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T O P I C R E V I E Waquaspryt69I used to be one of them most organized people around. Everything had a place and it better be in it. Bills got paid preferably early, or at least on time. Nowadays, I have everything scattered to the four winds, bills get paid late or barely in the nick of time to avoid late fees. When I go looking for stuff, especially important papers, I can't find a damn thing. What the heck is going on?? It bothers me to see the mess I've created, yet I haven't the oomph to do anything about straightening it all out. I can't seem to shake the procrastinator that appeared out of nowhere in me. How does one figure this out? Should I look at my progressed chart, or is it an aspect whose affects I've been feeling for approximately 5 yrs now?? If that's the case, then obviously it has to do with one of the slow moving planets for it to last this long. Right? Has anyone else experienced this? AstraHave a look at your progressed chart and any transits taking place by going to astro.com.Meanwhile, do your best o get organized!SagSunI was very organized up until 5 years ago. Now I live in constant chaos ... well, it's not really that bad, but I am definitely a lot more chaotic than I used to be a few years ago. I don't know if there's an astrological reason for this, though. Maybe my stellium in Sagittarius is starting to show more strongly...Azalakshspry ~Welcome to the World of Disorder!! Parts of my life are very organized, yet other parts are total chaos.....As far as progressed planets, the Outers are not even considered, as they barely move in the progressed chart. It's kinda the opposite of transits: the transiting Outers can wreak havoc in your life (*if* your life needs changing) and stick around for a long time), while the Personal Planets move so quickly that their effects can be minimal and short-lived. In secondary progressions, the Lights and the Personal Planets are the ones to consider -- that's why the progressed chart only lists positions for them in the Natal/Transits/Progressions chart selection at astro.com. Your pMoon is bang-on your nMC. Your pSun has moved into Cappy so my guess is that you'll clear up the chaos soon Have a look at Steven Forrest's "The Changing Sky" for info and interps on progressions. Zaquaspryt69SagSun, sounds like you're experiencing the same chaos. It's so much better to go crazy with others than alone. Dr. Z,Seems strange the Outers aren't considered since this has been such a long-term affect on my life. You lost me on that part about "the Lights". I remember seeing that my pSun had moved into Cappy. Gadz, I hope that doesn't mean I'm going to get tied down, aka marriage. I guess I see Cap/Saturn as being very restrictive to my independence. Just the thought of having to answer to someone else, get approval if I want to just take off driving somewhere or do something the other won't approve of, or worse, having to go and do things I don't want to! And I thought my life was in chaos now!! quote:Your pMoon is bang-on your nMC. Your pSun has moved into Cappy so my guess is that you'll clear up the chaos soon That explains my chaos at work, but I hope you're right and that it'll all clear up real soon. Azalaksh quote:You lost me on that part about "the Lights".I thought about making some goofy crack about Seeing the Light, but I'll save it for another time The "Lights" are just another name for the Sun and Moon. For convenience, many astrologers call them Planets, even though they are not. Dr Z**edit** PS: I'm having second thoughts about the pSun in Cappy thang -- you say it's been about 5 years that Chaos Has Ruled, and that's about how long your pSun has been in Cap -- hmmmm..... I see that you'll have tUranus conj your Moon/NN coming up in a year or so, and that could contribute some feelings of chaos -- but emotional chaos, not physical chaos.Well, sometimes it's not the planets at all just a change in our personal habits due to environmental changes.....aquaspryt69Z, Duh, duh, duh!! I should have known that's what you were referring to. Thank you. At least I have some idea of where to begin. Although now I'm dealing with someone in New York who got hold of my bank card info. They spent all but $27 before "Visa Security" noticed that I couldn't be in NY spending money, and an hour later be in AZ spending money. Hello!
Nowadays, I have everything scattered to the four winds, bills get paid late or barely in the nick of time to avoid late fees. When I go looking for stuff, especially important papers, I can't find a damn thing. What the heck is going on?? It bothers me to see the mess I've created, yet I haven't the oomph to do anything about straightening it all out. I can't seem to shake the procrastinator that appeared out of nowhere in me.
How does one figure this out? Should I look at my progressed chart, or is it an aspect whose affects I've been feeling for approximately 5 yrs now?? If that's the case, then obviously it has to do with one of the slow moving planets for it to last this long. Right?
Has anyone else experienced this?
Meanwhile, do your best o get organized!
Welcome to the World of Disorder!! Parts of my life are very organized, yet other parts are total chaos.....
As far as progressed planets, the Outers are not even considered, as they barely move in the progressed chart. It's kinda the opposite of transits: the transiting Outers can wreak havoc in your life (*if* your life needs changing) and stick around for a long time), while the Personal Planets move so quickly that their effects can be minimal and short-lived. In secondary progressions, the Lights and the Personal Planets are the ones to consider -- that's why the progressed chart only lists positions for them in the Natal/Transits/Progressions chart selection at astro.com. Your pMoon is bang-on your nMC. Your pSun has moved into Cappy so my guess is that you'll clear up the chaos soon
Have a look at Steven Forrest's "The Changing Sky" for info and interps on progressions.
Z
Dr. Z,
Seems strange the Outers aren't considered since this has been such a long-term affect on my life. You lost me on that part about "the Lights".
I remember seeing that my pSun had moved into Cappy. Gadz, I hope that doesn't mean I'm going to get tied down, aka marriage. I guess I see Cap/Saturn as being very restrictive to my independence. Just the thought of having to answer to someone else, get approval if I want to just take off driving somewhere or do something the other won't approve of, or worse, having to go and do things I don't want to! And I thought my life was in chaos now!!
quote:Your pMoon is bang-on your nMC. Your pSun has moved into Cappy so my guess is that you'll clear up the chaos soon
That explains my chaos at work, but I hope you're right and that it'll all clear up real soon.
quote:You lost me on that part about "the Lights".
The "Lights" are just another name for the Sun and Moon. For convenience, many astrologers call them Planets, even though they are not.
Dr Z
**edit** PS: I'm having second thoughts about the pSun in Cappy thang -- you say it's been about 5 years that Chaos Has Ruled, and that's about how long your pSun has been in Cap -- hmmmm..... I see that you'll have tUranus conj your Moon/NN coming up in a year or so, and that could contribute some feelings of chaos -- but emotional chaos, not physical chaos.Well, sometimes it's not the planets at all just a change in our personal habits due to environmental changes.....
Duh, duh, duh!! I should have known that's what you were referring to.
Thank you. At least I have some idea of where to begin. Although now I'm dealing with someone in New York who got hold of my bank card info. They spent all but $27 before "Visa Security" noticed that I couldn't be in NY spending money, and an hour later be in AZ spending money. Hello!
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