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T O P I C R E V I E Wmel0nfishhi...i feel i have horrible issues with relationships and "accepting" love. i've just ruined a good thing with one guy, and it's kind of tearing me apart and i feel like i'll have these issues/be alone forever. are there any bad transits that would signify this and will they pass! or is it my natal venus being retrograde that causes me these problems, or my venus being in capricorn...my chart: http://i51.tinypic.com/51qyps.gif Ami Anne((Melonfish)))I will be back later to look ------------------Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbsmintgirl123Its definitely ur venus loosely conjunct saturn. I have mine loosely squarin and i hv similar issues. The venus retrograde also contributes.vertiverMelon, I'm sorry, whenever Valentine's Day nears, I always feel really lonely as well. Your DESC. is ruled by the Moon, your Moon in Sagittarius is at cross-purposes with that stoic Cap. ASC. and Saturn Conjunction. You want a stable relationship, yet your Sag. Moon wants freedom. Also your Moon doesn't make any major aspects, so it is really a singleton in your chart. Also Saturn is conjunct Neptune which means you can be indecisive about matters of responsibility and relationships. Not only that Mercury rules your 5th H, and its opposite Jupiter, which again emphasizes the side of you that wants freedom rather than commitment and just enjoying yourself. And then you've got 12th H stellium, which adds to that Neptunian indecisiveness... Ami AnneIs it an unaspected moon,Vertiver?------------------Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city ProverbsLonakeWait until Venus turns direct by progression.Or until progressed Venus conjuncts Sun, ouch, maybe that one passed already....Anyway there's more to look at than just the natal.The Saturn Return should help you out as well, where you can get to the bottom of this mess and be done with it.pireI think venus semi-square moon is interesting, one beig retro and the other in the 12th makes me think that you will not be satisfied by a standard relationship that some people look for to be "normal"chiron is directly opposing neptune which to me evoque a need or desire to delve into spirituality, or spiritual love, a desire to give some depth and meaning to love with a great L but this need for a spiritual understanding is probably possible, having saturn on the asc and sextile pluto.I think for you love has to mean something, but the question is what?your chart appeals to me, we have a few interesting connection (chiron IC, chiron ASC, juno dsc, sun north node, pluto sun, moon mars, mars venus to name a few) may be this is the reason why I decided to comment and give my 2 cents, but I am in no way an professionnal astrologer, and everything I am saying is purely a personal test of my own knwoledge, so I sugest you to not give my comments much consideration. I guess I wouldn't worry too much and read too much into this, you are young and you have the time before you. some part of your chart might get impatient (moon and mars in fire) and your cap stellium might add some pressure on you to become "whatever", but patience. cause you will no matter what become something. that's the only guarantee you have.AnglerfishI have an unaspected moon in sag and lots of cappy too. I think it's a cappy thing.------------------He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you."- Friedrich Nietzsche. ASC 29 Scorpio...Late Degree Scorpio Rising FTW!!!mel0nfish quote:Originally posted by pire:I think venus semi-square moon is interesting, one beig retro and the other in the 12th makes me think that you will not be satisfied by a standard relationship that some people look for to be "normal"chiron is directly opposing neptune which to me evoque a need or desire to delve into spirituality, or spiritual love, a desire to give some depth and meaning to love with a great L but this need for a spiritual understanding is probably possible, having saturn on the asc and sextile pluto.I think for you love has to mean something, but the question is what?your chart appeals to me, we have a few interesting connection (chiron IC, chiron ASC, juno dsc, sun north node, pluto sun, moon mars, mars venus to name a few) may be this is the reason why I decided to comment and give my 2 cents, but I am in no way an professionnal astrologer, and everything I am saying is purely a personal test of my own knwoledge, so I sugest you to not give my comments much consideration. I guess I wouldn't worry too much and read too much into this, you are young and you have the time before you. some part of your chart might get impatient (moon and mars in fire) and your cap stellium might add some pressure on you to become "whatever", but patience. cause you will no matter what become something. that's the only guarantee you have.that is true! i feel like almost everything (even casual friendships) has to mean something...or else it's difficult for me to keep a relationship with someone. even with cashiers or those type of people i see everyday, i like feeling close to them!! but there is also something about this that makes me uncomfortablei do feel very impatient!! like time's a-wasting. and i always hear "tick-tock, tick-tock!"GemGemGemAscendent in Capricorn conjunct your Saturn is like a double dose of Saturn hitting you ALL the time. You probably don't make anything easy for yourself in life, and you probably take everything very seriously. Saturn is also opposed to your Descedent which can sometimes mean you don't make relationships easy for yourself either. Maybe in some ways you feel like relationships should be work, and unless you are giving everything in a relationship, that you don't deserve the relationship. Saturn makes it hard to be receptive because it blocks the energy. I think the only way to become receptive to another's love, is to love yourself more. Do things that make you happy, and be selfish from time to time.
my chart: http://i51.tinypic.com/51qyps.gif
------------------Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs
Your DESC. is ruled by the Moon, your Moon in Sagittarius is at cross-purposes with that stoic Cap. ASC. and Saturn Conjunction. You want a stable relationship, yet your Sag. Moon wants freedom. Also your Moon doesn't make any major aspects, so it is really a singleton in your chart.
Also Saturn is conjunct Neptune which means you can be indecisive about matters of responsibility and relationships.
Not only that Mercury rules your 5th H, and its opposite Jupiter, which again emphasizes the side of you that wants freedom rather than commitment and just enjoying yourself. And then you've got 12th H stellium, which adds to that Neptunian indecisiveness...
The Saturn Return should help you out as well, where you can get to the bottom of this mess and be done with it.
chiron is directly opposing neptune which to me evoque a need or desire to delve into spirituality, or spiritual love, a desire to give some depth and meaning to love with a great L
but this need for a spiritual understanding is probably possible, having saturn on the asc and sextile pluto.
I think for you love has to mean something, but the question is what?
your chart appeals to me, we have a few interesting connection (chiron IC, chiron ASC, juno dsc, sun north node, pluto sun, moon mars, mars venus to name a few) may be this is the reason why I decided to comment and give my 2 cents, but I am in no way an professionnal astrologer, and everything I am saying is purely a personal test of my own knwoledge, so I sugest you to not give my comments much consideration.
I guess I wouldn't worry too much and read too much into this, you are young and you have the time before you. some part of your chart might get impatient (moon and mars in fire) and your cap stellium might add some pressure on you to become "whatever", but patience. cause you will no matter what become something. that's the only guarantee you have.
------------------He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you."- Friedrich Nietzsche. ASC 29 Scorpio...Late Degree Scorpio Rising FTW!!!
quote:Originally posted by pire:I think venus semi-square moon is interesting, one beig retro and the other in the 12th makes me think that you will not be satisfied by a standard relationship that some people look for to be "normal"chiron is directly opposing neptune which to me evoque a need or desire to delve into spirituality, or spiritual love, a desire to give some depth and meaning to love with a great L but this need for a spiritual understanding is probably possible, having saturn on the asc and sextile pluto.I think for you love has to mean something, but the question is what?your chart appeals to me, we have a few interesting connection (chiron IC, chiron ASC, juno dsc, sun north node, pluto sun, moon mars, mars venus to name a few) may be this is the reason why I decided to comment and give my 2 cents, but I am in no way an professionnal astrologer, and everything I am saying is purely a personal test of my own knwoledge, so I sugest you to not give my comments much consideration. I guess I wouldn't worry too much and read too much into this, you are young and you have the time before you. some part of your chart might get impatient (moon and mars in fire) and your cap stellium might add some pressure on you to become "whatever", but patience. cause you will no matter what become something. that's the only guarantee you have.
that is true! i feel like almost everything (even casual friendships) has to mean something...or else it's difficult for me to keep a relationship with someone. even with cashiers or those type of people i see everyday, i like feeling close to them!! but there is also something about this that makes me uncomfortable
i do feel very impatient!! like time's a-wasting. and i always hear "tick-tock, tick-tock!"
Saturn is also opposed to your Descedent which can sometimes mean you don't make relationships easy for yourself either. Maybe in some ways you feel like relationships should be work, and unless you are giving everything in a relationship, that you don't deserve the relationship. Saturn makes it hard to be receptive because it blocks the energy.
I think the only way to become receptive to another's love, is to love yourself more. Do things that make you happy, and be selfish from time to time.
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