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T O P I C R E V I E Wleapinglemur14I met this guy and we have gotten pretty close. Closer than I let a majority of people get. Usually I feel like I am the first to feel a strong connection to someone but in this case he was the one who mentioned it (it could've been that i was also trying to keep him at a distance). The past 2 days he's broken down some more of my barriers and I'm beginning to think there is a deeper connection than I had originally thought. Maybe some past-life connection.I added some astroids in the charts, if the charts aren't clear just let me know what exactly needs to be done to clear them up. Also FYI i'm not looking for a romantic relationship with this person just to understand it better.this is the synastry this is the composite leapinglemur14c'mon anyone?? there seems to be some strong karmic connections that i don't really know the effect of...MyVirgoMaskYeah, I'm looking at the synastry first...his Pluto is almost right on your 7th house (does his chart have any personal planets contacting Pluto?), and you dump a whole bunch of stuff into his 8th house, so he'd definitely notice that LOL. And so would you, with the Pluto on the 7th, especially if he's got his own Pluto aspecting a personal planet in his natal.Also, his Mars falls into your 1st house...there's a physical attraction going on here, and if you're not feeling it for him, then he might seem like he's coming on strong to you maybe, esp. if you're not interested.His Sun is falling into your 12th and I am wondering how that feels for you. 12th house synastry is always weird to figure out because it seems to get a lot of mixed reviews. I'd definitely say there's a lot of mutual fascination going on here. Yikes! I just noticed the age difference. Ok, none of my business LOL (and yeah, I'm one to talk, right? heheh). I know you're saying it's not romantic, and I believe you, but I can't really see how it's just a 'friendly' casual thing either. I'd definitely tread lightly...I'm not thinking asteroids because the connection looks complex enough just at first glance here. He probably finds you elusive in some ways...the 12th house Mercury contact can add to that, I think. And you're putting Neptune right into his 1st, so I'd say you definitely activate his imagination. Saturn and Uranus are also put into his 1st by you...and they're pretty close to the 1st house cusp...It's possible he has no idea what the heck you're all about LOL. But he's definitely intrigued nonetheless. I'd say be careful and just pace it, because I am sensing some real intensity and it can really go either way. leapinglemur14hes married and his oldest son is 2 years younger than me...like all men we share the occasional sexual innuendo but there's no expectations of any sort of relationship on either part. I is no home wrecker.i was really interested in his pluto being so close to my vertex...i've read about karmic past life connections in regards to this.nataly he has venus oppose pluto, neptune sextile pluto, and mars semi something it.MyVirgoMaskYeah, I wouldn't be surprised of past life stuff.I take back what I said about asteroids. Maybe it would be good for you to look at them...Dark Dreamer and IQ know their stuff about this, and would probably tell you specifically what to look for.leapinglemur14but where areee theeeeey????? darkdreamerLeaping,I would recommend to look at the asteroids:KarmaJunoAmorUnionValentineErosPsycheCupidoPlutoPersephoneProserpinaAnd for themgroups:Indian / Tantrik:SivaKaaliParvatiEgyptian:IsisOsirisSumerian:InannenAdonisArthurian:ArthurLancelotGuinevereGinevraTristanIsoldaAnd also have a look at the Draco`s.darkdreamerOne more thing, if applying asteroids, keep the orbs tight (3° for conjunctions and oppositions, 2° for other aspects).Those asteroids I mentioned relate to (romantic) relationships of course.If you have the feeling there might have been something else, you could also look at other themegroups.To check if you have a past life connection and where it has taken place, I like to look at the asteroids of places in addition to the mentioned.Example:Roman empire:Roma (of course)Sumerian:BabelBabylonSumeriaChaldaeaUrEgyptian:GizaAlexandr(i)aInterestingly I haven`t looked up Indian places.Arthurian:IrelandCamelot etc.Look for some of these asteroids aspecting strongly (preferably conjunct / opposite):SunMoonASC(Venus,Mars)Nodal axisKarmaDNASaturn(Pluto)I think for past life stuff, Moon, Nodal axis (esp. SN), Karma and Saturn might be especially interesting.Lucia23With your Jupiter falling into his fifth house (and Venus in his 7th), your energy probably gives him a buoyant, youthful, happy feeling.It seems like there's a natural attraction there, not some deep karmic soulmate past life thing...just more everyday Plutonic intrigue between two interesting, attractive people. I think he's coming on to you, and using the feeling of compatibility between you to do it. You are understandably responding to his vibe, interest, and attention (and the 12th house stuff makes you probably very intriguing to him.) It sounds like a good time to create clarity and distance in this situation, and find the kind of emotional closeness you could have here with somebody who is not entangled in another relationship. If he isn't responsible enough to keep your mutual flirtation/fondness/fascination from hitting the next level, it'll have to be you that does it.Not that I think attracted men and women can never be friends. This just looks/sounds like one of those cases where boundaries might end up being important. leapinglemur14DD- how do i change the orbs to make it tighter? what percentage do I use?Lucia- thanks for the memo.darkdreamerI`d try 30%, maybe even 20%.If you look at the additional tables, you will see the orb next to the aspect, BUT if astro.com writes 2°, they are actually meaning anything from 2°01- 2°59.Also you have to click the box to show all aspect lines, or they will leave out the asteroids.Hmm, I gave you a very broad list. Maybe you should check first the usual steps to see if someone has soulmate-potential; this would also show the karma you have.So maybe just check:1. ASC aspecting Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars, Saturn, NN, ASC, Karma and Valentine within 3° (preferably a trine or conjunction will appear).2. aspects bewteen Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars, Saturn, NN, ASC, Karma and Valentine (if you find several aspects with SAturn, NN or Karma, you can be sure ther eis a lot of Karma between you)3. aspects between:1) Venus-Mars2) Eros and Cupido - Psyche3) Zeus, Jupiter - Hera, Juno4) Pluto - PRoserpina, Persephone (this seems to be a very significant clue)5) Osiris - Isis6) ADonis - Inannen7) Siva - Parvati or KaaliAFter checking the synastry, also check these connections in composite and Davison. I think you will notice a pattern or theme there.Of course this list relates to relationships in a romantic context.Purely sexual relationships will have a dominance of Venus, Mars, (Uranus), Pluto, Eros, Lust and so on.Romance will have Venus, Neptune, Juno, Valentine and so on.Intimacy and caring will have Moon, (Jupiter), Ceres, Psyche, Amor and so on.Intellectual or friendship would have Sun, Mercury, Jupiter, (Uranus), Pallas and so on.leapinglemur14what about a parent child relationship? (past, present, future)My saturn looks likes it's right on his ASC.darkdreamerFor parent-child relationships, I`d look for:- Moon- Ceres- IC - (Sun)especially in aspect to- nodal axis- Karma- Saturn(also in the Draco`s).Last year I had a crush on someone, and we had a very loaded opposition from Cancer to Capricorn (mixed Draco and tropical). And this loaded opposition fell onto both our Draco MC-IC axis, which were reversed.So, look out for the tropical and Draco IC, too. leapinglemur14this is the first list you gave me...tell me if i should put the other ones up..
I added some astroids in the charts, if the charts aren't clear just let me know what exactly needs to be done to clear them up. Also FYI i'm not looking for a romantic relationship with this person just to understand it better.
this is the synastry this is the composite
His Sun is falling into your 12th and I am wondering how that feels for you. 12th house synastry is always weird to figure out because it seems to get a lot of mixed reviews.
I'd definitely say there's a lot of mutual fascination going on here.
Yikes! I just noticed the age difference. Ok, none of my business LOL (and yeah, I'm one to talk, right? heheh). I know you're saying it's not romantic, and I believe you, but I can't really see how it's just a 'friendly' casual thing either. I'd definitely tread lightly...I'm not thinking asteroids because the connection looks complex enough just at first glance here. He probably finds you elusive in some ways...the 12th house Mercury contact can add to that, I think.
And you're putting Neptune right into his 1st, so I'd say you definitely activate his imagination. Saturn and Uranus are also put into his 1st by you...and they're pretty close to the 1st house cusp...It's possible he has no idea what the heck you're all about LOL. But he's definitely intrigued nonetheless. I'd say be careful and just pace it, because I am sensing some real intensity and it can really go either way.
i was really interested in his pluto being so close to my vertex...i've read about karmic past life connections in regards to this.
nataly he has venus oppose pluto, neptune sextile pluto, and mars semi something it.
I would recommend to look at the asteroids:
KarmaJunoAmorUnionValentineErosPsycheCupidoPlutoPersephoneProserpina
And for themgroups:
Indian / Tantrik:SivaKaaliParvati
Egyptian:IsisOsiris
Sumerian:InannenAdonis
Arthurian:ArthurLancelotGuinevereGinevraTristanIsolda
And also have a look at the Draco`s.
Those asteroids I mentioned relate to (romantic) relationships of course.If you have the feeling there might have been something else, you could also look at other themegroups.
To check if you have a past life connection and where it has taken place, I like to look at the asteroids of places in addition to the mentioned.
Example:
Roman empire:Roma (of course)
Sumerian:BabelBabylonSumeriaChaldaeaUr
Egyptian:GizaAlexandr(i)a
Interestingly I haven`t looked up Indian places.
Arthurian:IrelandCamelot etc.
Look for some of these asteroids aspecting strongly (preferably conjunct / opposite):
SunMoonASC(Venus,Mars)Nodal axisKarmaDNASaturn(Pluto)
I think for past life stuff, Moon, Nodal axis (esp. SN), Karma and Saturn might be especially interesting.
It seems like there's a natural attraction there, not some deep karmic soulmate past life thing...just more everyday Plutonic intrigue between two interesting, attractive people. I think he's coming on to you, and using the feeling of compatibility between you to do it. You are understandably responding to his vibe, interest, and attention (and the 12th house stuff makes you probably very intriguing to him.)
It sounds like a good time to create clarity and distance in this situation, and find the kind of emotional closeness you could have here with somebody who is not entangled in another relationship. If he isn't responsible enough to keep your mutual flirtation/fondness/fascination from hitting the next level, it'll have to be you that does it.
Not that I think attracted men and women can never be friends. This just looks/sounds like one of those cases where boundaries might end up being important.
Lucia- thanks for the memo.
If you look at the additional tables, you will see the orb next to the aspect, BUT if astro.com writes 2°, they are actually meaning anything from 2°01- 2°59.
Also you have to click the box to show all aspect lines, or they will leave out the asteroids.
Hmm, I gave you a very broad list. Maybe you should check first the usual steps to see if someone has soulmate-potential; this would also show the karma you have.
So maybe just check:
1. ASC aspecting Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars, Saturn, NN, ASC, Karma and Valentine within 3° (preferably a trine or conjunction will appear).
2. aspects bewteen Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars, Saturn, NN, ASC, Karma and Valentine (if you find several aspects with SAturn, NN or Karma, you can be sure ther eis a lot of Karma between you)
3. aspects between:1) Venus-Mars2) Eros and Cupido - Psyche3) Zeus, Jupiter - Hera, Juno4) Pluto - PRoserpina, Persephone (this seems to be a very significant clue)5) Osiris - Isis6) ADonis - Inannen7) Siva - Parvati or Kaali
AFter checking the synastry, also check these connections in composite and Davison. I think you will notice a pattern or theme there.
Of course this list relates to relationships in a romantic context.
Purely sexual relationships will have a dominance of Venus, Mars, (Uranus), Pluto, Eros, Lust and so on.
Romance will have Venus, Neptune, Juno, Valentine and so on.
Intimacy and caring will have Moon, (Jupiter), Ceres, Psyche, Amor and so on.
Intellectual or friendship would have Sun, Mercury, Jupiter, (Uranus), Pallas and so on.
My saturn looks likes it's right on his ASC.
- Moon- Ceres- IC - (Sun)
especially in aspect to
- nodal axis- Karma- Saturn
(also in the Draco`s).
Last year I had a crush on someone, and we had a very loaded opposition from Cancer to Capricorn (mixed Draco and tropical). And this loaded opposition fell onto both our Draco MC-IC axis, which were reversed.
So, look out for the tropical and Draco IC, too.
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