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T O P I C R E V I E Wastro junkieEvery time I look at each of their Natals, nothing is popping out at me in terms of WHY they are together the way they are.Has anyone studied this yet?------------------ ... it's better to light a candle than curse the darknessMystic Gemini http://aolsearch.aol.com/aol/search?encquery=a7ee1094d929ee3d80518f9a1aedf5dbe0962ce0c664246e2b9e7778ec9c90835794d6b22ce581db&invocationType=keyword_rollover&ie=UTF-8 http://aolsearch.aol.com/aol/search?invocationType=topsearchbox.search&query=brad+pitt+and+angelina+jolie+composite JazzebelI dont have their charts in front of me now, but I remember that the moment I saw ther synastry, I knew they will get together (it was one year ago when the rumors started). For what I remember, the first thing that hit me was her Sun dead on his DC. This is a huge pull - She ( thru her Sun) is the epithomy of the ideal marriage partner. And again - her Neptune is dead on his ASC (she is VERY alluring to him ). I.E - her natal Sun/Neptune opposition lays exactly across his ASC/DC. Angles are extremely important in synastry.Then, he has lots of Capricon in his natal, she is full of Aries and Cancer. So many cardinal planets, and what is more - each of Brad`s separate stelliums (he has two Capricorn stelliums) square/opposite both of Angelina`s Cancer and Aries stelliums. I mean- each group of planets in Brad`s chart is in a strong aspect to each group of planets to Angelina`s. Not a planet is left to rest. Squares and oppositions are very hard to resist in synastry.Demmi Moor and Ashton are the same - both Demi`s Scorpio/Taurus stelliums are in square/opposition to all Aqua planets of Ashton. So there you go.soljourneyHi! Yes I was going to mention the angles as well. Jolie's Sun is w/in a 2 deg orb of Pitt's Desc, and her natal Nept sits on Pitt's Asc. Astro Junkie, are you looking at their correct charts? (I know that some internet sites are not always the best sources for correct birthdata). Brad PittDec 18, 19636:31 am CST96'56W 35'20NJolieJune 4, 19759:09am PST115'08W 36'11NThey hv a number of synastric ties:Brad's Sagittarius Sun is in Jolie's 5th HouseJolie's Chiron Trines Pitt's Sun (according to the Magi Society Chiron aspects in synastry are like glue)Always look for Saturn ties as well, good or bad, Saturn holds 2 ppl together through thick and thin!Jolie's Saturn is conj Pitt's NN (5* orb) Can anyone say Karma?Jolie's Juno trines Pitt's Saturn 0 * orbPitt's Juno trine's Jolie's Saturn 0* orbJolie's Saturn squares Pitt's MoonPitt's Saturn trines Jolie's SunJolie's Moon is conj Pitt's Asc ruler JupiterPitt's Desc Ruler Merc oppositions Jolie's Saturn (More Karma)Jolie's Desc Ruler Saturn opposition's Pitt's Merc, Moon, and Venus (It wont be all paradise)Jolie's Vertex sits on Pitt's Asc - 4* orbPitt's Vx sits on Jolie's Venus - 0* orbJolie's Chiron falls on Pitt's 5th House cusp(She is helping him to find healing and purpose through children)Also, Pitt's Asc and Sun fall in Jolie's 5th house (Jolie's natal Neptune in her 5th is a classic marker for those who adopt children)Jolie's Moon falls in Pitts 5th House, he values her as a nurturer as well as sexual partner, his sexual experiences w/ her are emotional as well as physicalBrad's Sun/Moon MP = Joile's Marsand his Venus/Mars = Jolie's JupiterJolie's Moon/Mars MP = Pitt's JupiterInterestingly his NN falls in her 12th house, her NN falls in his 12th house, probably indicates past life ties, & that they would progress better as a couple if they keep their affairs to themselves, they will help eachother work through their fears and problemsSimilarly Jolie's Vx falls in Pitts 12th house, Pitt's Vx falls in Jolie's 12th housePitt's Saturn falls in Jolie's 7th House, a common placement in partnersThere are numerous other contacts btw the charts, good and bad (I hv not looked at their declinations). There will be HUGE trust and aggression issues, but the relationship does seem to be very much a Karmic one. They seem to be finishing business from a past life, and though they wont always get along (her Mars sqaure his Mars, as well as his Nodes) they will now be connected for life through their adopted children. It probably will be long-term, just not likely to be life-long. But who knows?astro junkieSuper interesting ...------------------ ... it's better to light a candle than curse the darknessKathmm interestingIt seems that alot of people get together when the composite moon or sun is in the 5th house. We'll see if this is just a fun affair or something long term.soljourneyKat, I did not look at their composite chart, I only looked at their Synastry which shows their attraction and their purpose for coming together. They seem to hv some long-term signatures in their synastry analysis, however, Jolie has an exact natal Venus-Uranus square which does not support long-term relationships in her life.-SolsthenriWell, I believe it's very clear with jolie's mars and ascendant both in fire signs-her ascendant is sag-same sign as his sun. There is a strong desire in her to have children, in her field women are not seen as maternal and career driven, and fire is the sign of creativity, he always wanted children-they are both creative, and yet paternal, both divorced from grown children, and want to create more warmth and affection in their lives.I have sag rising from what I know, and I do have a drive to create constantly and am attracted to warm, creative people, especially those with sag sun, sag 7th house, sun singletons, sag or fire moons-jolie and pitt-all that fire together caused a desire to join and start a family.Natashajacquethe latest news says Brad n Angelina have split. Can anyone point that out in their synastry? Are there signs of their relationship not working out in their synastry or composites?Can synastry actually tell you if u're relationship is going to last?I'm still quite new to all this so have a number of questions ..jacqueastrojunkie, what did you see in their natals and synastry that made you say u don't know why they are together? please elaborate as it would be great to know & learn from this.jacquesoljourney,you mentioned Brad's Saturn is opposing Joli's Venus; If Saturn was trining or conjuncting Venus would their relationship had lasted??also they have only one NN aspect, what if they had more?can anyone one aspect tell you the durability of the relationship .. or how long it will last?GlaucusI looked at their stuff from a 21st Century Astrology and overall alternative astrology perspectiveI looked at their composite through the 21st Century Astrology perspective, looking at the big transneptunians which have to do with evolutionary intensified lessons,experienceslooking at the big transneptuniansusing only 3 degree orb for conjunction,opposition,trine,square2 degree orb for sextiledidn't bother looking at any minor aspectsIxion in 3'33 Scorpiooppose Saturn in 3'15 Taurustrine Moon in 2'57 Piscessextile Juno in 2'13 VirgoPhilip Sedgwick wrote the following for keywords for Ixion based on its node and perihelion during its discovery as well as its mythology:Ixion: Father of the Centaurs, and not a particularly nice fellow. Orbital Period: 246.78 yr.Positive - understands karmic wheel, gives and uses a second chance, discerningNegative - lustful, inconsiderate, inclined to repeat errors, learns nothing from experienceSedna in 1'13 Taurusconjunct Saturn in 3'15 Taurustrine Juno in 2'13 Virgosextile Moon in 2'57 PiscesPhilip wrote the following keywords for Sedna based on its node and perihelon as well as its mythology:Sedna - She is the first body to bear the mythology of the arctic's Inuit culture. Orbital Period: 11,013.05 yr.Positive - a forgiving disposition, discernment, clarity of perception, recognition of free will and choice, responsible, conscious of consequence, far thinking, dharma-oriented, does the homework of lifeNegative - victimization, abuse, being deceived, history of betrayal, bitterness, “gold digging” attitude in relationship, transfers blame to others, numbs out, goes unconsciousMoon,Juno,Ixion,and Saturn-Sedna are in a Wedge configuration.Intensified evolutionary experiences,lessons of second chances,humane caretaking involving dealing with feelings,nurturing,committed relationships,discipline,responsibilities.Orcus in 18'25 Cancer Rtrine Sun in 19'38 PiscesPhilip Sedgwick wrote the following keywords for Orcus based on its node and perihelion during discovery as well as its mythologyOrcus - A lord of the underworld. Orbital Period: 248.01 yr.Positive: a person of one’s word, challenges broken promises, aligned with a spiritual creed, accountable for personal thought, word and deedNegative: hypocritical, fault finding in the ways of others, blame assigning, ducks responsibility for word and actions, unable to keep promisesso both of the luminaries are trine a transneptunian dwarf planet candidate/plutino, similar to a luminaries aspecting Pluto. Plutinos are objects that have 2:3 orbital resonance. That means that every 3 times Neptune orbits the Sun, plutinos orbit twice. As plutinos, Orcus and Ixion orbit like Pluto. They are astronomically similar to Pluto,and so they are astrologically similar to Pluto.intensity,power,transformationThe relationship seems very deep with strong emphasis on evolutionary intensified lessons and experiences.Raymond------------------"Nothing matters absolutely;the truth is it only matters relatively"- Eckhart TolleGlaucusI looked at the geocentric planetary nodes in the composite2 degree orb for conjunction,opposition,trine,square1 degree orb for sextilefor asteroids,transneptunians1 degree orb for conjunction,opposition,trine,square30 minutes for sextilenodes of the personal planets,asteroids move relatively quickly,and so they are personal connectionsnodes of Jupiter,Saturn,outerplanets,transneptunians move relatively slowly, and so they are collective connectionsGeocentric North Mars Node in 3'52 Taurus - personal connection involving assertion,passionconjunct Saturn - discipline,structure,sextile Moon in 2'57 Pisces - emotions,feelingsGeocentric North Saturn Node in 24'13 Capricorn - collective connection involving discipline,structuresquare VenusGeocentric North Pluto Node in 19'45 Cancer - collective connection involving transformation,intensity,powertrine Sun in 19'38 PiscesGeocentric South Pluto Node in 20'05 Capricorn - collective connection involving transformation,intensity,powersextile Sun in 19'38 PiscesGeocentric North Juno Node in 19'57 Virgo - personal connection involving committed relationship,marriage,partnershipoppose Sun in 19'38 PiscesGeocentric South Juno in 20'28 Pisces - personal connection involving commited relationship,marriage,partnershipconjunct Sun in 19'38 PiscesI also checked the Heliocentric Nodesall heliocentric nodes of objects move very slowly.....up to 1 degree per century. They are all collective energies.2 degree orb for conjunction,opposition,trine,square,sextile1 degree orb for asteroids,transneptuniansHeliocentric Mercury Nodes in 17'58 Taurus/Scorpio - collective connection involving communicationssextile/trine Sun in 19'38 Pisces(Great for communications and anything that has to do with the media)Heliocentric Mars Nodes in 19'19 Taurus/Scorpio - collective connection involving assertion,passion,physical drivesextile/trine Sun in 19'38 PiscesHeliocentric Pluto Nodes in 20'53 Cancer/Capricorn - collective connection involving transformation,intensity,powertrine/sextile Sun in 19'38 PiscesHeliocentric Juno Nodes in 20'17 Virgo/Pisces - collective connection involving committed relationships,marriage,partnershipsoppose/conjunct Sun in 19'38 PiscesHeliocentric Ceres Nodes in 20'34 Gemini/Sagittarius - collective connection involving nurturing,caretakingsquare Sun in 19'38 PiscesTheir Sun conjunct Geocentric South Juno,oppose/conjunct Heliocentric Juno Nodes seems to indicate that they could have possibly been committed relationship partners in a pastlife. It could also just mean that it's natural for them to be committed relationship partners.With the Geocentric North and South Pluto Nodes,Heliocentric Pluto Nodes trine and sextile, the conjunction, the committed relationship involves intensity,transformation,power. The Sun sextile/trine the Heliocentric Mercury Nodes and Mars Nodes indicates good communications and assertiveness in relationship. The Sun square Heliocentric Ceres Nodes make sense for them as highly famous parents,caretakers.It's a profound relationship. It's far from superficial.Their Venus square geocentric Saturn Node indicates the seriousness,responsibilities of the relationship.Their strong Sun-Juno Node aspects are amazing, especially they have them both geocentric (personal) and heliocentric (collective). The latter is like a good indication of a world famous couple. Their strong Sun-Pluto Node aspects (both geocentric and heliocentric) indicate a power couple.Raymond------------------"Nothing matters absolutely;the truth is it only matters relatively"- Eckhart TolleGlaucusinspired by the work of Theodor Landscheidt,Zipporah Dobyns,and Jeffrey Wolf Green,I checked their geocentric planetary node synastryI checked the geocentric nodes of only Mercury,Venus,Mars,Juno,Ceres,Pallas,VestaI didn't check the nodes of Jupiter and objects beyond because they move very slowly...they are collective energies.1 degree for conjunction,opposition,trine,square1/2 degree for sextilefor asteroid nodes1/2 degree for conjunction,opposition,trine square15 minutes of arc for sextileI checked not only ecliptic longitude which is the regular astrology chart coordinates, I also checked Right Ascension (Equatorial Longitude) for a multidimensional approach.Brad's Geocentric North Mercury Node in 10'34 - Capricorn - personal connections involving communicationssquare Angelina's Mars in 10'42 Aries - assertion,passion,physical driveBrad's Geocentric South Mercury Node in 14'08 Sagittarius - personal connections involving communications - personal connections involving communicationsoppose Angelina's Sun in 13'25 Gemini - ego,self expression,vitalityIn Right Ascension,Brad's Geocentric North Mercury Node in 11'30 Capricornsquare Angelina's Moon in 10'29 Aries - emotional naturesquare Angelina's Mars in 10'29 Aries - assertion,passion,physical driveBrad's Geocentric South Venus Node in 21'49 Sagittarius - personal connections involving love,relationships,value systemsoppose Angelina's Mercury in 22'19 Gemini R - communications,thoughtsIn Right Ascension,Brad's Geocentric South Venus Node in 21'05 Sagittarius - personal connections involving love,relationships,value systemsoppose Angelina's Mercury in 21'44 Gemini - communications,thoughtsIn Right Ascension,Brad's Geocentric South Mars Node in 1'18 Sagittarius - personal connections involving assertion,passion,physical drivetrine Angelina's Venus in 0'47 Leo - love,relationships,value systemstrine Angelina's Ascendant in 0'01 Leo - self,persona,relationships(could be a strong passionate,sexual attraction)Brad's Geocentric North Juno Node in 10'21 Libra - personal connections involving committed relationships,marriage,partnershipsoppose Angelina's Mars in 10'42 Aries - assertion,passion,physical drivesextile Angelina's Neptune in 10'20 Sagittarius - inspiration,idealism,dissolutionBrad's Geocentric North Ceres Node in 17'39 Gemini - personal connections involving nurturing,caretaking,maternal mattersconjunct Angelina's Juno in 17'37 Gemini - committed relationships,marriage,partnershipssextile Angelina's Jupiter in 17'25 Aries - expansion,optimism,judgmentsextile Angelina's Midheaven in 17'52 Aries - aim of life,career,social statusIn Right Ascension,Brad's Geocentric North Ceres Node in 16'34 Gemini - personal connections involving nurturing,caretaking,maternal matterssextile Angelina's Jupiter in 16'31 Aries - expansion,optimism,judgmentsextile Angelina's Midheaven in 16'28 Aries - aim of life,career,social statusBrad's Geocentric South Ceres Node in 21'59 Sagittarius - personal connections involving nurturing,caretaking,maternal mattersoppose Angelina's Mercury in 22'19 Gemini R - communications,thoughtsIn Right Ascension,Brad's Geocentric South Ceres Node in 21'17 Sagittarius - personal conenctions involving nurturing,caretaking,maternal mattersoppose Angelina's Mercury in 21'44 Gemini R - communications,thoughtsBrad's Geocentric North Pallas Node in 16'52 Libra - personal connections involving creative intelligence,political beliefsoppose Angelina's Jupiter in 17'25 Aries - expansion,optimism,judgmentAngelina's Geocentric North Venus Node in 14'40 Gemini - personal connections involving love,relationships,value systemssquare Brad's Pluto in 14'13 Virgo R - transformation,intensity,power(could be an intense,sexual attraction..involving evolutionary intensified lessons,experiences)Angelina's Geocentric South Mars Node in 15'51 Libra - personal connection involving assertion,passion,physical drivesquare Brad's Mercury in 16'06 Capricorn - communications,thoughtsIn Right Ascension,Angelina's Geocentric North Mars Node in 26'56 Taurus - personal connections involving assertion,passion,physical drivetrine Brad's Midheaven in 27'13 Virgo - aim of life, career,social statusAngelina's Geocentric South Pallas Node in 10'14 Aries - personal connections involving creative intelligence,political beliefsconjunct Brad's Jupiter in 9'50 Aries - expansion,optimism,judgmentconjunct Brad's Eris in 9'55 Aries - diversity,equality,controversysquare Mars in 10'01 Capricorn - assertion,passion,physical driveIn Right Ascension,Angelina's South Pallas Node in 9'24 Aries - personal connections involving creative intelligence,political beliefsconjunct Brad's Jupiter in 9'34 Aries - expansion,optimism,judgmentIn Right Ascension,Angelina's Geocentric South Juno Node in 12'07 Aries - personal connections involving committed relationships,marriage,partnershipssquare Brad's Stationary Lunar Nodes in 12'08 Cancer - emotional connections(his lunar nodes are stationary, and so strong lunar node influence.....the exact aspect is significant.....with the lunar nodes being stationary, even more significant)It was all done on Solar Fire 6.Raymond------------------"Nothing matters absolutely;the truth is it only matters relatively"- Eckhart TolleDD"the latest news says Brad n Angelina have split. Can anyone point that out in their synastry? "I don´t think natal synastry can foretell if a couple will stay together or break up. It is just a map of potential attraction and compatibility.Maybe the progressed charts or even harsh transits to significant challenging synastric aspects may give the better clue. But even then it is not set in stone.DDRaymond,wow about their aspects!And given the huge emotional attention they are being given collectively, I suppose it is no surprise that their heliocentric Nodes play a big role, too!BTW do you prefer composite to the Davison?DD"Heliocentric Mercury Nodes in 17'58 Taurus/Scorpio - collective connection involving communicationssextile/trine Sun in 19'38 Pisces(Great for communications and anything that has to do with the media)"It`s no wonder than they are so "present" in the medias."Heliocentric Pluto Nodes in 20'53 Cancer/Capricorn - collective connection involving transformation,intensity,powertrine/sextile Sun in 19'38 Pisces"They definitely are a "power-couple", and maybe that is why the collective is reacting so emotionally to them. Such an intensity sometimes evokes fear or makes it easy to project own fears and dsilikes on them.The fact that this is a trine / sextiles seems to indicate that those aspects are not really all that insignificant, but that they should not be underestimated."Heliocentric Ceres Nodes in 20'34 Gemini/Sagittarius - collective connection involving nurturing,caretakingsquare Sun in 19'38 Pisces"Could it be that here all their children are indicated?DiandraReborn25they didnt splitthey appeared together very in love.The Duke
Has anyone studied this yet?
------------------ ... it's better to light a candle than curse the darkness
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Astro Junkie, are you looking at their correct charts? (I know that some internet sites are not always the best sources for correct birthdata).
Brad PittDec 18, 19636:31 am CST96'56W 35'20N
JolieJune 4, 19759:09am PST115'08W 36'11N
They hv a number of synastric ties:
Brad's Sagittarius Sun is in Jolie's 5th House
Jolie's Chiron Trines Pitt's Sun (according to the Magi Society Chiron aspects in synastry are like glue)
Always look for Saturn ties as well, good or bad, Saturn holds 2 ppl together through thick and thin!
Jolie's Saturn is conj Pitt's NN (5* orb) Can anyone say Karma?
Jolie's Juno trines Pitt's Saturn 0 * orbPitt's Juno trine's Jolie's Saturn 0* orb
Jolie's Saturn squares Pitt's MoonPitt's Saturn trines Jolie's Sun
Jolie's Moon is conj Pitt's Asc ruler Jupiter
Pitt's Desc Ruler Merc oppositions Jolie's Saturn (More Karma)
Jolie's Desc Ruler Saturn opposition's Pitt's Merc, Moon, and Venus (It wont be all paradise)
Jolie's Vertex sits on Pitt's Asc - 4* orb
Pitt's Vx sits on Jolie's Venus - 0* orb
Jolie's Chiron falls on Pitt's 5th House cusp(She is helping him to find healing and purpose through children)
Also, Pitt's Asc and Sun fall in Jolie's 5th house (Jolie's natal Neptune in her 5th is a classic marker for those who adopt children)
Jolie's Moon falls in Pitts 5th House, he values her as a nurturer as well as sexual partner, his sexual experiences w/ her are emotional as well as physical
Brad's Sun/Moon MP = Joile's Marsand his Venus/Mars = Jolie's Jupiter
Jolie's Moon/Mars MP = Pitt's Jupiter
Interestingly his NN falls in her 12th house, her NN falls in his 12th house, probably indicates past life ties, & that they would progress better as a couple if they keep their affairs to themselves, they will help eachother work through their fears and problems
Similarly Jolie's Vx falls in Pitts 12th house, Pitt's Vx falls in Jolie's 12th house
Pitt's Saturn falls in Jolie's 7th House, a common placement in partners
There are numerous other contacts btw the charts, good and bad (I hv not looked at their declinations). There will be HUGE trust and aggression issues, but the relationship does seem to be very much a Karmic one. They seem to be finishing business from a past life, and though they wont always get along (her Mars sqaure his Mars, as well as his Nodes) they will now be connected for life through their adopted children. It probably will be long-term, just not likely to be life-long. But who knows?
-Sol
I have sag rising from what I know, and I do have a drive to create constantly and am attracted to warm, creative people, especially those with sag sun, sag 7th house, sun singletons, sag or fire moons-
jolie and pitt-all that fire together caused a desire to join and start a family.
Natasha
Can anyone point that out in their synastry?
Are there signs of their relationship not working out in their synastry or composites?
Can synastry actually tell you if u're relationship is going to last?
I'm still quite new to all this so have a number of questions ..
also they have only one NN aspect, what if they had more?
can anyone one aspect tell you the durability of the relationship .. or how long it will last?
I looked at their composite through the 21st Century Astrology perspective, looking at the big transneptunians which have to do with evolutionary intensified lessons,experiences
looking at the big transneptuniansusing only 3 degree orb for conjunction,opposition,trine,square2 degree orb for sextiledidn't bother looking at any minor aspects
Ixion in 3'33 Scorpiooppose Saturn in 3'15 Taurustrine Moon in 2'57 Piscessextile Juno in 2'13 Virgo
Philip Sedgwick wrote the following for keywords for Ixion based on its node and perihelion during its discovery as well as its mythology:
Ixion: Father of the Centaurs, and not a particularly nice fellow. Orbital Period: 246.78 yr.
Positive - understands karmic wheel, gives and uses a second chance, discerning
Negative - lustful, inconsiderate, inclined to repeat errors, learns nothing from experience
Sedna in 1'13 Taurusconjunct Saturn in 3'15 Taurustrine Juno in 2'13 Virgosextile Moon in 2'57 Pisces
Philip wrote the following keywords for Sedna based on its node and perihelon as well as its mythology:
Sedna - She is the first body to bear the mythology of the arctic's Inuit culture. Orbital Period: 11,013.05 yr.
Positive - a forgiving disposition, discernment, clarity of perception, recognition of free will and choice, responsible, conscious of consequence, far thinking, dharma-oriented, does the homework of life
Negative - victimization, abuse, being deceived, history of betrayal, bitterness, “gold digging” attitude in relationship, transfers blame to others, numbs out, goes unconscious
Moon,Juno,Ixion,and Saturn-Sedna are in a Wedge configuration.
Intensified evolutionary experiences,lessons of second chances,humane caretaking involving dealing with feelings,nurturing,committed relationships,discipline,responsibilities.
Orcus in 18'25 Cancer Rtrine Sun in 19'38 Pisces
Philip Sedgwick wrote the following keywords for Orcus based on its node and perihelion during discovery as well as its mythology
Orcus - A lord of the underworld. Orbital Period: 248.01 yr.
Positive: a person of one’s word, challenges broken promises, aligned with a spiritual creed, accountable for personal thought, word and deed
Negative: hypocritical, fault finding in the ways of others, blame assigning, ducks responsibility for word and actions, unable to keep promises
so both of the luminaries are trine a transneptunian dwarf planet candidate/plutino, similar to a luminaries aspecting Pluto. Plutinos are objects that have 2:3 orbital resonance. That means that every 3 times Neptune orbits the Sun, plutinos orbit twice. As plutinos, Orcus and Ixion orbit like Pluto. They are astronomically similar to Pluto,and so they are astrologically similar to Pluto.intensity,power,transformation
The relationship seems very deep with strong emphasis on evolutionary intensified lessons and experiences.
Raymond
------------------"Nothing matters absolutely;the truth is it only matters relatively"
- Eckhart Tolle
2 degree orb for conjunction,opposition,trine,square1 degree orb for sextile
for asteroids,transneptunians1 degree orb for conjunction,opposition,trine,square30 minutes for sextile
nodes of the personal planets,asteroids move relatively quickly,and so they are personal connections
nodes of Jupiter,Saturn,outerplanets,transneptunians move relatively slowly, and so they are collective connections
Geocentric North Mars Node in 3'52 Taurus - personal connection involving assertion,passionconjunct Saturn - discipline,structure,sextile Moon in 2'57 Pisces - emotions,feelings
Geocentric North Saturn Node in 24'13 Capricorn - collective connection involving discipline,structuresquare Venus
Geocentric North Pluto Node in 19'45 Cancer - collective connection involving transformation,intensity,powertrine Sun in 19'38 Pisces
Geocentric South Pluto Node in 20'05 Capricorn - collective connection involving transformation,intensity,powersextile Sun in 19'38 Pisces
Geocentric North Juno Node in 19'57 Virgo - personal connection involving committed relationship,marriage,partnershipoppose Sun in 19'38 Pisces
Geocentric South Juno in 20'28 Pisces - personal connection involving commited relationship,marriage,partnershipconjunct Sun in 19'38 Pisces
I also checked the Heliocentric Nodesall heliocentric nodes of objects move very slowly.....up to 1 degree per century. They are all collective energies.
2 degree orb for conjunction,opposition,trine,square,sextile
1 degree orb for asteroids,transneptunians
Heliocentric Mercury Nodes in 17'58 Taurus/Scorpio - collective connection involving communicationssextile/trine Sun in 19'38 Pisces(Great for communications and anything that has to do with the media)
Heliocentric Mars Nodes in 19'19 Taurus/Scorpio - collective connection involving assertion,passion,physical drivesextile/trine Sun in 19'38 Pisces
Heliocentric Pluto Nodes in 20'53 Cancer/Capricorn - collective connection involving transformation,intensity,powertrine/sextile Sun in 19'38 Pisces
Heliocentric Juno Nodes in 20'17 Virgo/Pisces - collective connection involving committed relationships,marriage,partnershipsoppose/conjunct Sun in 19'38 Pisces
Heliocentric Ceres Nodes in 20'34 Gemini/Sagittarius - collective connection involving nurturing,caretakingsquare Sun in 19'38 Pisces
Their Sun conjunct Geocentric South Juno,oppose/conjunct Heliocentric Juno Nodes seems to indicate that they could have possibly been committed relationship partners in a pastlife. It could also just mean that it's natural for them to be committed relationship partners.With the Geocentric North and South Pluto Nodes,Heliocentric Pluto Nodes trine and sextile, the conjunction, the committed relationship involves intensity,transformation,power. The Sun sextile/trine the Heliocentric Mercury Nodes and Mars Nodes indicates good communications and assertiveness in relationship. The Sun square Heliocentric Ceres Nodes make sense for them as highly famous parents,caretakers.
It's a profound relationship. It's far from superficial.Their Venus square geocentric Saturn Node indicates the seriousness,responsibilities of the relationship.
Their strong Sun-Juno Node aspects are amazing, especially they have them both geocentric (personal) and heliocentric (collective). The latter is like a good indication of a world famous couple. Their strong Sun-Pluto Node aspects (both geocentric and heliocentric) indicate a power couple.
I checked the geocentric nodes of only Mercury,Venus,Mars,Juno,Ceres,Pallas,Vesta
I didn't check the nodes of Jupiter and objects beyond because they move very slowly...they are collective energies.
1 degree for conjunction,opposition,trine,square1/2 degree for sextile
for asteroid nodes1/2 degree for conjunction,opposition,trine square15 minutes of arc for sextile
I checked not only ecliptic longitude which is the regular astrology chart coordinates, I also checked Right Ascension (Equatorial Longitude) for a multidimensional approach.
Brad's Geocentric North Mercury Node in 10'34 - Capricorn - personal connections involving communicationssquare Angelina's Mars in 10'42 Aries - assertion,passion,physical drive
Brad's Geocentric South Mercury Node in 14'08 Sagittarius - personal connections involving communications - personal connections involving communicationsoppose Angelina's Sun in 13'25 Gemini - ego,self expression,vitality
In Right Ascension,Brad's Geocentric North Mercury Node in 11'30 Capricornsquare Angelina's Moon in 10'29 Aries - emotional naturesquare Angelina's Mars in 10'29 Aries - assertion,passion,physical drive
Brad's Geocentric South Venus Node in 21'49 Sagittarius - personal connections involving love,relationships,value systemsoppose Angelina's Mercury in 22'19 Gemini R - communications,thoughts
In Right Ascension,Brad's Geocentric South Venus Node in 21'05 Sagittarius - personal connections involving love,relationships,value systemsoppose Angelina's Mercury in 21'44 Gemini - communications,thoughts
In Right Ascension,Brad's Geocentric South Mars Node in 1'18 Sagittarius - personal connections involving assertion,passion,physical drivetrine Angelina's Venus in 0'47 Leo - love,relationships,value systemstrine Angelina's Ascendant in 0'01 Leo - self,persona,relationships(could be a strong passionate,sexual attraction)
Brad's Geocentric North Juno Node in 10'21 Libra - personal connections involving committed relationships,marriage,partnershipsoppose Angelina's Mars in 10'42 Aries - assertion,passion,physical drivesextile Angelina's Neptune in 10'20 Sagittarius - inspiration,idealism,dissolution
Brad's Geocentric North Ceres Node in 17'39 Gemini - personal connections involving nurturing,caretaking,maternal mattersconjunct Angelina's Juno in 17'37 Gemini - committed relationships,marriage,partnershipssextile Angelina's Jupiter in 17'25 Aries - expansion,optimism,judgmentsextile Angelina's Midheaven in 17'52 Aries - aim of life,career,social status
In Right Ascension,Brad's Geocentric North Ceres Node in 16'34 Gemini - personal connections involving nurturing,caretaking,maternal matterssextile Angelina's Jupiter in 16'31 Aries - expansion,optimism,judgmentsextile Angelina's Midheaven in 16'28 Aries - aim of life,career,social status
Brad's Geocentric South Ceres Node in 21'59 Sagittarius - personal connections involving nurturing,caretaking,maternal mattersoppose Angelina's Mercury in 22'19 Gemini R - communications,thoughts
In Right Ascension,Brad's Geocentric South Ceres Node in 21'17 Sagittarius - personal conenctions involving nurturing,caretaking,maternal mattersoppose Angelina's Mercury in 21'44 Gemini R - communications,thoughts
Brad's Geocentric North Pallas Node in 16'52 Libra - personal connections involving creative intelligence,political beliefsoppose Angelina's Jupiter in 17'25 Aries - expansion,optimism,judgment
Angelina's Geocentric North Venus Node in 14'40 Gemini - personal connections involving love,relationships,value systemssquare Brad's Pluto in 14'13 Virgo R - transformation,intensity,power(could be an intense,sexual attraction..involving evolutionary intensified lessons,experiences)
Angelina's Geocentric South Mars Node in 15'51 Libra - personal connection involving assertion,passion,physical drivesquare Brad's Mercury in 16'06 Capricorn - communications,thoughts
In Right Ascension,Angelina's Geocentric North Mars Node in 26'56 Taurus - personal connections involving assertion,passion,physical drivetrine Brad's Midheaven in 27'13 Virgo - aim of life, career,social status
Angelina's Geocentric South Pallas Node in 10'14 Aries - personal connections involving creative intelligence,political beliefsconjunct Brad's Jupiter in 9'50 Aries - expansion,optimism,judgmentconjunct Brad's Eris in 9'55 Aries - diversity,equality,controversysquare Mars in 10'01 Capricorn - assertion,passion,physical drive
In Right Ascension,Angelina's South Pallas Node in 9'24 Aries - personal connections involving creative intelligence,political beliefsconjunct Brad's Jupiter in 9'34 Aries - expansion,optimism,judgment
In Right Ascension,Angelina's Geocentric South Juno Node in 12'07 Aries - personal connections involving committed relationships,marriage,partnershipssquare Brad's Stationary Lunar Nodes in 12'08 Cancer - emotional connections(his lunar nodes are stationary, and so strong lunar node influence.....the exact aspect is significant.....with the lunar nodes being stationary, even more significant)
It was all done on Solar Fire 6.
I don´t think natal synastry can foretell if a couple will stay together or break up. It is just a map of potential attraction and compatibility.
Maybe the progressed charts or even harsh transits to significant challenging synastric aspects may give the better clue. But even then it is not set in stone.
wow about their aspects!
And given the huge emotional attention they are being given collectively, I suppose it is no surprise that their heliocentric Nodes play a big role, too!
BTW do you prefer composite to the Davison?
"Heliocentric Pluto Nodes in 20'53 Cancer/Capricorn - collective connection involving transformation,intensity,powertrine/sextile Sun in 19'38 Pisces"They definitely are a "power-couple", and maybe that is why the collective is reacting so emotionally to them. Such an intensity sometimes evokes fear or makes it easy to project own fears and dsilikes on them.
The fact that this is a trine / sextiles seems to indicate that those aspects are not really all that insignificant, but that they should not be underestimated.
"Heliocentric Ceres Nodes in 20'34 Gemini/Sagittarius - collective connection involving nurturing,caretakingsquare Sun in 19'38 Pisces"Could it be that here all their children are indicated?
they appeared together very in love.
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