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T O P I C R E V I E WMoonDreamer81Which of these god-awful placements is making me always want someone I can't have?They either don't like me,or they're already in a committed relationship,or I end up with someone abusive!This sux!!So which is it...~Neptune alone in the 7th(fantasies/illusions) in Saggitarius~Venus in the 12th(called a "heartache placement") in Gemini~Chiron in the 12th in TaurusI'm not feeling very lucky in love at the moment I guess I must be really evolved to have all 3 of these placements to work through in this incarnation....Plus Sun opp Moon and Pluto conj Juno Natally.Advice anyone??------------------S:TaurusASC:GeminiM:Scorpio~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~2007 Solar Return:S:TaurusASC:VirgoM:Geminialanabelle86If you ask me... it's your Sagittarius (exaggerated) Neptune (illusions and idealism) in the 7th house (towards relationships and other people in general)Also... Sun opp Moon will make you constantly search for satisfaction that never seems to come. I have the square, so I'm the sure the opposition is miserable! Also, also... Venus in the 12th (I have this one too. It's on the cusp of the 11th and 12th houses....12th according to Equal system) shows general disappointment in love. No matter how things are going, it will never feel quite good enough.------------------Sagittarius AC, Sun in Scorpio, Moon in LeoMoonDreamer81Would my Desc. being Sag. also make me like someone who lives in another state?Sag. rules travel and distance right?Thanks for your input,BTW.Hmmm..what degree is your Sun,alanabelle86?I have several Scorpio placements.Just curious?------------------S:TaurusASC:GeminiM:Scorpio~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~2007 Solar Return:S:TaurusASC:VirgoM:Geminiafrokenyour evil twin here.i haven't got a best friend for a vvery long time.sometimes its even hard to feel satisfied. i have saturn square moon and sun. its awful. and moon opposite pluto.. ------------------Sun in ScorpioMoon in TaurusAsc in Sagittariusalanabelle86Yes it would. A Sagittarius DC could make you inclined to date men who live far away, be in a long distance relationship, or date men from other cultures or with totally different backgrounds from yours. Uranus does it too, if you have any contacts to your 7th house...I have a Uranus opposite DC, and all the successful relationships I've been in have been long distance.My Sun is at 2'53 Scorpio.------------------Sagittarius AC, Sun in Scorpio, Moon in Leocat71MD81 - I also have Neptune in Sag in 7th, and I have sun sqr moon. Thank goodness my Venus is in 5th, however I do think that this leans me towards people who don't commit long-term.I too have the affliction of seeming to be attracted to those who I (seemingly) can't have, however don't give up hope Who says you can't have them? I mean if it's because they're far away or in a different social circle for example, it could be that one day you turn a corner on a certain street and crash into them - literally! Even if they're with someone else when you meet them, doesn't mean that it will last... Believe in your own self-worth! They would be lucky to have YOU!I've been wondering recently if this is saying something about me personally. Perhaps I have sub-consciously chosen these types in fear of losing my own independence???I definitely want someone to share my life/love with, but not at the expense of sacrificing who I am - I LOVE me!!! Have you tried looking at Magi stuff, I found some interesting stuff, like Cinderella links and Golden links, which I have and can indicate marrying someone powerful in status or even very rich - I am 35 and as yet, have never been married but I do not stop believing that it will happen...and it will last forever when it does cat71alanabelle - what about DC in Scorpio - though I also have Jupiter in 7th (Sag), and Uranus is sextile to Jupiter (wide), I've had two major relationships break-up when I've gone over-seas, despite all the promises Interestingly, recent readings from two seperate palm/tarot readers have told me that the guy I like now and I will not get together until I go OS - hopefully this will break the pattern and I'll actually form a relationship from moving rather then losing it! alanabelle86 quote:alanabelle - what about DC in Scorpio - though I also have Jupiter in 7th (Sag), and Uranus is sextile to Jupiter (wide), I've had two major relationships break-up when I've gone over-seas, despite all the promises DC in Scorpio would basically mean your need for a partner and relationships in general center around passion, loyalty, and a deep profound connection. It also shows jealous and suspicious, controlling partners (at worst). Maybe they broke up because you leaving overseas would be a loss of general "control" over the relationship...Not knowing what's going to happen...Though Jupiter (long distance) is there, it doesn't always *mean* you're capable of a long distance relationship. At least, it's general happiness and positive growth through relationships... I can also mean expecting way too much or the opposite- way too little. It could mean being over-generous towards others, or it could be way too much self-indulgence and self-focus. It could mean that you also desire a partner who's open, adventurous, and is capable to enjoy the good side of life...someone who can help you understand the larger picture and grow as an individual...A Sagittarian type individual....Uranus sexile Jupiter would make your passionate (Scorpio DC) and adventurous (Jupiter) partners be quite original and independent (Uranus) as well.I mean Uranus in aspect to the 7th house or it's ruler, not so much planets IN the 7th house, though it does have an impact as well. Where is your Mars/Pluto by sign, aspect, house?And where is your Moon? I've found the Moon has to do with how we feel about relationships...in addition to the 7th house.I mentioned my Uranus opp. DC in regards to long distance...but I also have Saturn opp. DC, with Chiron conj. DC and Jupiter in the 3rd/4th house...making me a person used to distanced relations with family etc. I need a TON of space...and I don't mind it...Plus my DC is in Gemini...all my partners are always on the go anyway... ------------------Sagittarius AC, Sun in Scorpio, Moon in Leocat71Thanks for clarifying that for me Alanabelle *DC in Scorpio...partner and relationships in general center around passion, loyalty, and a deep profound connection... also shows jealous and suspicious, controlling partners (at worst) - in the past definitely - ** Jupiter...could mean being over-generous towards others - again defintiely me - ** you also desire a partner who's open, adventurous, and is capable to enjoy the good side of life...someone who can help you understand the larger picture and grow as an individual... - yep, yep, yep - *My Mars is Aqua 9th; Pluto Libra 4th; Moon Cancer 2ndAgain thanks for the feedback izodesmozinaHave faith, dear Moon! The right time will come! CoralFrequencyMoonDreamer, What was the relationship of your parents like?I have Neptune in the 7th (conjunct Mars), but I'm the opposite of you.. in that I'm much more likely to fall in love or "in like" as soon as I find out someone is in love with me.. so I think to myself - that's so sweet, and I date them or go out with them eventually, down the track. I guess I think - if this person cares about me so much, we must have things in common.. that maybe I haven't noticed.. or maybe I didn't know them well enough.. so I'd want to get to know them. Actually, question: how do you react upon finding out that someone is in love with you?And an astrology question: What signs are your Venus/Mars in and what major aspect do they make, if any?Alanabelle, I have a Sag DC.. I wouldn't mind a long distance relationship ONLY if it started in the here and now though and then became long distance.. and I'd love traveling back and forth to see the person or alternatively traveling with them. The main reasons I'd want this are - the travel (very important to me), to find out more about people who come from a different background.. and because I love personal freedom and having my space.. I also have no problem giving the other person as much space as they like. I think relationships are much happier when you are not constantly in each others' faces.. If I was in a long distance thing where out of lack of funds or some other problem we actually didn't travel.. or see each other regularly.. I wouldn't remain in that relationship.. SattvicMoonMoonDreamer, I have my Neptune in Sag, and Chiron in 12th house, and in a love-relation my partners have always gone away from me without ANY reason at all, and the same wheel has repeated since July 7th. So, I am not sure if it is the placement, or was it my "need" to have someone to love me - but this time, I have realized that the lessons life taught me has made me stand tall, this new twist in life has not affected me negatively, and I also find that she is in a very desperate emotional stage right now. Well......------------------ Welcome to my Home Page!yourfriendinspirit{{{ Just Sending Love Out To All Of You }}}luna*tic12I think Wanting What You Can't Have is a universal human theme. Everyone is plagued by it. Everyone.Although, I'd think that strong neptune/twelfth house influences would make it harder... coupled with strong jupiter, maybe, giving you the drive to chase futile dreams...?------------------Cancer Sun/Leo Moon/Leo Rising/Sun and Moon in 12th House.Diandra23Moon,i trully believe you and you man will be together!I really do - try not to think that you are chasing an impossible dream - its is POSSIBLE look at me for example :P - i never thought it was impossible and we are nailing it Have Faith Moon In this thread i realised some similarities with my own and his chart.We have the same planets in Sag: uranus,neptune ( his on his 5th and mine on 3rd houses) I to have Jup in SAg on my 3rd.With mars in 11th ( ruller of my 7rd) skuaring uranus/jup and trines Neptune.Jup conjuncts mars.His Saturn ( ruller of his 7th) sextiles uranus,and trines Moon in Aqua (only planet on his 7th).We two are also in a long-distance relationship- does this placements show taht reality?ThankxCoralFrequency quote:I think Wanting What You Can't Have is a universal human theme. Everyone is plagued by it. Everyone.I don't think so.. lol, unless I'm an alien. CoralFrequencyI mean I don't see how, if you have parents who love you to pieces.. how you'd ever feel that way.In my case, the people who brought me up.. specially my father figure.. he was *right* in every way.. and I always felt loved, so I *know* what I want in a man.. very clearly. I had a very close relationship to both.. and pretty much get on nicely with everyone in my family. How could I ever go for someone who doesn't make me feel valued.. when I know that as a child I was always valued.. I could never do that.. Even out of respect for the people who brought me up, I couldn't do anything that would harm me.. because it would harm them. They don't deserve that. They *deserve* to see me happy with a good man and a good career.. and see that the positive and kind things they taught me had a positive impact.How could I ever hurt them, by putting myself in a position where I am unhappy and undervalued? lol My grandpa would get his shot gun and kill the poor bast*ard jk (well not totally)... but na I'd never do that.
~Neptune alone in the 7th(fantasies/illusions) in Saggitarius
~Venus in the 12th(called a "heartache placement") in Gemini
~Chiron in the 12th in Taurus
I'm not feeling very lucky in love at the moment I guess I must be really evolved to have all 3 of these placements to work through in this incarnation....Plus Sun opp Moon and Pluto conj Juno Natally.Advice anyone??
------------------S:TaurusASC:GeminiM:Scorpio~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~2007 Solar Return:S:TaurusASC:VirgoM:Gemini
Also... Sun opp Moon will make you constantly search for satisfaction that never seems to come. I have the square, so I'm the sure the opposition is miserable!
Also, also... Venus in the 12th (I have this one too. It's on the cusp of the 11th and 12th houses....12th according to Equal system) shows general disappointment in love. No matter how things are going, it will never feel quite good enough.
------------------Sagittarius AC, Sun in Scorpio, Moon in Leo
i haven't got a best friend for a vvery long time.
sometimes its even hard to feel satisfied. i have saturn square moon and sun. its awful. and moon opposite pluto..
------------------Sun in ScorpioMoon in TaurusAsc in Sagittarius
I have a Uranus opposite DC, and all the successful relationships I've been in have been long distance.
My Sun is at 2'53 Scorpio.
I've been wondering recently if this is saying something about me personally. Perhaps I have sub-consciously chosen these types in fear of losing my own independence???I definitely want someone to share my life/love with, but not at the expense of sacrificing who I am - I LOVE me!!!
Have you tried looking at Magi stuff, I found some interesting stuff, like Cinderella links and Golden links, which I have and can indicate marrying someone powerful in status or even very rich - I am 35 and as yet, have never been married but I do not stop believing that it will happen...and it will last forever when it does
Interestingly, recent readings from two seperate palm/tarot readers have told me that the guy I like now and I will not get together until I go OS - hopefully this will break the pattern and I'll actually form a relationship from moving rather then losing it!
quote:alanabelle - what about DC in Scorpio - though I also have Jupiter in 7th (Sag), and Uranus is sextile to Jupiter (wide), I've had two major relationships break-up when I've gone over-seas, despite all the promises
DC in Scorpio would basically mean your need for a partner and relationships in general center around passion, loyalty, and a deep profound connection. It also shows jealous and suspicious, controlling partners (at worst). Maybe they broke up because you leaving overseas would be a loss of general "control" over the relationship...Not knowing what's going to happen...
Though Jupiter (long distance) is there, it doesn't always *mean* you're capable of a long distance relationship. At least, it's general happiness and positive growth through relationships... I can also mean expecting way too much or the opposite- way too little. It could mean being over-generous towards others, or it could be way too much self-indulgence and self-focus. It could mean that you also desire a partner who's open, adventurous, and is capable to enjoy the good side of life...someone who can help you understand the larger picture and grow as an individual...A Sagittarian type individual....
Uranus sexile Jupiter would make your passionate (Scorpio DC) and adventurous (Jupiter) partners be quite original and independent (Uranus) as well.
I mean Uranus in aspect to the 7th house or it's ruler, not so much planets IN the 7th house, though it does have an impact as well. Where is your Mars/Pluto by sign, aspect, house?
And where is your Moon? I've found the Moon has to do with how we feel about relationships...in addition to the 7th house.
I mentioned my Uranus opp. DC in regards to long distance...but I also have Saturn opp. DC, with Chiron conj. DC and Jupiter in the 3rd/4th house...making me a person used to distanced relations with family etc. I need a TON of space...and I don't mind it...Plus my DC is in Gemini...all my partners are always on the go anyway...
My Mars is Aqua 9th; Pluto Libra 4th; Moon Cancer 2ndAgain thanks for the feedback
I have Neptune in the 7th (conjunct Mars), but I'm the opposite of you.. in that I'm much more likely to fall in love or "in like" as soon as I find out someone is in love with me.. so I think to myself - that's so sweet, and I date them or go out with them eventually, down the track. I guess I think - if this person cares about me so much, we must have things in common.. that maybe I haven't noticed.. or maybe I didn't know them well enough.. so I'd want to get to know them.
Actually, question: how do you react upon finding out that someone is in love with you?
And an astrology question: What signs are your Venus/Mars in and what major aspect do they make, if any?
Alanabelle, I have a Sag DC.. I wouldn't mind a long distance relationship ONLY if it started in the here and now though and then became long distance.. and I'd love traveling back and forth to see the person or alternatively traveling with them.
The main reasons I'd want this are - the travel (very important to me), to find out more about people who come from a different background.. and because I love personal freedom and having my space.. I also have no problem giving the other person as much space as they like. I think relationships are much happier when you are not constantly in each others' faces..
If I was in a long distance thing where out of lack of funds or some other problem we actually didn't travel.. or see each other regularly.. I wouldn't remain in that relationship..
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Although, I'd think that strong neptune/twelfth house influences would make it harder... coupled with strong jupiter, maybe, giving you the drive to chase futile dreams...?
------------------Cancer Sun/Leo Moon/Leo Rising/Sun and Moon in 12th House.
i trully believe you and you man will be together!I really do - try not to think that you are chasing an impossible dream - its is POSSIBLE
look at me for example :P - i never thought it was impossible and we are nailing it
Have Faith Moon
In this thread i realised some similarities with my own and his chart.
We have the same planets in Sag: uranus,neptune ( his on his 5th and mine on 3rd houses) I to have Jup in SAg on my 3rd.
With mars in 11th ( ruller of my 7rd) skuaring uranus/jup and trines Neptune.Jup conjuncts mars.
His Saturn ( ruller of his 7th) sextiles uranus,and trines Moon in Aqua (only planet on his 7th).
We two are also in a long-distance relationship- does this placements show taht reality?
Thankx
quote:I think Wanting What You Can't Have is a universal human theme. Everyone is plagued by it. Everyone.
I don't think so.. lol, unless I'm an alien.
In my case, the people who brought me up.. specially my father figure.. he was *right* in every way.. and I always felt loved, so I *know* what I want in a man.. very clearly. I had a very close relationship to both.. and pretty much get on nicely with everyone in my family.
How could I ever go for someone who doesn't make me feel valued.. when I know that as a child I was always valued.. I could never do that.. Even out of respect for the people who brought me up, I couldn't do anything that would harm me.. because it would harm them. They don't deserve that. They *deserve* to see me happy with a good man and a good career.. and see that the positive and kind things they taught me had a positive impact.
How could I ever hurt them, by putting myself in a position where I am unhappy and undervalued? lol My grandpa would get his shot gun and kill the poor bast*ard jk (well not totally)... but na I'd never do that.
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