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T O P I C R E V I E WSaggiMCThis is not a full listing and Im surely not listing ALL aspects, so please dont keep asking if yours is missing --- thanks. If I can add to them I will, so please be patientEasy flowing aspectsSun trine mars leadership abilitiesSun trine moon harmonious interaction between inner and outer selfSun trine Uranus personal magnetism and great creativitySun trine Jupiter philosophical and generousSun trine Saturn honest, practical and reliableSun trine Neptune great intuitive ability, often finds expression in art and musicSun trine Pluto high powers of concentrationsMoon trine mars business enterprise and robust health and energyMoon trine mercury - good memory, good conversationalistMoon trine Pluto intense emotions, believe that thoughts are living thingsMoon trine Saturn able to endure physical hardships, personal dignityMoon trine Neptune mediumistic and psychic tendencies, sensitive to atmosphereMoon trine Jupiter generosity of spirit, get away with murder aspect expansive imaginationMoon trine venus harmonious pleasant disposition, good taste in home dιcorMoon trine Uranus sparkling personality, original, spontaneous and imagination.Venus trine Jupiter will always have loving partnersMars trine Neptune often very attractive to opp sex, will seem gentle and strong at same time. functions well when intense activity is balance with periods of daydream, time outMars trine Saturn gives ability to bring energy to realistic and workable level. Turn other peoples ideas into reality. Action resulting in something sensible and concreteMercury trine mars quick wittedness, talent for energetic self-expression. Ideal for comediansSextile aspects = opportunitiesMercury sextile mars pick things up very quicklyVenus sextile Jupiter abundance of opportunities. In mans chart could be abundance of womenMoon sextile mars get on well with women, dont see women as threats. Can be blunt and tactless, do well working alone,good self startersMars sextile Pluto great need to prove themselves, often very self willed. will enter into confrontations with head held high, expect a lot from themselves and overtax their strengthMars sextile Neptune artistic appreciation, can do things quickly and with inspiration.Sun sextile Saturn thinks before taking actionOppositions are confrontations - to disperse them needs hard work, effort and courage. Very similar to squares, but with not as much tension. Turn oppositions to debates, stop and listen to those opposing you you might even learn something.Sun opp moon parents were opposed, but may well have complimented each otherMercury opp Saturn not very communicative personMars opp Pluto powerful urge for exercising control over others, either subvertly or manipulatively..Mars opp Neptune your actions may well be questioned frequentlyVenus opp Saturn uncherished. May feel that you have to give out more love than you receive backMoon opp Jupiter overboard with emotionsMoon opp Saturn lot of discipline in early lifeSaturn opp Uranus nervous system upsetsMoon opp Neptune emotional disillusionment. Antidote is listen to music is soothes the soulMercury opp Neptune failure to project yourself properly to othersHard aspects- you must learn to give and integrateSun square moon divided or divorced parentsSun square Neptune self deception, either inadvertently or deliberatelyVenus square Neptune - romantic disillusionmentSun square Pluto assertive dogmatic arroganceSun square Saturn lack of rapport with fatherSun square mars wilful desire to control othersMars square Pluto physical violenceMars square Uranus bad temperMoon square Saturn lack of confidence from childhood, moodinessMercury square mars & Uranus argumentativeMercury square Pluto verbal lacerationsJupiter square Uranus action without due thought (cut nose off to spite face)Mercury square Jupiter over talkative, never know when to keep quietMoon square Pluto emotionally obsessiveSun square Jupiter extravaganceVenus square Saturn uncherished or unloved in early childhoodVenus square Uranus divorce aspectSaturn square Pluto serious and determined ambition, wanting powerSun square Uranus want freedom to do unsual and creative things, impatience.Mars square Saturn wet blanket, always dampening peoples enthusiasm, poss depressive personalityMoon square Jupiter over the top emotionallyMoon square venus generous to wrong kind of people ( poss stress from early childhood)Moon square Uranus very good imagination, dissatisfied with hum drum, would seek new and unusual things that feed the emotional needs. Poss early break with mother, broken friendships and relationshipsMars square moon bossy mother and/or females could be around most of the life, dominant female theme, poss bitchy.Moon square Neptune - oversensitive, confusions, illusions around motherMars square Jupiter extravagant, to into overdriveJupiter square Saturn lack of confidence in expanding, see-saw temperamentJupiter square Neptune overexpansion without thinking of consequences, mysterious illnesses quite possibleJupiter square Pluto overdue the ambitions, willpower and stubbornness to othersSaturn square Neptune fear of the unknown, depressiveMercury square Saturn good for study, could lack confidence in communications, OR overcompensate by domineering talkVenus square mars highly sexed, but could be unfaithful Saturn conj mars in 12th frightened of father or male figuresMoon conj Neptune 1st house charm the birds off treesMore commonly found conjunctionsVenus conj mercury beautification of communications, articulation. Finds conflicts painful, strained atmospheres intolerable. need relationships where they can talk to people.Mercury conj Neptune confusions, read too much between the lines. Can mimic people espec if in first house. Strong imagination, intuitive, creative writing or deceptionsVenus conj Uranus sudden separations from loved ones, need independence within relationships, divorce aspectSun conj mars strong desire to control people can be vindictive and combativeMars conj venus very sexually active, but also needs cuddlesMars conj Uranus inventive, creative, orginalMars conj Saturn does ones duty in a cautious and constructive mannerMercury conj moon implies scholarly natureSaturn conj Pluto strong ambitionsSaturn conj Uranus need to learn how to accept changes, fear of unknown, Freedom v convention Saturn conj Asc lack confidence, reserved, somber, serious and secretative. Strong sense of responsibilitySaturn conj MC social vulnerability great, many cases strict parents and/or lack of support in childhood------------------In Astrology 2.0 forum, beginners learning astrologyhttp://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/212463.htmlin Astrology 2.0 forum, Whats next for learning (intermediate)http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/212464.htmlIn Astrology 2.0 whats next for learning (advanced)http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/212465.htmlI love the parable, If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.Moonfishthanks for the listThe only aspects I have up there are Sun conjunct Mars and Moon opposite Jupiter :]"Sun conj mars strong desire to control people can be vindictive and combative"No not really tautomer4314Saggi, I must say I really value and appreciate all the time and effort you are putting into simplifying all of this information and making really useful and quick refrences .------------------It's All Elemental-----My Chart if relevantCapriquarius quote:Originally posted by tautomer4314:Saggi, I must say I really value and appreciate all the time and effort you are putting into simplifying all of this information and making really useful and quick refrences .Seconded. Thanks SaggiMC! cappy1277Great list! As I sit hear listening to music with my headphones reading your list, I see moon opposite Neptune. Exactly what I feel & do. TrueTaurusI wonder if these aspects tell the truth of relationships, as in what was actually there as opposed to how one felt in the relationship. Many of the descriptions say, "you may have felt," but what was actually true of these relationships? I think this is a question of whether astrology determines your fate or whether it effects one's psychology. Often our feelings aren't a direct reflection of what's there. But what's "there" is always perceived, and perception is subjective. So all things will always be subjective. So, feelings and what's actually happening in a relationship are synonymous? Has anyone thought about this? ariesdragonWOW! Thumbs up & thank u! SaggiMC quote:I wonder if these aspects tell the truth of relationships, as in what was actually there as opposed to how one felt in the relationship. Many of the descriptions say, "you may have felt," but what was actually true of these relationships? I think this is a question of whether astrology determines your fate or whether it effects one's psychology. Often our feelings aren't a direct reflection of what's there. But what's "there" is always perceived, and perception is subjective. So all things will always be subjective. So, feelings and what's actually happening in a relationship are synonymous? Has anyone thought about this? synastry is a minefield and i have no interest in going down that route at the moment. it seems members around here are *obsessed* with relationships rather than learning the basics first. there is no point in jumping straight into synastry either as it would probably go straight over your head inanyevent..What astrology does is break down and compartmentalise, *facets* of your personality. it's like going on a journey of seld discovery. Perhaps once you learn what YOU need in relationships and being self aware of any outdated beliefs like, "am i worthy, am I good enough, will he like or respect me" and also realising you are not *Half an apple or orange* and life CAN exist without a partner. Perhaps then you won't be sooo needy, reliant on someone outside of yourself, when all you actually need is WITHIN yourself if only you were to look.....tautomer4314 quote:Originally posted by SaggiMC: synastry is a minefield and i have no interest in going down that route at the moment. it seems members around here are *obsessed* with relationships rather than learning the basics first. there is no point in jumping straight into synastry either as it would probably go straight over your head inanyevent..What astrology does is break down and compartmentalise, *facets* of your personality. it's like going on a journey of seld discovery. Perhaps once you learn what YOU need in relationships and being self aware of any outdated beliefs like, "am i worthy, am I good enough, will he like or respect me" and also realising you are not *Half an apple or orange* and life CAN exist without a partner. Perhaps then you won't be sooo needy, reliant on someone outside of yourself, when all you actually need is WITHIN yourself if only you were to look.....Comon saggi, you don't need to get your undies in a bunch so much. I do understand where your frustrations are coming from, but you won't garner much more respect if you speak to others in a condecending manner. Even if you are referring to others and not the person you are speaking to. I know you're quite aware of the dymanic and common personalities on this forum (I share your sentiments and do wish I could discuss it more but now is not the time nor the place), but responding to it in frustration, anger or any sort of negative emotion isn't going to change it. It will only insight flame wars. Take it from someone who has dealt with parallel situations to this before in years past. You're already doing what you can to lead others to where they need to be, but you can't make them. Venting is all well and good, just be mindful of where and how you do it.------------------It's All Elemental-----My Chart if relevantSaggiMC quote:Originally posted by tautomer4314: Comon saggi, you don't need to get your undies in a bunch so much. I do understand where your frustrations are coming from, but you won't garner much more respect if you speak to others in a condecending manner. Even if you are referring to others and not the person you are speaking to. I know you're quite aware of the dymanic and common personalities on this forum (I share your sentiments and do wish I could discuss it more [b]but now is not the time nor the place), but responding to it in frustration, anger or any sort of negative emotion isn't going to change it. It will only insight flame wars. Take it from someone who has dealt with parallel situations to this before in years past. You're already doing what you can to lead others to where they need to be, but you can't make them. Venting is all well and good, just be mindful of where and how you do it.[/B]this thread is intended for basic common aspects NOT leading into synatry that's another time and place.and speaking to me like a child and belittling like, "you don't need to get your undies in a bunch so much" is far far worse than my explanations. don't think sothere was no emotion in my response but simple explanation. It IS a fact that this forum is 90% relationship problems which I think is excessive to say the least. I have no hestitation in responding to those in PR forum or or 2.0 and yes I do find it frustrating, who wouldn't when over 90% are only interested in having answers dropped in their laps and can hardly be bothered to do any research themselves....Now THIS is venting but not an untruth here either..YinSaggiMC, do you think semi-sextiles and semi-squares are important? I have a semi-square between my Sun-Moon and I've read that aspect indicates the child will be used as an arbiter between the parents. I'm wondering what you think about that.SaggiMC quote:Originally posted by Yin:SaggiMC, do you think semi-sextiles and semi-squares are important? I have a semi-square between my Sun-Moon so I'm wondering...No, don't use them as they are minor aspects. I do however, feel that quintiles and bi quintiles are prob worth researching as they can show hidden talents.If you are struggling with a lack of aspects to a particular planet, what I would suggest is you look at parallels in declinations and midpoints. I did Ami ann's unaspected venus in gemini only to find jupiter was parallel which acts like a conjunciton...basic astrology forum, parallels in declination http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000675.html To enter this forum you need an extra password astrology .Basic astrology forum, Learn Midpoints http://www.linda-goodman.com/cgi-bin/ubb/forumdisplay.cgi?action=topics&forum=Basic+Astrology&number=12&DaysPrune= To enter this forum you need an extra password astrology .Linda Jones quote:What astrology does is break down and compartmentalise, *facets* of your personality. it's like going on a journey of seld discovery. Perhaps once you learn what YOU need in relationships and being self aware of any outdated beliefs like, "am i worthy, am I good enough, will he like or respect me" and also realising you are not *Half an apple or orange* and life CAN exist without a partner. Perhaps then you won't be sooo needy, reliant on someone outside of yourself, when all you actually need is WITHIN yourself if only you were to look.....This part alone unrelated to anything else ... Faith quote:Mercury opp Saturn not very communicative personI'm PLENTY communicative (Gemini Mars, 3rd house Pluto), but I have a lot of insecurity about what I say.
Easy flowing aspectsSun trine mars leadership abilitiesSun trine moon harmonious interaction between inner and outer selfSun trine Uranus personal magnetism and great creativitySun trine Jupiter philosophical and generousSun trine Saturn honest, practical and reliableSun trine Neptune great intuitive ability, often finds expression in art and musicSun trine Pluto high powers of concentrationsMoon trine mars business enterprise and robust health and energyMoon trine mercury - good memory, good conversationalistMoon trine Pluto intense emotions, believe that thoughts are living thingsMoon trine Saturn able to endure physical hardships, personal dignityMoon trine Neptune mediumistic and psychic tendencies, sensitive to atmosphereMoon trine Jupiter generosity of spirit, get away with murder aspect expansive imaginationMoon trine venus harmonious pleasant disposition, good taste in home dιcorMoon trine Uranus sparkling personality, original, spontaneous and imagination.Venus trine Jupiter will always have loving partnersMars trine Neptune often very attractive to opp sex, will seem gentle and strong at same time. functions well when intense activity is balance with periods of daydream, time outMars trine Saturn gives ability to bring energy to realistic and workable level. Turn other peoples ideas into reality. Action resulting in something sensible and concreteMercury trine mars quick wittedness, talent for energetic self-expression. Ideal for comedians
Sextile aspects = opportunitiesMercury sextile mars pick things up very quicklyVenus sextile Jupiter abundance of opportunities. In mans chart could be abundance of womenMoon sextile mars get on well with women, dont see women as threats. Can be blunt and tactless, do well working alone,good self startersMars sextile Pluto great need to prove themselves, often very self willed. will enter into confrontations with head held high, expect a lot from themselves and overtax their strengthMars sextile Neptune artistic appreciation, can do things quickly and with inspiration.Sun sextile Saturn thinks before taking action
Oppositions are confrontations - to disperse them needs hard work, effort and courage. Very similar to squares, but with not as much tension. Turn oppositions to debates, stop and listen to those opposing you you might even learn something.
Sun opp moon parents were opposed, but may well have complimented each otherMercury opp Saturn not very communicative personMars opp Pluto powerful urge for exercising control over others, either subvertly or manipulatively..Mars opp Neptune your actions may well be questioned frequentlyVenus opp Saturn uncherished. May feel that you have to give out more love than you receive backMoon opp Jupiter overboard with emotionsMoon opp Saturn lot of discipline in early lifeSaturn opp Uranus nervous system upsetsMoon opp Neptune emotional disillusionment. Antidote is listen to music is soothes the soulMercury opp Neptune failure to project yourself properly to others
Hard aspects- you must learn to give and integrateSun square moon divided or divorced parentsSun square Neptune self deception, either inadvertently or deliberatelyVenus square Neptune - romantic disillusionmentSun square Pluto assertive dogmatic arroganceSun square Saturn lack of rapport with fatherSun square mars wilful desire to control othersMars square Pluto physical violenceMars square Uranus bad temperMoon square Saturn lack of confidence from childhood, moodinessMercury square mars & Uranus argumentativeMercury square Pluto verbal lacerationsJupiter square Uranus action without due thought (cut nose off to spite face)Mercury square Jupiter over talkative, never know when to keep quietMoon square Pluto emotionally obsessiveSun square Jupiter extravaganceVenus square Saturn uncherished or unloved in early childhoodVenus square Uranus divorce aspectSaturn square Pluto serious and determined ambition, wanting powerSun square Uranus want freedom to do unsual and creative things, impatience.Mars square Saturn wet blanket, always dampening peoples enthusiasm, poss depressive personalityMoon square Jupiter over the top emotionallyMoon square venus generous to wrong kind of people ( poss stress from early childhood)Moon square Uranus very good imagination, dissatisfied with hum drum, would seek new and unusual things that feed the emotional needs. Poss early break with mother, broken friendships and relationshipsMars square moon bossy mother and/or females could be around most of the life, dominant female theme, poss bitchy.Moon square Neptune - oversensitive, confusions, illusions around motherMars square Jupiter extravagant, to into overdriveJupiter square Saturn lack of confidence in expanding, see-saw temperamentJupiter square Neptune overexpansion without thinking of consequences, mysterious illnesses quite possibleJupiter square Pluto overdue the ambitions, willpower and stubbornness to othersSaturn square Neptune fear of the unknown, depressiveMercury square Saturn good for study, could lack confidence in communications, OR overcompensate by domineering talkVenus square mars highly sexed, but could be unfaithful Saturn conj mars in 12th frightened of father or male figuresMoon conj Neptune 1st house charm the birds off trees
More commonly found conjunctionsVenus conj mercury beautification of communications, articulation. Finds conflicts painful, strained atmospheres intolerable. need relationships where they can talk to people.Mercury conj Neptune confusions, read too much between the lines. Can mimic people espec if in first house. Strong imagination, intuitive, creative writing or deceptionsVenus conj Uranus sudden separations from loved ones, need independence within relationships, divorce aspectSun conj mars strong desire to control people can be vindictive and combativeMars conj venus very sexually active, but also needs cuddlesMars conj Uranus inventive, creative, orginalMars conj Saturn does ones duty in a cautious and constructive mannerMercury conj moon implies scholarly natureSaturn conj Pluto strong ambitionsSaturn conj Uranus need to learn how to accept changes, fear of unknown, Freedom v convention
Saturn conj Asc lack confidence, reserved, somber, serious and secretative. Strong sense of responsibilitySaturn conj MC social vulnerability great, many cases strict parents and/or lack of support in childhood
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I love the parable, If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.
The only aspects I have up there are Sun conjunct Mars and Moon opposite Jupiter :]
"Sun conj mars strong desire to control people can be vindictive and combative"No not really
------------------It's All Elemental-----My Chart if relevant
quote:Originally posted by tautomer4314:Saggi, I must say I really value and appreciate all the time and effort you are putting into simplifying all of this information and making really useful and quick refrences .
quote:I wonder if these aspects tell the truth of relationships, as in what was actually there as opposed to how one felt in the relationship. Many of the descriptions say, "you may have felt," but what was actually true of these relationships? I think this is a question of whether astrology determines your fate or whether it effects one's psychology. Often our feelings aren't a direct reflection of what's there. But what's "there" is always perceived, and perception is subjective. So all things will always be subjective. So, feelings and what's actually happening in a relationship are synonymous? Has anyone thought about this?
What astrology does is break down and compartmentalise, *facets* of your personality. it's like going on a journey of seld discovery. Perhaps once you learn what YOU need in relationships and being self aware of any outdated beliefs like, "am i worthy, am I good enough, will he like or respect me" and also realising you are not *Half an apple or orange* and life CAN exist without a partner. Perhaps then you won't be sooo needy, reliant on someone outside of yourself, when all you actually need is WITHIN yourself if only you were to look.....
quote:Originally posted by SaggiMC: synastry is a minefield and i have no interest in going down that route at the moment. it seems members around here are *obsessed* with relationships rather than learning the basics first. there is no point in jumping straight into synastry either as it would probably go straight over your head inanyevent..What astrology does is break down and compartmentalise, *facets* of your personality. it's like going on a journey of seld discovery. Perhaps once you learn what YOU need in relationships and being self aware of any outdated beliefs like, "am i worthy, am I good enough, will he like or respect me" and also realising you are not *Half an apple or orange* and life CAN exist without a partner. Perhaps then you won't be sooo needy, reliant on someone outside of yourself, when all you actually need is WITHIN yourself if only you were to look.....
Comon saggi, you don't need to get your undies in a bunch so much. I do understand where your frustrations are coming from, but you won't garner much more respect if you speak to others in a condecending manner. Even if you are referring to others and not the person you are speaking to.
I know you're quite aware of the dymanic and common personalities on this forum (I share your sentiments and do wish I could discuss it more but now is not the time nor the place), but responding to it in frustration, anger or any sort of negative emotion isn't going to change it. It will only insight flame wars. Take it from someone who has dealt with parallel situations to this before in years past. You're already doing what you can to lead others to where they need to be, but you can't make them. Venting is all well and good, just be mindful of where and how you do it.
quote:Originally posted by tautomer4314: Comon saggi, you don't need to get your undies in a bunch so much. I do understand where your frustrations are coming from, but you won't garner much more respect if you speak to others in a condecending manner. Even if you are referring to others and not the person you are speaking to. I know you're quite aware of the dymanic and common personalities on this forum (I share your sentiments and do wish I could discuss it more [b]but now is not the time nor the place), but responding to it in frustration, anger or any sort of negative emotion isn't going to change it. It will only insight flame wars. Take it from someone who has dealt with parallel situations to this before in years past. You're already doing what you can to lead others to where they need to be, but you can't make them. Venting is all well and good, just be mindful of where and how you do it.[/B]
I know you're quite aware of the dymanic and common personalities on this forum (I share your sentiments and do wish I could discuss it more [b]but now is not the time nor the place), but responding to it in frustration, anger or any sort of negative emotion isn't going to change it. It will only insight flame wars. Take it from someone who has dealt with parallel situations to this before in years past. You're already doing what you can to lead others to where they need to be, but you can't make them. Venting is all well and good, just be mindful of where and how you do it.
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this thread is intended for basic common aspects NOT leading into synatry that's another time and place.
and speaking to me like a child and belittling like, "you don't need to get your undies in a bunch so much" is far far worse than my explanations. don't think so
there was no emotion in my response but simple explanation. It IS a fact that this forum is 90% relationship problems which I think is excessive to say the least.
I have no hestitation in responding to those in PR forum or or 2.0 and yes I do find it frustrating, who wouldn't when over 90% are only interested in having answers dropped in their laps and can hardly be bothered to do any research themselves....Now THIS is venting but not an untruth here either..
quote:Originally posted by Yin:SaggiMC, do you think semi-sextiles and semi-squares are important? I have a semi-square between my Sun-Moon so I'm wondering...
No, don't use them as they are minor aspects. I do however, feel that quintiles and bi quintiles are prob worth researching as they can show hidden talents.
If you are struggling with a lack of aspects to a particular planet, what I would suggest is you look at parallels in declinations and midpoints. I did Ami ann's unaspected venus in gemini only to find jupiter was parallel which acts like a conjunciton...
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quote:What astrology does is break down and compartmentalise, *facets* of your personality. it's like going on a journey of seld discovery. Perhaps once you learn what YOU need in relationships and being self aware of any outdated beliefs like, "am i worthy, am I good enough, will he like or respect me" and also realising you are not *Half an apple or orange* and life CAN exist without a partner. Perhaps then you won't be sooo needy, reliant on someone outside of yourself, when all you actually need is WITHIN yourself if only you were to look.....
This part alone unrelated to anything else ...
quote:Mercury opp Saturn not very communicative person
I'm PLENTY communicative (Gemini Mars, 3rd house Pluto), but I have a lot of insecurity about what I say.
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