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T O P I C R E V I E Wscrappydog T pluto is applying 2 deg away from my moon in my 8th h no less. I am having a horrible time, my sister who I mistakenly let move in with me is destroying our whole family. She steals and lies constantly and is parasitical. She has stolen both my parents identity 2 seperate times and taken out credit cards to the tune of 17,000. They refuse to call teh police, they just paid for it. Now last week she started making up horrible lies about me that arent true and for no reason. (this is normal behavior for her btw, she slanders our own parents and say they abused her when all they have ever done is give her everything). I truely believe that she is a complete sociopath, she loves no one. Now she refuses to leave my apt and my parents wont let me throw her on the street even though she refuses to work. So I am packing all my things right now, Tonight! I told my sister she is dead to me and I meant it. She no longer exhists to me. I have dealt with this same behavior frm her for 31 years, but this is the turning point. I am cutting her out forever. So I have to go look for a new apt tomorrow and I cant stop crying and I never cry. My family is falling apart, my sister is dead and I have lost my home in this huge crisis. Also I have been feeling very emotionally raw lately becuase of this transit. I am natally plutonian and I am used to people having extreme reactions to me and sometimes lashing out for no reason. I think they are projecting onto me. I have lived with that all my life. But lately man people are cruelly attacking me and seemingly for no reason. Its like im being singled out. Im not sure why this is happening, but it is. It seems like the whole world just turned against me and I did nothng wronge, but make a mistake and let my sister move in. Im sorry for the rant, Im not a person who usually makes these types of whiney posts. I have no cancer placements I swear, lol. There is some scary info on the net about pluto transits to moon if you google it. Im really worried. Could this get worse? My health has not been good either. A lot of people find out their sick with this transit. Any other cappy moons going through this?mercuranianAww man, I'm sorry you're having such a rough time. I will be going through the same transit through the same house no less, in a couple short years. I'm scared.scrappydoglol im sorry dude, I hope yours is better than this, this is really bad.mintgirl123Aw hope things will get better =( Be strong ok? It'll pass soon!I've been going through a rough few years. Saturn passed my sun and mars in virgo, but then went into my desc and it's been conjuncting my stellium (moon, venus and mercury for ages now)I also have pluto transiting saturn. I'm really hoping saturn moves away from my seventh house eventually. Life needs to start looking up!All we can do is have faith!MyVirgoMaskSounds terrible, Scrappy, I'm sorry I don't know if you're familiar with Chirotic Press, but Jeremy Neal wrote an absolutely stunning 3-part essay on Plutonian energy in forms of transit and in terms of natal too. Really insightful IMO - if you get a chance and would like to check it out : http://chirotic.wordpress.com/2011/11/01/the-amateur-pluto-hunter/ It may be also that because you are the 'stronger' one in your family that your sister is allowed to get away with a lot and you are expected to be responsible and shoulder the burden. And it's not fair, but I think a lot of parents do this without realizing. I am sure the transit is magnifying it too. scrappydogWow this article really rings true for how my sister is acting, its strange that im natally the plutonian though and now that im going through this transit the women in my life are acting plutonian in a very negative way.Mintgirl thank you I feel so alone right now its almost scary, I havent had this kind of crisis in a looong time. I hope everyone else that is going through this si doing a ton better than me. I know there another girl on here with her moon 9 deg cappy too. Im gonna say a prayer for her tonight lol.MyVirgoMaskI was reading that Plutonian behaviour bit too and thought it would resonate for you regarding your sister. But you know, if it's hitting your moon, that would make sense that it's affecting female relationships, right? Moon ruling women in the archetypal feminine way. amelia28Its not fair that you have to move out of your own apartment. Your sister and parents should be the ones to leave. Your parents are just as much to blame as your sister as they completely enable her.Making up horrible lies about her own parents and her own brother does scream sociopath and I dont blame you for been upset and cutting her off specially if this is something you have had to put up with your whole life.I am really sorry that you are going through such a crisis with your family and wish you the best.scrappydog^ Thank you, yes she has had these problems her whole life, stealing and lying and trying to con others. My own parents say she is a sociopath, she loves no one and she has done nothing but hurt and destroy everyone around her since adolesense. But because she is their child they are going to put up with it. I can understand loving your child no matter what, BUT that doesnt mean not punishing them. She has never had any repercussions for her actions, never. And they will try to push her off on me sometimes and Im the younger one! I know this isnt their fault, but they have enabled her her whole life. Now, like lots of sociopaths, she truely believs she can get away with anything she has even outright bragged to me about this before. She believes that she is so clever and everyone else is stupid idiots. No matter what she has ever done to me, she even robbed me one time, I alays take her back and forgive her. I think thats where pluto is coming in, pluto gets rid of things/people that are no longer useful, he is great for "cleaning house". Well Im cleaning house because I have just killed her off in my life. I dont have a sister. And thats ok because I will survive and thrive while she continues with her pathetic, parasitical lifestyle. As mentioned, I really see how the moon is taking place in this too with my family, but most specifically my female family. Btw, im a chick, so we were sisters, not brother and sister, lol. This is such a shame.amelia28You will get through this and things will look up again. I feel when you close the door on people your intuition tells you to close the door on a new stage in your life follows were you feel more aligned with who you are and why you are here and feel more empowered. So this is a storm but after the storm passes you will start fresh and feel a sense of peace inside of you and start a journey were you surround yourself with people that help you grow and you them. After this you will be a stronger you who doesn't waste time on people who bring you down and suck your energy. You will now use this energy on yourself and others who are worth it. It will be ok, some transits really are a blessing in disguise.scrappydogThank you guys tons for your input, I feel better already. I agree that im moving forward and this will be a blessing in the end, I have to evolve and thats sometimes painful. I know that pluto transits occur when one is about to make a big leap forward and leave the past behind. Im supposed to start a class in january to get a better job so im thinking this is where my future is going and I should focus my energy on success and just leave these destructive people behind. MyVirgoMaskHey Scrappy, are you the older sister? My sister is the same btw. Not as blatant in her BS but same as in , never had a job, always wants a handout, cheated on her husband for the millisecond she was married and my mom covered her ass every step of the way, always got what she wanted, lied, I could go on....But me? It's totally different. I think it's favortism but also just I am older therefor and years later my mother confessed she thought I was smarter and stronger and didnt need protection so it was somehow 'OK' to treat me like crap.And it's so ******* unfair. Because it's blatant BS. But I think it's like mummy put blinders on. Maybe this is it - they put on the blinders - blame the coherent one because the screwed up one feels so much like a fault of upbringing and the responsibility is too much to burden. But they will regret it and I know they will totally apologize for this at some point for this madness.At any rate, it SUCKS and I am sorry you are going through it. My feeling is they will regret it, definitelly. I think you are doing the right thing by cutting them off for the time being, let them simmer in their own juices and see their screw ups, you take yourself out of the equation and they will see there is still a problem and so it's not you at all. Anyway, I am sorry you have to go through this Feeling like those who are supposed to be on your side like family are not is like being totally betrayed on a deeply genetic level, it creates the deepest feelings of mistrust in others and even the self and this is the tragedy of it. scrappydogThank you, well said and no I am the younger by 4 years. But like you guys mentioned, I think its because im the stronger one. Dont get me wrong, ive had my problems in life too, but I always fight and im not lazy. I was always the one that took care of business while she cried and whined on her butt for free money, cars, rent, ECT. Then after she gets all this free support she has the audacity to call my parents child abusers. Talk about twisted. I can tell from her chart that she is mentally ill, but im not at all sure you can tell someone is a sociopath from their chart. She is just a sick, destructive human being who thinks the whole world owes her something, I guess that defies astrology sometimes.RunAroundScreamingI am so sorry about what you're going through! Don't worry! Look at that light at the end of the tunnel! There is always a bright side...keep your eyes focused on that bright side because it's what will motivate you to keep going and stay strong, yeah?You can do it. I'm confident you will get through this. <3popcornScappydog. You remind me from the time when I took my children and moved. My exhusbands family was completely crazy so I leave my house. In the beginning my children and I lived in a small flat without any money. We got the luck to get a place to live on. 40 miles away from our homeplace.Strange but this event change our life. With this people out of our life we could begin start build our own life. Both my children thanks me today and say they never will move back. I hate pluto on time when it force me to change. I also hate saturn when it force me to be patience. But......I love this planets when its over. Because for me they want help.snooksScrappydog,You poor sausage... I empathise with you but you convey yourself as quite an insightful person and are probably stronger than you realise. Purging people out of your life that are toxic, particularly when they are family is a horrendous experience also to add the fact that your parents will still have the connection with her, but youve got to do what is right for you and stand firm. Like you have mentioned she has never suffered any consequences this is potentially where the problem may lie, your parents have enabled her all along. But you have to handle this situation as a seperate entity to your parents. Familys really can be hard work, my god mine drive me up the wall. Hope this period passes quickly for you, but always remember you will gain something from this hard time when you reflect on it down the road.S xscrappydogYes, you guys are really spot on and I feel better about what I have to do now. The past week has been horrendous, but I woke up with a new outlook. Pluto is fate and he is changing my fate ina painful way, but I will grow so much and the effects will probably be permanent. I have to be strong and fight my way out of this on my own. Pluto always forces me to grow so much, when this is over I know my life and I will be better for it :-DpopcornIm completely sure you will win and grow :-)Virgo/Leo CuspAwww I feel bad just reading your postsI had the Transit Moon square Pluto when I was real young, and it was no pinic.just a piece of advice, when you move out of your apt...just make sure your name is still not on that apt. Because if she misses any payments or gets evicted...that apt will have you as the responsible person. That will go on your credit record, she will have messed up your financesSo even though, she will be far away, she could still mess up your finances for the futureMe, personally, I would've called the police on her and made her move out!
I've been going through a rough few years.
Saturn passed my sun and mars in virgo, but then went into my desc and it's been conjuncting my stellium (moon, venus and mercury for ages now)
I also have pluto transiting saturn. I'm really hoping saturn moves away from my seventh house eventually. Life needs to start looking up!All we can do is have faith!
I don't know if you're familiar with Chirotic Press, but Jeremy Neal wrote an absolutely stunning 3-part essay on Plutonian energy in forms of transit and in terms of natal too. Really insightful IMO - if you get a chance and would like to check it out : http://chirotic.wordpress.com/2011/11/01/the-amateur-pluto-hunter/
It may be also that because you are the 'stronger' one in your family that your sister is allowed to get away with a lot and you are expected to be responsible and shoulder the burden. And it's not fair, but I think a lot of parents do this without realizing. I am sure the transit is magnifying it too.
But you know, if it's hitting your moon, that would make sense that it's affecting female relationships, right? Moon ruling women in the archetypal feminine way.
Making up horrible lies about her own parents and her own brother does scream sociopath and I dont blame you for been upset and cutting her off specially if this is something you have had to put up with your whole life.
I am really sorry that you are going through such a crisis with your family and wish you the best.
It will be ok, some transits really are a blessing in disguise.
But me? It's totally different. I think it's favortism but also just I am older therefor and years later my mother confessed she thought I was smarter and stronger and didnt need protection so it was somehow 'OK' to treat me like crap.
And it's so ******* unfair. Because it's blatant BS. But I think it's like mummy put blinders on. Maybe this is it - they put on the blinders - blame the coherent one because the screwed up one feels so much like a fault of upbringing and the responsibility is too much to burden. But they will regret it and I know they will totally apologize for this at some point for this madness.
At any rate, it SUCKS and I am sorry you are going through it. My feeling is they will regret it, definitelly. I think you are doing the right thing by cutting them off for the time being, let them simmer in their own juices and see their screw ups, you take yourself out of the equation and they will see there is still a problem and so it's not you at all.
Anyway, I am sorry you have to go through this Feeling like those who are supposed to be on your side like family are not is like being totally betrayed on a deeply genetic level, it creates the deepest feelings of mistrust in others and even the self and this is the tragedy of it.
You can do it. I'm confident you will get through this. <3
Strange but this event change our life. With this people out of our life we could begin start build our own life. Both my children thanks me today and say they never will move back.
I hate pluto on time when it force me to change. I also hate saturn when it force me to be patience. But......I love this planets when its over. Because for me they want help.
I had the Transit Moon square Pluto when I was real young, and it was no pinic.
just a piece of advice, when you move out of your apt...just make sure your name is still not on that apt. Because if she misses any payments or gets evicted...that apt will have you as the responsible person. That will go on your credit record, she will have messed up your finances
So even though, she will be far away, she could still mess up your finances for the future
Me, personally, I would've called the police on her and made her move out!
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