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T O P I C R E V I E Wsue g http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?cid=y0vfileSKRLSn-u1161038032&lang=e&gm=a1&nhor=18&nho2=16&btyp=2&mth=gw&sday=26&smon=1&syr=2007&hsy=0&zod=&orbp=&rs=0&ast= Sorry I still cant get the hang of posting the chart...This is Jacob our son.... Anything stand out to any of you?Anything i could help him with......or gain an understanding in...Thanks..Green FairyIs he a whiner? *no offence,just saw lots of 6th house influence*sue gIs he EVER???OMG YES HE IS...No offence taken at all.......hahaha...drives me bloody mad sometimes Thanks for that!Green FairyWhat i see is that he'll probably have an unpredictable professional life,and won't be a wuss when having to claim his rights.He might even become a syndicalist lolSalisaEDIThe has AC on the cusp of gemini and cancer. maybe that might give him an outgoing yet sensitive/shy natureI'd be wary of his venus quincux saturn & moon quincux jupiter. try help build up his self worth/confidence. he might have a tendency to underestimate his abilities.sun conjunct chiron, he might do well going in to a teaching or healing professionsun conjunct venus, a magnetic personality, openly affectionate,dramatic with venus quincux AC make sure he developes proper bounderies with people, as this aspect can make one overly compromising, Giving in to what other want just to keep the peace.He has Aquarius on his tenth house cusp quote:The Aquarius influence in the tenth house denotes original and inventive approach to the career and life work. Uranus, the ruler of Aquarius, is the planet of change, freedom, humanity, and rebellion. You may have new and ingenious ideas to present the public. You are a team player and function well as a part of the team. Your goals are likely to be stated in advance, and your aim will be accomplishments producing publicly useful results. The tenth house Aquarius personality is inclined to a public life. You may be involved in many humanitarian ventures if you are in touch with that part of your nature. Yet, you are likely to feel a real sense of reluctance to the "glare and scare" connected with public recognition. There is a natural reluctance in your personality to risk-taking in the career. This must be overcome to achieve true success and measure up to your potential. You must be willing to take chances. No matter what career you finally choose, your special inventive quality will be stamped on the end product.this also fits in with the sun/chiron conjunction aspect in his sixth house (work place).... His uranus is in his 9th so quote:Uranus in the ninth house exerts its erratic behavior in matter of higher thought, law, religion, philosophy and travel. This placement denotes a liberal and advanced philosophy of life. You have an intuitive, socialistic and utopian outlook. Your mind never seems to function along conventional paths, and you are more than willing to put aside customs of the past favoring new ideas. When it comes to traveling, you are independent and adventurous, enjoying long trips to exotic places. how'd I do? ------------------I ask for so little just let me rule you.And you can have everything that you wantJust fear me, love me, do as I say and I will be you slave. ~Jareth the Goblin King, LabrynthBornUnderDioscuriHmm i know a few Scorpios with moon in Libra influence and they make some of the most understanding and loyal friends. eatbooks11th/Saturn- he doesnt have many friends, probably keeps to himself a lot.29degree rising/gemini-hes probably very chatty, excessively....also his looks might change a lot..gemini the twin.....always look different depending on the day...mercury conj. pluto- likes to research, can be nosey, likes deep converstations, can be very intelligent....he might be very sensitive/allergic to things, 6th house emphasis, he might have health issues....sun trine jupiter in the 10th house- hes probably very funny, and optimistic, career wise, he'll succeed....10th in aqua- his career will be unique, he has the possibility of doing something nobody has done before, he'd be good in science/astrology.mars opposite jupiter- huge temper, does he get very angry fast? add the scorpio sting, im guessing hes a handful...mars/4th house- i grew up with someone with this aspect, and shes a damn b1tch....also a scorpio, this means hes aggressive in the home, she wasnt like this in her younger years, but once she was a teenager, she was a nightmare! she would start fights, physical fights too....be careful with this one...venus loosely conj. pluto and sextiles neptune/add neptune in the 8th- he will be very romantic person, very loving, his love affairs will have fate mixed into them.....venus aspecting pluto always brings that sort of effect...venus quinunix saturn- he probably has a hard time showing his feelings on some level, this might not be a huge issue considering he has other lovely venus aspects....hope this helps.Gemini NymphIs there something in particular you want us to look at? I ask because I commented on his chart before, and others here have gone over some of the same ground. All I can say right now, is at this age, he should start feelign his Martian energies more and more. For a Martian Virgo with a loaded 6th house, this can be a very confusing time. The world's starting to become a bigger - and scarier - place. Chaos is everywhere to his eyes, and he feels very unsure. His Virgoan instincts are to retreat, withdraw and reflect. He may become more anxious at school or in unfamiliar social situations. He may start having stress-related illnesses, or feign being sick to avoid things. If pressured he may become argumentive and moody. I doubt the next few years are going to be easy for you as his mother. I think it's key to not let his anxieties get to overwhelming for him and let him withdraw too much. Allow him his privacy and personal time, but also see to it he's spending some time reading/writing (things of his own interests, not school work), spending some time outdoors, and spending time with small gatherings of family or other people he's comfortable around. Also, encourage him to laugh and see humor in things. sue gI am a little blown away by all your comments cos they all ring true....wow!! Thanks a many to all of you.... Gem, when you asked what you wanted me to have looked at and then when you continued on...I sort of gasped because at the moment he is struggling with all the things you mentioned....Dont wanna go to school and struggling with finding friends...i am worried about his need for just being with me and his time alone,...I am a little down on my knees at the moment...drained with the situation...I love him so much but his outbursts of temper and then his subsequent crying fits have me extremely stressed and tired at times...He is also uncooperative and I struggle to get him to do as I ask But oh to have others understand through looking at his birth details had me reeling...So many thanks...What would i do without ye guys?Please take some love from me Gemini NymphAs for friends his own age - I don't see this as something he really needs right now. That he few or no friends at school makes it difficult when he's at school, but beyond that, he's probably better off in the company of older people. It's likely he doesn't feel his peers right now are that interesting, and he's probably a little ahead of them mentally and spiritually. Emotionally, he's struggling, but he'll likely balance out by the time he's 15 or 16 - yeah that's a ways off, but I don't think you need to fear that this is going to be how he always is.This is an issue I have with how we educate young kids - often tiems, for their emotional development, having them around their peers isn't really what they need. They need more interaction iwth mature people who can teach them the skills they need ot handle their emotions. Few kids today have this. I think your son has a greater than average need to spend tiem around older people so he can learn to cope with his emotional struggles better.If he wants to be with you, go for walks together, about 45 minutes to an hour, and as often during the week as you can allow. If his emotional outbursts are this bad, physical activity will dedfinitely help. He's a Mercurial and he needs to work out that nervous energy somehow. Crying and tantrums are one way, but there's better, healthier ways. Strong Virgo/6H energy is paradoxical because while it's mental energy that directly effects the physical, the native often isn't very aware of that connection. Physical activity heightens that awareness - hence why many Virgoans are drawn to exercise. There's a big payoff for them - that sense of being aware and in tune with their bodies has a very strong appeal for them and helps them find that inner balance they yearn for. Walking is the easiest and cheapest form of phsyical activity available, but pretty much anything that gets his whole body moving is great. Swimming, cycling, rollerblading and martial arts are really good too. I don't know what's available and affordable to you where you live, but whatever is doable and your son's willing ot try, go for it. About the stubboenness - there's a couple levels to that. He's feeling very unsure about himself right now, and he's very reactive to pressure. Anytime someone asks him to do something, he thinks is just anther opportunity for him to fail or be judged. And he defends himself with his strengths - with right now is mainly his strong will. LOL. So don't take that personally. Patience is important, but seriously, *physical activity* will help with this too. He'll likely drag his feet at first - or fear you're going to make him gone the football team or something, where he has to compete with his peers. But make clear you're not asking him that. It may take a couple months, but I think he'll come around. Good luck - I know this can't be easy. sue gThankyou Gem, thankyou very much We were doing music today, as the weather was bad..He is an amazing key board player and makes up his own tunes...he also drummed whilst I sang...We danced a lot too.....he has an amazing sense of natural rhythm.And by the time bedtime arrives...I am completely exhausted...thank God his father will put him to bed...I sometimes feel like I cannot handle this complex and full on little person, and if it wasnt for the fact that I love so intensely and have a belief in the higher power.....well maybe I would go under...He astounds me....I feel there is something very strong and unusual about him...A gypsy once said "one day girl, you are gonna be very proud of him, he has the potential for fame"Oh my.... Thanks again love Gemini NymphHey, so I was right about him having artistic talent? Cool! I went back and looked wrote I wrote before - I mentione dthat with Jupiter is Pisces, his chances of being successful with his artistic talents are pretty good. Yeah, I'm sure he's a handful. I envy you though - that's the kind of kid I want. (Don't envy you about bedtime though - LOL) Jan_AsueOn the one hand, last year was really hard for him with Saturn in Leo. It looked almost like a depression.On the other hand Jupiter in Scorpio and now in Sagittarius has brought some happy moments. P.S. All school problems will be solved this year, health will be good. sue gOh Gem......wonderful words....I am so excited for him....he has that lovely Virgo modesty...a modest genius I feel Jan, many thanks...your words were very uplifting and positive...Thanks ladies, it means a lot to me... ((((((((((((hugs)))))))))) to you
Sorry I still cant get the hang of posting the chart...
This is Jacob our son....
Anything stand out to any of you?
Anything i could help him with......or gain an understanding in...
Thanks..
OMG YES HE IS...
No offence taken at all.......hahaha...
drives me bloody mad sometimes
Thanks for that!
sun conjunct chiron, he might do well going in to a teaching or healing profession
sun conjunct venus, a magnetic personality, openly affectionate,dramatic
with venus quincux AC make sure he developes proper bounderies with people, as this aspect can make one overly compromising, Giving in to what other want just to keep the peace.
He has Aquarius on his tenth house cusp
quote:The Aquarius influence in the tenth house denotes original and inventive approach to the career and life work. Uranus, the ruler of Aquarius, is the planet of change, freedom, humanity, and rebellion. You may have new and ingenious ideas to present the public. You are a team player and function well as a part of the team. Your goals are likely to be stated in advance, and your aim will be accomplishments producing publicly useful results. The tenth house Aquarius personality is inclined to a public life. You may be involved in many humanitarian ventures if you are in touch with that part of your nature. Yet, you are likely to feel a real sense of reluctance to the "glare and scare" connected with public recognition. There is a natural reluctance in your personality to risk-taking in the career. This must be overcome to achieve true success and measure up to your potential. You must be willing to take chances. No matter what career you finally choose, your special inventive quality will be stamped on the end product.
this also fits in with the sun/chiron conjunction aspect in his sixth house (work place).... His uranus is in his 9th so
quote:Uranus in the ninth house exerts its erratic behavior in matter of higher thought, law, religion, philosophy and travel. This placement denotes a liberal and advanced philosophy of life. You have an intuitive, socialistic and utopian outlook. Your mind never seems to function along conventional paths, and you are more than willing to put aside customs of the past favoring new ideas. When it comes to traveling, you are independent and adventurous, enjoying long trips to exotic places.
29degree rising/gemini-hes probably very chatty, excessively....also his looks might change a lot..gemini the twin.....always look different depending on the day...
mercury conj. pluto- likes to research, can be nosey, likes deep converstations, can be very intelligent....
he might be very sensitive/allergic to things, 6th house emphasis, he might have health issues....
sun trine jupiter in the 10th house- hes probably very funny, and optimistic, career wise, he'll succeed....10th in aqua- his career will be unique, he has the possibility of doing something nobody has done before, he'd be good in science/astrology.
mars opposite jupiter- huge temper, does he get very angry fast? add the scorpio sting, im guessing hes a handful...
mars/4th house- i grew up with someone with this aspect, and shes a damn b1tch....also a scorpio, this means hes aggressive in the home, she wasnt like this in her younger years, but once she was a teenager, she was a nightmare! she would start fights, physical fights too....be careful with this one...
venus loosely conj. pluto and sextiles neptune/add neptune in the 8th- he will be very romantic person, very loving, his love affairs will have fate mixed into them.....
venus aspecting pluto always brings that sort of effect...
venus quinunix saturn- he probably has a hard time showing his feelings on some level, this might not be a huge issue considering he has other lovely venus aspects....
hope this helps.
I ask because I commented on his chart before, and others here have gone over some of the same ground.
All I can say right now, is at this age, he should start feelign his Martian energies more and more. For a Martian Virgo with a loaded 6th house, this can be a very confusing time. The world's starting to become a bigger - and scarier - place. Chaos is everywhere to his eyes, and he feels very unsure. His Virgoan instincts are to retreat, withdraw and reflect. He may become more anxious at school or in unfamiliar social situations. He may start having stress-related illnesses, or feign being sick to avoid things. If pressured he may become argumentive and moody. I doubt the next few years are going to be easy for you as his mother.
I think it's key to not let his anxieties get to overwhelming for him and let him withdraw too much. Allow him his privacy and personal time, but also see to it he's spending some time reading/writing (things of his own interests, not school work), spending some time outdoors, and spending time with small gatherings of family or other people he's comfortable around. Also, encourage him to laugh and see humor in things.
Gem, when you asked what you wanted me to have looked at and then when you continued on...I sort of gasped because at the moment he is struggling with all the things you mentioned....
Dont wanna go to school and struggling with finding friends...i am worried about his need for just being with me and his time alone,...
I am a little down on my knees at the moment...drained with the situation...
I love him so much but his outbursts of temper and then his subsequent crying fits have me extremely stressed and tired at times...
He is also uncooperative and I struggle to get him to do as I ask
But oh to have others understand through looking at his birth details had me reeling...
So many thanks...
What would i do without ye guys?
Please take some love from me
This is an issue I have with how we educate young kids - often tiems, for their emotional development, having them around their peers isn't really what they need. They need more interaction iwth mature people who can teach them the skills they need ot handle their emotions. Few kids today have this. I think your son has a greater than average need to spend tiem around older people so he can learn to cope with his emotional struggles better.
If he wants to be with you, go for walks together, about 45 minutes to an hour, and as often during the week as you can allow. If his emotional outbursts are this bad, physical activity will dedfinitely help. He's a Mercurial and he needs to work out that nervous energy somehow. Crying and tantrums are one way, but there's better, healthier ways.
Strong Virgo/6H energy is paradoxical because while it's mental energy that directly effects the physical, the native often isn't very aware of that connection. Physical activity heightens that awareness - hence why many Virgoans are drawn to exercise. There's a big payoff for them - that sense of being aware and in tune with their bodies has a very strong appeal for them and helps them find that inner balance they yearn for.
Walking is the easiest and cheapest form of phsyical activity available, but pretty much anything that gets his whole body moving is great. Swimming, cycling, rollerblading and martial arts are really good too. I don't know what's available and affordable to you where you live, but whatever is doable and your son's willing ot try, go for it.
About the stubboenness - there's a couple levels to that. He's feeling very unsure about himself right now, and he's very reactive to pressure. Anytime someone asks him to do something, he thinks is just anther opportunity for him to fail or be judged. And he defends himself with his strengths - with right now is mainly his strong will. LOL. So don't take that personally. Patience is important, but seriously, *physical activity* will help with this too. He'll likely drag his feet at first - or fear you're going to make him gone the football team or something, where he has to compete with his peers. But make clear you're not asking him that. It may take a couple months, but I think he'll come around.
Good luck - I know this can't be easy.
We were doing music today, as the weather was bad..
He is an amazing key board player and makes up his own tunes...he also drummed whilst I sang...
We danced a lot too.....he has an amazing sense of natural rhythm.
And by the time bedtime arrives...I am completely exhausted...thank God his father will put him to bed...
I sometimes feel like I cannot handle this complex and full on little person, and if it wasnt for the fact that I love so intensely and have a belief in the higher power.....well maybe I would go under...
He astounds me....I feel there is something very strong and unusual about him...
A gypsy once said "one day girl, you are gonna be very proud of him, he has the potential for fame"
Oh my....
Thanks again love
Yeah, I'm sure he's a handful. I envy you though - that's the kind of kid I want. (Don't envy you about bedtime though - LOL)
Jan, many thanks...your words were very uplifting and positive...
Thanks ladies, it means a lot to me...
((((((((((((hugs)))))))))) to you
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