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T O P I C R E V I E WariestigerNot saying this is true of all people with this placement, as it seems to be modified by their Sunsign...most ordinary mortals don't like criticism, but I've come across one or two Mars in Pisces that positively encourage it...saying it's good for me to get angry at them, and they can *take it*!!! and I say, no, I don't really want to do this, I want to keep things on an outwardly respectful level, whatever I think privately. What does this have to do with? placidity? tolerance? because I think, surely these folks have a limited capacity for *schtick* ? astro junkieI love this question.It's amazing, isn't it? - how the Mutability of Pisces is so weak, yet so strong. The other thing which may contribute to this, and I don't know for sure ... but ..., Mars in Pisces is NOT the most "go-getter" of the Mars, and perhaps they are more comfortable with issues COMING TO THEM.I'd love to hear more on this.------------------ ... it's better to light a candle than curse the darknessoddballA cousin of mine is a cancer/aries with a pisces mars. He has side to him that gets hurt easily, but it is literally impossible to get him to say anything about it. I mean, you could torture him and he still wouldn't talk about his emotions. He gets angry at people who show any sign of weakness, and he can handle an incredible amount of criticism. It just rolls off his back.sanfranciscojim1my dear friend, Michael, who had Mars at 21Pisces, always lamented the fact and blamed it for his lack of courage/ambition/inability to do the dishes..etc.....He died in a fire in his apartment last April, just as Pluto was opposing his natal Mars and Mars in Aquarius was T-squaring with his Leo-Uranus/Taurus-Moon. He had taken sedatives that evening and an electrical fire started. he never woke up.We had been watching the Pluto transit quite intensely, and many difficulties had arisen over the previous period. We were hopeful that these difficulties would be ending as Pluto proceeded onward past it's opposition to his natal Mars. I wasn't watching the Mars in Aquarius transit, as i thought, with all the other things that had already happened, that would just be a glitch.....MoonPixiewhoohoo, i've been wanting to say something on this for awhile actually.i actually prefer when problems come to me, rather than seeking out what may be a problem. i wouldn't want to seem stupid for making drama out of nothing, you know? my sag friend thinks that i let people take advantage of me when i let them yell at me and tell me what to do, but i try to be quiet only to not make them angrier. half of the time, i don't do what they tell me to do/listen to when they tell me. i really do think that i can take any problems to come towards me. small setbacks can't keep me down. i'm a:cancer sunscorpio moonpisces marssoooo sun trine moon, sun trine mars, moon trine mars. no grand trine however.I NEVER EVER TELL PEOPLE IF SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH ME. But that's a Water element characteristic.Laurenlots of *hugs* SanFrancisco. I'm so sorry to hear that. I hope you never blame yourself for not looking at that transit. You had no way of knowing. You can't predict these things or change them. Some things, however awful, are sometimes just meant to happen. I'm very sorry this has happened to your friend, but I'm sure you will encounter him in future lives. If anything, all these problems he had would've erased a lot of bad karma.. so in his next life he'll be really happy. Sending lots of love your way teaselbabyI'm not keen on criticism, but would rather somebody come right out with it if something's up, than present a fake smile/warmth to my face. I suppose it could also be seen as a self-protective measure, since any building resentment could (and usually does) end up in a bigger explosion later, which isn't nice for either party. Does that make sense? sanfranciscojim1 Oh, and MoonPixie: quote:i actually prefer when problems come to me, rather than seeking out what may be a problem. i wouldn't want to seem stupid for making drama out of nothing, you know? I know what you mean. daydream32I have Mars in Pisces, and I never talk about my problems. I always hide them, which convinces people that I'm content and that nothing is bothering me. I can't take criticism if it's harsh or sudden, but if I ask someone to criticize me, then I can take it. ------------------sun/mercury in taurus, moon in leo, scorpio rising, venus/mars in piscespidauaI have Mars in Pisces Sag Sun / Venus, Aries moon, Mercury in Capricorn- with a Virgo rising and Pluto tightly conjunct that ascendant in the 1st house.Bring it on baby..I can take it, but the criticism better be valid and based in truth. Calling me stupid doesn't mean much if you can't tell me why.Hee heedaydream32 quote:Bring it on baby..I can take it, but the criticism better be valid and based in truth. Calling me stupid doesn't mean much if you can't tell me why.^^Exactly!!!------------------sun/mercury in taurus, moon in leo, scorpio rising, venus/mars in piscesGeminiLover75I have Mars in Pisces (Sun in Taurus, Sag ascendent, Scorpio moon). I'm quite sensitive to criticism, and although I pretend it doesn't hurt me and I put on a confident front a lot of the time, it plays on my mind and upsets me. Although I think I may have toughened up a lot in the past year, probably from having gone through a relatively rough time that goes above and beyond petty criticisms. If I'm wronged my first instinct is to strike back, but if I don't do this straight away then my stance softens a lot. If I ask for constructive criticism I can take it.spellboundI have Mars in pisces (4th house) and I have a really hard time standing up for myself or accepting criticism. Mars here is really watered down and lacks the assertion that a well-placed mars would have. I don't necessarily like being a push over, but I can't standing hurting other people's feelings. I've read that mars here is subtle, more of a sublime energy, than that of direct expression. Energy more below the surface. It does seem to add to my expression, though, giving me a more poetic energy than that of direct assertiveness. But besides Mars, I have tons of water and lots of asteroids in pisces conj my sun. But overall, it's not a physical strength. It's a wait-and-see-what-happens-then-I-will-react expression. shirtyI'm also a Mars Pisces (Sag Sun, Gem Moon, Leo Rising) and I have to agree with most of your posts.I hate when people won't tell me what they really think, and that includes avoiding criticism. I take every well-thought and backed criticism well and use it to improve myself. But when people try to cushion the truth or avoid it altogether I get VERY frustrated. To me it's insulting if a person doesn't think I can't handle their criticism.Of course I can!!! *stamps foot*shirtytuxedo meow Found this thread perusing "old threads"- I have a natal Pisces Mars. Hadn't thought of it much but agree that I would rather have someone come to me and just "spit it out" than "fake face" me and give me the willies.I, also, would rather just verbally 'blunt one out there' to someone else to keep my own head clear and expect them to be able to accept and rebound and BE GLAD IN IT! People's reactions are sometimes stunners that surprise me. Thought this was my Sag moon all this time! Also if I am upset or hurt feeling-ed you may never know why and I may never say, just think it until maybe the words erupt (sometimes at odd times) and stun the other person who may have been thinking we were just pleasantly eating ice cream together or something-LOL I am a mess for sure astro junkietuxedo meow -Do you have anything in Virgo/6th House? The Sag Mooner can easily become critical, sometimes judgemental. I think it's because the Sagittarius energy becomes somehow evolved with the Moon, or, it wants to honor it's emotions in a higher evolved way. Then maybe can't understand why someone would not care either way.------------------ ... it's better to light a candle than curse the darknesstuxedo meow6th hous Mercury in Aquarius6th house Jupiter in Capricorn6th house Pholus in CapricornThat is Natally, Astro Junkie.In my astrodienst progressed chart for 5 Dec. 2006,Lilith in Aries 0 degrees in the 6th house- i found that i am usually oblivious OR totally ignore signals that a man would like me to be his girlfriend. (i am using "girlfriend" as a word in general meaning a variety of terms relating to romantic or sexual relationships)- also have: Venus in Aquarius. Both Mars and Venus are in Natal 7th house. 12/5/06 astrodienst progressed has Venus in Taurus 8th house at 1 degree; Mars in Aries in the 7th house- cold as ice? I have uncaringly broken hearts eccentric-ly. Why? and still wah wah-ing about "where is my relationship?" i will not have a sleep-in relaxing continuing sexual relationship with anyone who isn't as strong, smart, and environmentally (PTSD) aware as i am- i make a better friend. HAHA! been awhile to answer dear one! luv, Tuxedo tuxedo meowAnd? LolRandall Mars/Pluto Emperor quote:Originally posted by ariestiger:Not saying this is true of all people with this placement, as it seems to be modified by their Sunsign...most ordinary mortals don't like criticism, but I've come across one or two Mars in Pisces that positively encourage it...saying it's good for me to get angry at them, and they can *take it*!!! and I say, no, I don't really want to do this, I want to keep things on an outwardly respectful level, whatever I think privately. What does this have to do with? placidity? tolerance? because I think, surely these folks have a limited capacity for *schtick* ? Honestly I have a mars in pisces 7th house My aspects are mars square pluto 0 orbmars sextile saturn 2 orbMars trine Moon 3 orbAnd I have a Capricorn Sun,but really I can see the "I can't take criticism insults" part.but I disagree with this being the least "go-getter". I am usually very selfish when it comes to wanting power or respect. And I have been bullied in elementary,and it has left me a huge hole.now obviously (I'm in 10th) I'm a lot more assertive,I've told people off,though people say I tend to backstab others (Gemini MC lol) but with some people here saying that it's a pushover,I really don't see it,I'm usually quite defensive.only reason is go out and hurt someone is if I get some personal Gain.
What does this have to do with? placidity? tolerance? because I think, surely these folks have a limited capacity for *schtick* ?
It's amazing, isn't it? - how the Mutability of Pisces is so weak, yet so strong. The other thing which may contribute to this, and I don't know for sure ... but ..., Mars in Pisces is NOT the most "go-getter" of the Mars, and perhaps they are more comfortable with issues COMING TO THEM.
I'd love to hear more on this.
------------------ ... it's better to light a candle than curse the darkness
i actually prefer when problems come to me, rather than seeking out what may be a problem. i wouldn't want to seem stupid for making drama out of nothing, you know? my sag friend thinks that i let people take advantage of me when i let them yell at me and tell me what to do, but i try to be quiet only to not make them angrier. half of the time, i don't do what they tell me to do/listen to when they tell me. i really do think that i can take any problems to come towards me. small setbacks can't keep me down.
i'm a:cancer sunscorpio moonpisces mars
soooo sun trine moon, sun trine mars, moon trine mars. no grand trine however.
I NEVER EVER TELL PEOPLE IF SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH ME. But that's a Water element characteristic.
Sending lots of love your way
sanfranciscojim1
Oh, and MoonPixie:
quote:i actually prefer when problems come to me, rather than seeking out what may be a problem. i wouldn't want to seem stupid for making drama out of nothing, you know?
I know what you mean.
------------------sun/mercury in taurus, moon in leo, scorpio rising, venus/mars in pisces
Bring it on baby..I can take it, but the criticism better be valid and based in truth. Calling me stupid doesn't mean much if you can't tell me why.
Hee hee
quote:Bring it on baby..I can take it, but the criticism better be valid and based in truth. Calling me stupid doesn't mean much if you can't tell me why.
^^Exactly!!!
It does seem to add to my expression, though, giving me a more poetic energy than that of direct assertiveness. But besides Mars, I have tons of water and lots of asteroids in pisces conj my sun. But overall, it's not a physical strength. It's a wait-and-see-what-happens-then-I-will-react expression.
I hate when people won't tell me what they really think, and that includes avoiding criticism. I take every well-thought and backed criticism well and use it to improve myself. But when people try to cushion the truth or avoid it altogether I get VERY frustrated.
To me it's insulting if a person doesn't think I can't handle their criticism.
Of course I can!!! *stamps foot*
shirty
Do you have anything in Virgo/6th House? The Sag Mooner can easily become critical, sometimes judgemental. I think it's because the Sagittarius energy becomes somehow evolved with the Moon, or, it wants to honor it's emotions in a higher evolved way. Then maybe can't understand why someone would not care either way.
In my astrodienst progressed chart for 5 Dec. 2006,Lilith in Aries 0 degrees in the 6th house-
i found that i am usually oblivious OR totally ignore signals that a man would like me to be his girlfriend. (i am using "girlfriend" as a word in general meaning a variety of terms relating to romantic or sexual relationships)- also have: Venus in Aquarius. Both Mars and Venus are in Natal 7th house. 12/5/06 astrodienst progressed has Venus in Taurus 8th house at 1 degree; Mars in Aries in the 7th house- cold as ice? I have uncaringly broken hearts eccentric-ly. Why? and still wah wah-ing about "where is my relationship?" i will not have a sleep-in relaxing continuing sexual relationship with anyone who isn't as strong, smart, and environmentally (PTSD) aware as i am- i make a better friend.
HAHA! been awhile to answer dear one! luv, Tuxedo
quote:Originally posted by ariestiger:Not saying this is true of all people with this placement, as it seems to be modified by their Sunsign...most ordinary mortals don't like criticism, but I've come across one or two Mars in Pisces that positively encourage it...saying it's good for me to get angry at them, and they can *take it*!!! and I say, no, I don't really want to do this, I want to keep things on an outwardly respectful level, whatever I think privately. What does this have to do with? placidity? tolerance? because I think, surely these folks have a limited capacity for *schtick* ?
Honestly I have a mars in pisces 7th house
My aspects are mars square pluto 0 orbmars sextile saturn 2 orbMars trine Moon 3 orb
And I have a Capricorn Sun,but really I can see the "I can't take criticism insults" part.but I disagree with this being the least "go-getter". I am usually very selfish when it comes to wanting power or respect. And I have been bullied in elementary,and it has left me a huge hole.now obviously (I'm in 10th) I'm a lot more assertive,I've told people off,though people say I tend to backstab others (Gemini MC lol) but with some people here saying that it's a pushover,I really don't see it,I'm usually quite defensive.only reason is go out and hurt someone is if I get some personal Gain.
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