. http://www.true-node.com/pos/ Thank you....is Helio NN always opposed your Trop Sun? Seimei----Gabby quote:Originally posted by Seimei: Your question confounds me? THE EARTH is always opposite the Sun. It is referred to as the earth/sun dyad in Heliocentric astrology.Do you have Sun at 00Libra? Then answer would be yes. such > [URL=http://www.true-node.com/eph1/?inputNumber=earth%2Cmars&day=23&month=9&year=2015&time=08%3A20%3A49&zone=GMT+0&interval_num=1&interval=hour&lines=24&.submit=Get+Ephemeris&calen dar=G]http://www.true-node.com/eph1/?inputNumber=earth%2Cmars&day=23&month=9&year=2015&time=08%3A20%3A49&zone=GMT+0&interval_num=1&interval=hour&lines=24&.submit=Get+Ephemeris&cale ndar=G[/URL] regorian&zodiac=Tropical&origin=Heliocentric&lighttime=Apparent&clock=Universal+Time&zodsec=D%B0M%27S&longitude=on&nnode=on&perihelion=on a small group for luck here , can you think of others. But change date and time to yours: > [URL=http://www.true-node.com/eph1/?inputNumber=577%2C904%2C4955%2C258%2C109%2C19%2C3811%2C6583%2C6765%2C6465%2C4299%2C15606%2C12%2C1981%2C7782%2C151%2C5261%2C2736%2C2598%2C3489%2C 92891]http://www.true-node.com/eph1/?inputNumber=577%2C904%2C4955%2C258%2C109%2C19%2C3811%2C6583%2C6765%2C6465%2C4299%2C15606%2C12%2C1981%2C7782%2C151%2C5261%2C2736%2C2598%2C3489%2 C92891[/URL] &day=7&month=5&year=2015&time=0&zone=GMT+0&interval_num=1&interval=day&lines=1&calendar=Gregorian&zodiac=Tropical&origin=Heliocentric&lighttime=Apparent&clock=Universal+Time&zodsec =D%B0M%27S&longitude=on&nnode=on&.submit=Get+Ephemeris Seimei [/B]The way you've explained makes no sense to me at all, no my sun is not libra@0. I didn't realize the Helio NN was the same as the Moon or the Earth which of course is opposed the Trop Sun.I am not at all familiar with Helio charts NN, the Trop NN is not the same as the moon in the tropical chart. So why would I assume it would be in the Helio chart? Sorry I'm not as familiar with the Helio chart as you are...please excuse my ignorance. AubyanneI have no idea what this research is about, how to begin it, or for what purpose. I am completely confused. Seimei---Seimei ---PeluchesSeimei,Should we look at the Heliocentric NODES or the perihelion to give a meaning to the asteroid ? Both maybe ?PeluchesAuby,I think we're researching the Heliocentric NODES' (or perihelion's too ?) placements of asteroids we already know the meaning of, and then comparing them to the Heliocentric NODES' placements of new asteroids, of which we don't know the meaning. A tight conjunction or opposition between both placements would show a kind of link between the two meanings, allowing us to already have a hint regarding the new asteroid interpretation we're looking for.This is the link to use to calculate the NODES' positions : http://www.true-node.com/pos/ 1. Tick the boxes 'NNode' and 'Perihelion'.2. Select 'Heliocentric Center' and 'Tropical Zodiac'.3. Enter the asteroid numbers you wish to compare, and tick the corresponding box 'Show Bodies Entered Here'. 4. The NODES move extremely slowly, so if you're particular about the minutes, remember to enter your birth info. Now, Seimei, this really is a very interesting theory, but have you actually seen it work ? And, why use the Helio NODES rather than the Geo ones ?I'm gonna try it and keep you posted. Gabby quote:Originally posted by Seimei: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Gabby:[b] The way you've explained makes no sense to me at all, no my sun is not libra@0. I didn't realize the Helio NN was the same as the Moon or the Earth which of course is opposed the Trop Sun.I am not at all familiar with Helio charts NN, the Trop NN is not the same as the moon in the tropical chart. So why would I assume it would be in the Helio chart? Sorry I'm not as familiar with the Helio chart as you are...please excuse my ignorance. It is very Hot, but imagine you are on the Sun looking at the earth, from that view themoon and also its node are very close to the earth.. Forget about the moons node for this for now. Take 1,2,3,4 Ceres,Pallas,Juno,Vesta.At first don't even look at the Zodiacal Longitude of the minor planet. Only check the box for North Node and select Heliocentric in the drop box. These points are basically fixed just like node of our main planets. Heliocentric Jupiter node has been in 10-11 Cancer for maybe 100 years So look at your own chart in Geocentric(normal) positiions against the Heliocentric north nodes. Any aspect to the north node of a body is also an aspect to its south node just like the moon's node from earth. Do you use p-name asteroid (1665) Gaby,so if you add it. Such [URL=http://www.true-node.com/eph1/?inputNumber=1%2C2%2C3%2C4%2C1665%2CJupiter&day=1&month=5&year=2015&time=00%3A00%3A00&zone=GMT+0&interval_num=1&interval=year&lines=5&.submit=Get +Ephe]http://www.true-node.com/eph1/?inputNumber=1%2C2%2C3%2C4%2C1665%2CJupiter&day=1&month=5&year=2015&time=00%3A00%3A00&zone=GMT+0&interval_num=1&interval=year&lines=5&.submit=Ge t+Ephe[/URL] meris&calendar=Gregorian&zodiac=Tropical&origin=Heliocentric&lighttime=Apparent&clock=Universal+Time&zodsec=D%B0M&nnode=on Sorry if I started by giving you too too much to start!!! [/B][/QUOTE]Thanks for clarifying! I use 636, that's my name asteroid.Seimei - --Seimei--
quote:Originally posted by ail221:Gabby,you could use this website to calculate the helio nodes of any object. http://www.true-node.com/pos/
Thank you....is Helio NN always opposed your Trop Sun?
quote:Originally posted by Seimei: Your question confounds me? THE EARTH is always opposite the Sun. It is referred to as the earth/sun dyad in Heliocentric astrology.Do you have Sun at 00Libra? Then answer would be yes. such > [URL=http://www.true-node.com/eph1/?inputNumber=earth%2Cmars&day=23&month=9&year=2015&time=08%3A20%3A49&zone=GMT+0&interval_num=1&interval=hour&lines=24&.submit=Get+Ephemeris&calen dar=G]http://www.true-node.com/eph1/?inputNumber=earth%2Cmars&day=23&month=9&year=2015&time=08%3A20%3A49&zone=GMT+0&interval_num=1&interval=hour&lines=24&.submit=Get+Ephemeris&cale ndar=G[/URL] regorian&zodiac=Tropical&origin=Heliocentric&lighttime=Apparent&clock=Universal+Time&zodsec=D%B0M%27S&longitude=on&nnode=on&perihelion=on a small group for luck here , can you think of others. But change date and time to yours: > [URL=http://www.true-node.com/eph1/?inputNumber=577%2C904%2C4955%2C258%2C109%2C19%2C3811%2C6583%2C6765%2C6465%2C4299%2C15606%2C12%2C1981%2C7782%2C151%2C5261%2C2736%2C2598%2C3489%2C 92891]http://www.true-node.com/eph1/?inputNumber=577%2C904%2C4955%2C258%2C109%2C19%2C3811%2C6583%2C6765%2C6465%2C4299%2C15606%2C12%2C1981%2C7782%2C151%2C5261%2C2736%2C2598%2C3489%2 C92891[/URL] &day=7&month=5&year=2015&time=0&zone=GMT+0&interval_num=1&interval=day&lines=1&calendar=Gregorian&zodiac=Tropical&origin=Heliocentric&lighttime=Apparent&clock=Universal+Time&zodsec =D%B0M%27S&longitude=on&nnode=on&.submit=Get+Ephemeris Seimei [/B]
a small group for luck here , can you think of others. But change date and time to yours: > [URL=http://www.true-node.com/eph1/?inputNumber=577%2C904%2C4955%2C258%2C109%2C19%2C3811%2C6583%2C6765%2C6465%2C4299%2C15606%2C12%2C1981%2C7782%2C151%2C5261%2C2736%2C2598%2C3489%2C 92891]http://www.true-node.com/eph1/?inputNumber=577%2C904%2C4955%2C258%2C109%2C19%2C3811%2C6583%2C6765%2C6465%2C4299%2C15606%2C12%2C1981%2C7782%2C151%2C5261%2C2736%2C2598%2C3489%2 C92891[/URL] &day=7&month=5&year=2015&time=0&zone=GMT+0&interval_num=1&interval=day&lines=1&calendar=Gregorian&zodiac=Tropical&origin=Heliocentric&lighttime=Apparent&clock=Universal+Time&zodsec =D%B0M%27S&longitude=on&nnode=on&.submit=Get+Ephemeris
Seimei [/B]
The way you've explained makes no sense to me at all, no my sun is not libra@0. I didn't realize the Helio NN was the same as the Moon or the Earth which of course is opposed the Trop Sun.I am not at all familiar with Helio charts NN, the Trop NN is not the same as the moon in the tropical chart. So why would I assume it would be in the Helio chart? Sorry I'm not as familiar with the Helio chart as you are...please excuse my ignorance.
Should we look at the Heliocentric NODES or the perihelion to give a meaning to the asteroid ? Both maybe ?
I think we're researching the Heliocentric NODES' (or perihelion's too ?) placements of asteroids we already know the meaning of, and then comparing them to the Heliocentric NODES' placements of new asteroids, of which we don't know the meaning. A tight conjunction or opposition between both placements would show a kind of link between the two meanings, allowing us to already have a hint regarding the new asteroid interpretation we're looking for.
This is the link to use to calculate the NODES' positions : http://www.true-node.com/pos/
1. Tick the boxes 'NNode' and 'Perihelion'.2. Select 'Heliocentric Center' and 'Tropical Zodiac'.3. Enter the asteroid numbers you wish to compare, and tick the corresponding box 'Show Bodies Entered Here'. 4. The NODES move extremely slowly, so if you're particular about the minutes, remember to enter your birth info.
Now, Seimei, this really is a very interesting theory, but have you actually seen it work ? And, why use the Helio NODES rather than the Geo ones ?
I'm gonna try it and keep you posted.
quote:Originally posted by Seimei: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Gabby:[b] The way you've explained makes no sense to me at all, no my sun is not libra@0. I didn't realize the Helio NN was the same as the Moon or the Earth which of course is opposed the Trop Sun.I am not at all familiar with Helio charts NN, the Trop NN is not the same as the moon in the tropical chart. So why would I assume it would be in the Helio chart? Sorry I'm not as familiar with the Helio chart as you are...please excuse my ignorance.
Sorry if I started by giving you too too much to start!!!
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Thanks for clarifying! I use 636, that's my name asteroid.
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