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T O P I C R E V I E WariestigerTo kick this off, I'd say Sun or Venus in either Leo or Sag. People love them!!!The signs are ruled by the two largest planets, after all. Mars being much smaller, Aries has to work harder LOLAriesTigerSun_ScorpionI would say maybe Scorpio Sun, Moon, Asc or Mars. I personally always like and am attracted to Scorp moons! Must be my sun or somethin...astro junkieSag's, Aries, Aquarians, and sometimes Librans ... including any strong influences of those energies ...whiterabbitCharismatic in the way that everyone is drawn to them as if by some magical thread? I would say Pisces Suns, Leo rising, Scorpio Sun and Moon. In my experience. ghanima81Really, AJ? That must make me the most charismatic person around! LOL!! Aqua sun, mercury and mars, (11th house) Aries rising, and Libra Jupiter and Saturn (6th house)... I never thought of it that way, but I suppose that mix would lead me to have a somewhat attractive personality... too bad I'm actually just nuts! Seriously though, I've always had an easy time expressing ideas to people and bringing people together. I will not stand for pessimism, and always try to shed some light where there is darkness. Is that charisma? Ghaniastro junkieYes, Seriously! ... there you go ... pidauaAlso..Uranus and Pluto in the first house. Lends Charisma and Magnetism..Heehee..I have Sun / Venus in Sagand Uranus / Pluto in the first -No wonder I attract some real odd balls LMAO..in fact, I used to say to my friends "WTF..is my forehead sign lit up again?"hee heepixelpixieME TOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!I think if you have a lot of different elements in your chart, it lends charisma....Personal theory.diviniaA rising or strongly-aspected (to Sun or Moon) Neptune gets my vote.------------------Sincerely,divinia What wisdom can you find that is greater than kindness? -- Jean-Jacques RousseauAquarian GirlI think Venus/Sun in the 1st makes someone extremely charming and charismatic.My mother and ex-husband have the same stellium of planets in the 1st house... sun, venus and mercury... and both are the most disgustingly charismatic folk you can ever know. My mother has Leo rising and my ex-hubby is a Pisces sun. Both have fire moons... the ex has the Moon in Aries and mum has the Moon in Sag.Me? People either absolutely love me or hate me. I have a 1st house pluto, Libra rising, Aqua sun and Venus in Sag. I also have Sun conjunct Mars in the 5th which can make me a bit full on for a lot of people. I also have Jupiter in the 11th house, which means at least the important people always like me, hahaha. ariestigerHi Aquarian Girl,That's interesting - I find people always either like me or hate me, too!!!But I a) put that down to what I experienced at school, b) feel those very strong emotions myself - so maybe I project them. Perhaps this is due to Pluto in the 1st and Sun/Merc in the 8th. I attract unusual people too. I have Virgo Asc, and Mars and Saturn in the 10th, and am aware that I can come over as a little too "heavy" and "serious" occasionally. Luckily, those planets are both in Gemini, which lightens the load somewhat.I'd be interested to know what the indicators of charisma in a Chinese horoscope were. It seems people either like or hate Tigers. Apparently, at school/college several people thought I was "cool" because I approached all the work I undertook from a totally "different" angle, but (to my dismay at the time)no-one wanted to openly support me, because what I was doing was seen as being slightly too "radical". Luckily I am now comfortable with the fact that my interests tend to be rather obscure or specific, and that I will probably never make much money out of them. (But I always live in hope!!!!)To add to my previous message: I agree certain Aries do have a charisma of sorts, some Aries people just need to turn on a winning smile and they can get absolutely anyone to do absolutely anything for them. It's a tactic I'm not ashamed to employ. (Combined with Pisces Venus, it can have a softening effect on men - they will be ready to open doors, do small favours for you, etc.!)Scorpio Sun and Scorpio Venus are also very magnetic. Women with Scorpio Venus attract men like no-one else. My mother has Sag Sun, Scorp Venus, and Leo Asc. Men absolutely fall at her feet, but she doesn't want any of them.LOLAriesTiger starofplutoThe rising, sun, or personal planets in Leo or Sag.ice Mistsi'm surprised nobody has mentioned Mars conj Venus!! what about Eros? Eros conj Asc would make one super sexy i also find Moon conj/trine Venus incredibly charming and persuasiveSaggi Asc are fun and friendly, the ones i know have this ability to bring humour into the dullest of things, their presence kind of breaks the ice in any gathering, i've also noticed that Saggi Asc males are quite popular with the opposite sex especially if they also have Libran influenceslovely*not to sound contrarian, but charisma is subjective and entirely a matter of energetics, not sign. these little sign popularity contests are annoying. Secret GardenI had a question regarding, perhaps, this same thing. My ruling planet is Venus (Libra rising), and Venus is in 7th. So I always thot Venus is very imp. in my chart. However, Ive also noticed that my Scorp. moon and Aries Venus point to the fact that I have quite a prominent Mars (mars traditionally the ruler of scorp. and aries?). Which one would be 'more' prominent or important? Which one would affect my personality/charisma more? Isnt it weird that venus (feminine beauty) and mars (male aggression, typically) are both prominent? Where would this put me in terms of aggression vs. submission and feminine vs. masculine energies and thought process? Thanks in advance starofplutoYes, lovely, I understand your point. I think it would depend on how one defines charisma. It's described by some as magnetic and persuasive...and by others as personal attractiveness that can influence others. Well, scorps are magnetic...libras can be charming and persuasive...then again, all signs have their own brand of charm or appeal that can inspire enthusiam, interest, or affection in others "by means of personal charm...." Going with that, it would depend on what inspires or interests you... To me, charisma means alot of outward energy and enthusiasm and the ability to inspire the same in others who are around...in my experience, leo and sag fit the bill. lovely*starofpluto, yes. definately a matter of energetics.
The signs are ruled by the two largest planets, after all.
Mars being much smaller, Aries has to work harder
LOL
AriesTiger
Ghani
... there you go ...
Heehee..
I have Sun / Venus in Sag
and Uranus / Pluto in the first -
No wonder I attract some real odd balls LMAO..in fact, I used to say to my friends "WTF..is my forehead sign lit up again?"
hee hee
I think if you have a lot of different elements in your chart, it lends charisma....Personal theory.
------------------Sincerely,divinia
What wisdom can you find that is greater than kindness? -- Jean-Jacques Rousseau
My mother and ex-husband have the same stellium of planets in the 1st house... sun, venus and mercury... and both are the most disgustingly charismatic folk you can ever know. My mother has Leo rising and my ex-hubby is a Pisces sun. Both have fire moons... the ex has the Moon in Aries and mum has the Moon in Sag.
Me? People either absolutely love me or hate me. I have a 1st house pluto, Libra rising, Aqua sun and Venus in Sag. I also have Sun conjunct Mars in the 5th which can make me a bit full on for a lot of people.
I also have Jupiter in the 11th house, which means at least the important people always like me, hahaha.
That's interesting - I find people always either like me or hate me, too!!!
But I a) put that down to what I experienced at school, b) feel those very strong emotions myself - so maybe I project them.
Perhaps this is due to Pluto in the 1st and Sun/Merc in the 8th. I attract unusual people too. I have Virgo Asc, and Mars and Saturn in the 10th, and am aware that I can come over as a little too "heavy" and "serious" occasionally. Luckily, those planets are both in Gemini, which lightens the load somewhat.
I'd be interested to know what the indicators of charisma in a Chinese horoscope were. It seems people either like or hate Tigers. Apparently, at school/college several people thought I was "cool" because I approached all the work I undertook from a totally "different" angle, but (to my dismay at the time)no-one wanted to openly support me, because what I was doing was seen as being slightly too "radical". Luckily I am now comfortable with the fact that my interests tend to be rather obscure or specific, and that I will probably never make much money out of them. (But I always live in hope!!!!)
To add to my previous message: I agree certain Aries do have a charisma of sorts, some Aries people just need to turn on a winning smile and they can get absolutely anyone to do absolutely anything for them. It's a tactic I'm not ashamed to employ. (Combined with Pisces Venus, it can have a softening effect on men - they will be ready to open doors, do small favours for you, etc.!)Scorpio Sun and Scorpio Venus are also very magnetic. Women with Scorpio Venus attract men like no-one else. My mother has Sag Sun, Scorp Venus, and Leo Asc. Men absolutely fall at her feet, but she doesn't want any of them.
what about Eros? Eros conj Asc would make one super sexy
i also find Moon conj/trine Venus incredibly charming and persuasive
Saggi Asc are fun and friendly, the ones i know have this ability to bring humour into the dullest of things, their presence kind of breaks the ice in any gathering, i've also noticed that Saggi Asc males are quite popular with the opposite sex especially if they also have Libran influences
However, Ive also noticed that my Scorp. moon and Aries Venus point to the fact that I have quite a prominent Mars (mars traditionally the ruler of scorp. and aries?).
Which one would be 'more' prominent or important? Which one would affect my personality/charisma more? Isnt it weird that venus (feminine beauty) and mars (male aggression, typically) are both prominent? Where would this put me in terms of aggression vs. submission and feminine vs. masculine energies and thought process?
Thanks in advance
To me, charisma means alot of outward energy and enthusiasm and the ability to inspire the same in others who are around...in my experience, leo and sag fit the bill.
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