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T O P I C R E V I E WBlue MDoes anyone know if there are any aspects in a chart that can predict your death. Any aspects that can tell you when you might die?Blue MHappy DragonBlu .... on this page there is something ..* http://www.elysian.co.uk/askastrologerarchives2.htm *.. a few years back .. a well known american astrologer passed on ..I do not remember his name .. but there was an article written up on him (magazine)as he had predicted his own death (natural death) ... at the end of the article ..(excluding death caused otherwise) .. it seemed that the transits and progressions ..from cases studied .. were all of a benign nature .. 'easy going' transit / progression aspects ..involving .. moon / jupiter / neptune (can't remember what else) .. anyhow it suggested that ..in a way .. that a natural death was a smooth passage .. as it were .. I think though .. that the consensus is that death cannot be predicted .... or it be doubtful if it can ..* *Happy Dragon.. thought i'd may as well paste the contents of that link re death ..* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *from ..* http://www.elysian.co.uk/askastrologerarchives2.htm *What is the easiest way to predict death from the natal chart?There are no easy ways to do this, or indeed, in my own view, any accurate ways even if complicated.The problem is that death can take place under many astrological influences. For some it is a sudden shock, which would might occur under a mars-Uranus transit if an accident, or a mars-Uranus-Neptune-Scorpio influence if foul play. For others death is a release, even a blessing, if they are suffering - in this case it might take place under a pleasant Venus influence, especially a Venus-Neptune transit. Some will simply die of 'old age' which may well take place when their natal Moon is transited by Pluto, Uranus, Neptune or even Jupiter.Even if one knows the person well, and therefore has knowledge of their current health status etc, I still don't believe it's possible to accurately predict death from a natal chart. Some classical astrologers use points called 'hyleg' and 'alchochoden' to do this - but this is a very complicated method and doesn't really have any statistical evidence regarding its reliability.Death is usually easy to spot in a natal chart AFTER the event - but then we can all be clever with hindsight. The code of ethics of the two UK governing astrology bodies expressly forbid attempts at predicting death - not only because it is so notoriously difficult, but also because of the distress getting it wrong (or even getting it right!) may cause a client. I can't speak for astrologers in countries outside the UK, but if someone does predict death for you or for someone close, please take it with a pinch of salt.* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Blue MHappyDragon,I was just curious because I had spoken with an astrologer or I think it was a pyschic and she told me I was going through a death phase about 10 years ago. Nothing was going right for me and I was depressed and my life now seems likes it is getting similar to that phase and I wanted to know.Thanks for the links. That website had a lot of good information.Thanks Blue McindyThere are the arabic parts, there is a good web site on them,I don't know it oss hand, but there is the part of fotune, marriage, illness , many, and the part of death. My mother studied astrology, and always said her part of death indicated death at 42 of a head ailment. By the time she was 42 we would all call and tease her because she was still around. 5 weeks before she was to turn 43 she died of a brain aynerism.This is a true story and it gave me a concrete belief in asrtology. The only problem is you need a very accurate chart to use the mathamatical formula to get the part of death.Look up arabic parts, I know I have seen a good site on it.Blue MCindy,I am so sorry hear about your mom. That is really creepy how the exact details were listed in a chart.I don't know what comes first the chicken or the egg, meaning did your mom pass because her subconcious mind believed what had been predicted in her chart or was it destiny. I have always wondered do we make things happen because of our beliefs. I know somethings that just happened and I had no belief about it or knowledge one way or another.No matter how many answers I get I still have questions...go figureBut thanks for the insight. Now I know I don't want to know anything about my death on my chart or otherwise. Everytime I have reading, whether it be pyschic or astrological I am always told I am going to live a long life until old age. I don't know if that is just something to say because they(Astrologers, Pyschic) think it is the thing you want to hear or do they beleive that.I truly don't want to live to old age. Another 20-27 years would be good for me and I certainly don't want to be here when everyone I love is gone. I already made a deal with God that he cannot take my dad before me. I would be too devastated.Blue MHappy DragonBlu ..*I was going through a death phase about 10 years ago. *10 yrs back .. well 1996 .. Saturn was just about to conjoin your natal Saturn ..i.e. the dreaded Saturn return .. ( probably why the astrologer said what they did )also .. transiting Chiron (50 year cycle) .. was opposing your natal Saturn .. then Lillith .... a point maybe the astrologer missed .. (probably was a b*****d of a time )re: the Arabic Parts .. i've a scanned article that i took off the server ..shall repost it at somestage .. maybe .. be well .. cindyActually, the web site I was refering to is www.noendpress.com, go to view complete list at the bottom of the page, then click on arabic parts, but, you really must have a very acurate chart or the information will be incorrect.ASTRO LADYCindy, I found out my part of death is in pisces 17 24...what does that exactly mean?Where can I find an interpretation of this?Happy DragonBlu .. et al ..whilst i'm here ..* * * *re: following transits .. astrological obsevations .. etc etc .... it be useful to have an astrology programme .. i.e.software ..one that is good at calculations .. and includes Chiron and Lillith for 'placements' 'free' and 'shareware' can be found at sites like "tucows.com" .. or similar ..(google .. 'freeware' .. 'shareware' .. n' see what's listed)be a thread or two on the subject in the LL back pages ...* * * *freeware for an apple mac can be found here .. http://kilian.stern.net/Kairon_e.htm * * * *Cindy .. interesting site !! ..(link above had a comma included .. so didn't work )this should go to the arabic parts gizmo ..* http://www.noendpress.com/pvachier/arabicparts/index.php ** * * *7th Keythis is probably talked about in some of the links but in traditional astrology it's possible to sometimes tell how you'll die...look at the planets and the ruler of the 8th house...Mars in the 8th can, NOY ALWAYS, mean violent deathJupiter in the 8th, peaceful death...lot of death in Pisces CAN mean death by/in water, suicide, drug overdose, etcYou need to look at the whole chart, having alot fixed signs helps, too.------------------now, where did I put it?WaterNymphOooo the part of death is interesting please do tell more!7th KeyAnother thing dealing with these lots, I do take into account the birth time, day or night, for the lot of fortune.This has alot of info on the arabic parts, some of them have kewl names: http://www.astrologycom.com/parts.html http://death.findyourfate.com/ Second link is another death astrology link,for all you Scorpio's and Scorpio sympathizers out there.------------------now, where did I put it?Blue M7th Key,You mentioned "lot of death in Pisces CAN mean death by/in water, suicide, drug overdose, etc" Do you think people who don't necessarily have a sign sun in Pisces or Cancer would have a similar death. Someone that may have a Moon in Pisces or Moon in Cancer, Pisces Rising or Cancer Rising?I know I would never ever die of drug overdose because I so hate drugs.Everytime I read someone about my profile it states to be careful of drugs. THat is the one statement astrology had totally wrong about me. I would never ever do drug and I have never ever done drugs. I won't even smoke so I really don't understand that part of my reading.I absolutely have no tolerance for drugs or people who do them. I look at them as losers.I do need to escape from reality now and then but I just take me phone off the hook or just hybernate inside for a few days if I am on vacation or off work. I can keep to myself for long periods if I am exhausted. Are you talking about a purposeful drug overdoes or someone who is on drugs dying of an overdose?Blue MTHanks for the death calculator. Unfortunately I am going to live until I am 96 years old. That is too d** long.Everyone I love will be gone. I want to live a little into old age. But I still want to look good. I am showing my vanity. Just Kidding.Blue
Does anyone know if there are any aspects in a chart that can predict your death.
Any aspects that can tell you when you might die?
Blue M
.. a few years back .. a well known american astrologer passed on ..I do not remember his name .. but there was an article written up on him (magazine)as he had predicted his own death (natural death) ... at the end of the article ..(excluding death caused otherwise) .. it seemed that the transits and progressions ..from cases studied .. were all of a benign nature .. 'easy going' transit / progression aspects ..involving .. moon / jupiter / neptune (can't remember what else) .. anyhow it suggested that ..in a way .. that a natural death was a smooth passage .. as it were ..
I think though .. that the consensus is that death cannot be predicted .... or it be doubtful if it can ..* *
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *from ..* http://www.elysian.co.uk/askastrologerarchives2.htm *
What is the easiest way to predict death from the natal chart?
There are no easy ways to do this, or indeed, in my own view, any accurate ways even if complicated.
The problem is that death can take place under many astrological influences. For some it is a sudden shock, which would might occur under a mars-Uranus transit if an accident, or a mars-Uranus-Neptune-Scorpio influence if foul play. For others death is a release, even a blessing, if they are suffering - in this case it might take place under a pleasant Venus influence, especially a Venus-Neptune transit. Some will simply die of 'old age' which may well take place when their natal Moon is transited by Pluto, Uranus, Neptune or even Jupiter.
Even if one knows the person well, and therefore has knowledge of their current health status etc, I still don't believe it's possible to accurately predict death from a natal chart. Some classical astrologers use points called 'hyleg' and 'alchochoden' to do this - but this is a very complicated method and doesn't really have any statistical evidence regarding its reliability.
Death is usually easy to spot in a natal chart AFTER the event - but then we can all be clever with hindsight. The code of ethics of the two UK governing astrology bodies expressly forbid attempts at predicting death - not only because it is so notoriously difficult, but also because of the distress getting it wrong (or even getting it right!) may cause a client. I can't speak for astrologers in countries outside the UK, but if someone does predict death for you or for someone close, please take it with a pinch of salt.* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
I was just curious because I had spoken with an astrologer or I think it was a pyschic and she told me I was going through a death phase about 10 years ago. Nothing was going right for me and I was depressed and my life now seems likes it is getting similar to that phase and I wanted to know.
Thanks for the links. That website had a lot of good information.
Thanks Blue M
I am so sorry hear about your mom. That is really creepy how the exact details were listed in a chart.
I don't know what comes first the chicken or the egg, meaning did your mom pass because her subconcious mind believed what had been predicted in her chart or was it destiny. I have always wondered do we make things happen because of our beliefs. I know somethings that just happened and I had no belief about it or knowledge one way or another.
No matter how many answers I get I still have questions...go figure
But thanks for the insight. Now I know I don't want to know anything about my death on my chart or otherwise. Everytime I have reading, whether it be pyschic or astrological I am always told I am going to live a long life until old age. I don't know if that is just something to say because they(Astrologers, Pyschic) think it is the thing you want to hear or do they beleive that.
I truly don't want to live to old age. Another 20-27 years would be good for me and I certainly don't want to be here when everyone I love is gone. I already made a deal with God that he cannot take my dad before me. I would be too devastated.
*I was going through a death phase about 10 years ago. *10 yrs back .. well 1996 .. Saturn was just about to conjoin your natal Saturn ..i.e. the dreaded Saturn return .. ( probably why the astrologer said what they did )also .. transiting Chiron (50 year cycle) .. was opposing your natal Saturn .. then Lillith .... a point maybe the astrologer missed .. (probably was a b*****d of a time )
re: the Arabic Parts .. i've a scanned article that i took off the server ..shall repost it at somestage .. maybe ..
be well ..
I found out my part of death is in pisces 17 24...what does that exactly mean?
Where can I find an interpretation of this?
look at the planets and the ruler of the 8th house...
Mars in the 8th can, NOY ALWAYS, mean violent death
Jupiter in the 8th, peaceful death...
lot of death in Pisces CAN mean death by/in water, suicide, drug overdose, etc
You need to look at the whole chart, having alot fixed signs helps, too.
------------------now, where did I put it?
This has alot of info on the arabic parts, some of them have kewl names: http://www.astrologycom.com/parts.html http://death.findyourfate.com/
Second link is another death astrology link,for all you Scorpio's and Scorpio sympathizers out there.
You mentioned "lot of death in Pisces CAN mean death by/in water, suicide, drug overdose, etc"
Do you think people who don't necessarily have a sign sun in Pisces or Cancer would have a similar death. Someone that may have a Moon in Pisces or Moon in Cancer, Pisces Rising or Cancer Rising?
I know I would never ever die of drug overdose because I so hate drugs.
Everytime I read someone about my profile it states to be careful of drugs. THat is the one statement astrology had totally wrong about me. I would never ever do drug and I have never ever done drugs. I won't even smoke so I really don't understand that part of my reading.
I absolutely have no tolerance for drugs or people who do them. I look at them as losers.
I do need to escape from reality now and then but I just take me phone off the hook or just hybernate inside for a few days if I am on vacation or off work. I can keep to myself for long periods if I am exhausted.
Are you talking about a purposeful drug overdoes or someone who is on drugs dying of an overdose?
Everyone I love will be gone. I want to live a little into old age. But I still want to look good. I am showing my vanity. Just Kidding.
Blue
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