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T O P I C R E V I E Wperegrine Gunter SachsNationality: GermanOccupation: Claimed to have never worked a day in his life.Wealth: BillionaireFamily: Mother was the daughter of Wilhelm von Opel. Father was Willy Sachs, sole owner of Fichtel & Sachs, a leading manufacturer of ball bearings, who committed suicide by shooting himself in the head.Notable Women: Soraya Esfandiary, Anne-Marie Faure, Brigitte Bardot, Mirja LarssonPassions: Photographer, author, industrialist, and latterly head of an institute that researched claims of astrologyAge At Death: 76Cause Of Death: SuicideQuotation: “The loss of mental control over my life was an undignified condition, which I decided to counter decisively.” (Sach’s suicide note)What To Learn From Gunter: Roses won’t necessarily win over a lady like Bridgette Bardot, but a thousand, released over her home from a helicopter, might.^he goes first because of his interest in astrology. peregrine Howard HughesNickname: “The World’s Greatest Womanizer”Nationality: AmericanOccupation: Business magnate, industrialist, aviator, engineer, film producer, director, hotelier, philanthropist, CEO Trans World AirlinesWealth: Billionaire.Notable Women: Billie Dove, Bette Davis, Ava Gardner, Olivia de Havilland, Katharine Hepburn, Ginger Rogers, Gene Tierney, Joan Fontaine, Jean PetersPassions: “I don’t think Howard could love anything that did not have a motor in it.” - Gene TiernyQuotations: “I’m not a paranoid deranged millionaire. Goddammit, I’m a billionaire.”What to learn from Howard: “Wash four distinct and separate times, using lots of lather each time from individual bars of soap.”peregrine Porfirio RubirosaNickname: “Toujours Prêt”Cause Of Death: Crashed his Ferrari 250 GT into a chestnut tree.Nationality: DominicanOccupation: To Sammy Davis Jr. “Your profession is being an entertainer. Mine is being a playboy.” Also rumored to have been a spy.Wealth: Married three of the world’s richest womenNotable Women: Dolores del Río, Eartha Kitt, Marilyn Monroe, Ava Gardner, Rita Hayworth, Soraya Esfandiary, Peggy Hopkins Joyce, Joan Crawford,Veronica Lake, Kim Novak, Judy Garland, Eva Peron, Flor de Oro Trujillo Ledesma, Doris Duke, Zsa Zsa Gabor, Barbara Hutton, Danielle Darrieux, Odile RodinPassions: Beautiful women, fast cars, poloAge At Death: 56Quotation: “Rubirosa was Cary Grant, Errol Flynn, Charles Boyer, Burt Lancaster and Tyrone Power all in one, and I was out on the town with all of them.” – Ertha KittWhat To Learn From Rubi: If all of Paris refers to 16-inch pepper grinders as your last name, you can marry the richest woman in the world. Three times.peregrine GIANNI AGNELLINickname: ”The Rake of the Riviera”Nationality: ItalianOccupation: CEO, Principal shareholder of FiatWealth: Richest man in modern Italian history. (Controlled 4.4% of Italy’s GDP, 3.1% of its industrial workforce, and 16.5% of its industrial investment in research)Notable Women: Donna Marella dei principi di Castagneto, Pamela Harriman, Anita Ekberg, Jackie RogersPassions: Fashion, sailing, fast cars, skiing, horsesQuotation: ”Miracles can be made, but only by sweating.”peregrine John F. KennedyNickname: “Prince of Camelot”Nationality: AmericanOccupation: Naval Officer, Senator, President of the United StatesWealth: Kennedy estate valued at $1 billionNotable Women: Judith Campbell, Blaze Starr, Jill Cowan, Pam Turnure, Marilyn Monroe, Gunilla von Post, Mary Pinchot Meyer, Mimi Beardsley AlfordPassions: Diplomacy, Military, LiteratureAge at death: 46Cause of death: AssassinatedQuotation: To UK Prime Minister Harold Macmillan “I wonder how it is for you, Harold? If I don’t have a woman for three days, I get terrible headaches.”What to learn from Jack: Be a good friend and your friends will lie for you.LOVE LETTERS FROM THE PRINCE OF CAMELOTLast year, nearly fifty years after her clandestine affair with then-Senator Kennedy, Gunilla von Post included eleven hand-written letters and three telegrams in her book Love, Jack. While the correspondence further confirms JFK’s notorious infidelity, it also reveals his softer, more vulnerable side:“I said [to my father] that I’d fallen in love with you, and I didn’t think I could go on the way things are now, that I wanted to end my marriage so that I could be with you. He yelled, ‘You’re out of your mind. You’re going to be president someday. This would ruin everything. Divorce is impossible.’ Then he repeated something he’s been telling us all our lives: ‘Can’t you get it into your head that it’s not important what you really are? The only important thing is what people think you are.’”Two years after the last telegram, as Von Post recalls in her book, she and Kennedy both attended the April in Paris Ball at the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel in New York City.“I wanted to rush into his arms, but this was a different place and time, and discretion ruled. Nevertheless, he embraced me quickly and kissed me on both cheeks. ‘It’s marvelous to see you,’ he said, looking into my eyes. Then he turned quickly and walked through the door into a room full of a thousand people.”peregrine Prince Aly Khan:Nickname: “The Love Prince”Nationality: PakistaniOccupation: Pakistan’s representative to the UN, vice president of UN General AssemblyWealth: $800 millionFamily: Son of Aga Khan III, the head of the Ismaili Muslims, and the father of Aga Khan IVNotable Women: Rita Hayworth, Hon. Joan Guinness, British debutante Margaret Whigham, Thelma Viscountess Furness, Pamela Churchill, Gene Tierney, French model BettinaPassions: Military, diplomacy, horses, fast cars. Owned 900 thoroughbreds at stud farms in Ireland and FranceAge at Death: 49Cause of Death: Crashed his Lancia head-on into an oncoming car en route to a Paris party. Chauffeur, who he’d asked to sit in the back seat, lunged forward upon impact and broke Khan’s neck.Quotations: On marrying Hon. Joan Guiness: ”I had been involved with several women. I was tired of trouble. Joan was a sane and solid girl, and I thought if I married her, I would stay out of trouble.”What to learn from Aly: Keep your chauffeur in the driver’s seat.peregrine Errol FlynnNICKNAME: ”Flynny”NATIONALITY: Australian & IrishOCCUPATION: ActorWEALTH: One of Hollywood’s highest paid stars in the 1930s and ’40sNOTABLE WOMEN: Lili Damita, Nora Eddington, Patrice Wymore, Beverly Aadland, Nell GwynnePASSIONS: Sailing, Drinking, Boxing, SexAGE AT DEATH: 50CAUSE OF DEATH: Heart AttackQUOTATION: (On deathbed, re: mistress) “Don’t let poor Nelly starve.”WHAT TO LEARN FROM FLYNN: Beat two statutory rape allegations and the world will adopt a saying with your name. i.e. “In like Flynn.”SaturnineMothI noticed a lot of critical degrees, 0-29-15and Q/bQ suns, moon, and ascendant aspects~>.>; you researched all of these yourself...?Flynn idc... lotta terrible deaths there too, eh... >.<; ugh~memento moristarfairyAsc/dc along Gemini/sag or libra/Aries axis-- mmmhmm! peregrine quote:Originally posted by SaturnineMoth:I noticed a lot of critical degrees, 0-29-15and Q/bQ suns, moon, and ascendant aspects~>.>; you researched all of these yourself...?Flynn idc... lotta terrible deaths there too, eh... >.<; ugh~memento moriFrom an article but the others didnt interest me as much.SaturnineMothwhy not!? peregrineThere were only 12 on the list so im only missing 5. Not cool enough death idk SaturnineMothJupiter - Mars/Saturn aspects in all but 1st, Jupiter 8h, Saturn to MC/10th looking for any patterns but, really surprised there aren't too many.... JFK's chart is crazy~ ^^ Should have included this in my thesis... blah~ wasted opportunities~ haha>.>; you're just picky~ peregrineWho would you add?SaturnineMothhmm maybe Onassis and Heff ~ ^___^ <3non?>.>; and there are pleasure seeking women too... where's the ladies at??no, I don't mean the Hilton or the Olsens... >.<; *shouldn'thavetoclarifybutfeelsitisnecessary*peregrineyeah but the women lose it and end up looking like.. cats with all the plastic surge. better to burn out than fade away ya know as cobain sez.bring on the women then!am fascinated at brushing up against someone like this woman. some posture like so but they lose their chic when u get to know them. coincidentally she is a cap. An unauthorised biography of French first lady Carla Bruni paints an unflattering picture of the Italian ex-supermodel, claiming she lives a solitary life, neglects her charitable works and forces her husband to socialise with her former lovers.Carla, A Secret Life, by former journalist Besma Lahouri, discloses that following her marriage to President Nicolas Sarkozy a presidential adviser was assigned to help rebrand Bruni, whose former lovers include Mick Jagger and Eric Clapton, as a demure political wife.Since he married the woman that some called a 'man-eater', (Mr Sarkozy) has to put up every day with this burdensome tribe. Singers, philosophers, lawyers, bosses, men of the press or politics It also alleges that Bruni, 43, has had extensive plastic surgery despite denials, and had a 20-year relationship with a Paris surgeon.The disclosures appeared in a report on Saturday in British newspaper The Times, which has been given the book ahead of publication along with the French weekly Marianne.AdvertisementDescribing, Bruni as a "female Don Juan", the book, which the author says the Elysee Palace tried to discourage, says she has maintained contact with former paramours."Since he married the woman that some called a 'man-eater', (Mr Sarkozy) has to put up every day with this burdensome tribe. Singers, philosophers, lawyers, bosses, men of the press or politics."No less than three such men were house guests at Bruni's Riviera villa last year during Sarkozy's first holiday there.Bruni had finally met her match in her marriage to Sarkozy with a "man even more unpredictable than her", Lahouri said.After their whirlwind romance and 2008 marriage, the Elysee Palace embarked on a carefully managed image makeover of the new first lady led by presidential aide Pierre Charon."Carla had warned me 'they are going to say a lot of things about me, about my past life. Things, photographs are going to come out'... So we had to help give her a new image. That of a shy young woman...," he told Lahouri.That image was successfully projected during Bruni's state visit to London in March 2008 when she was feted by the British media for her effortless chic.Behind the scenes, however, the book says she lives a solitary life, and Lahouri describes her foundation to fight AIDS as "an empty shell".Lahouri, also the author of a best-selling biography on French footballer Zinedine Zidane, spent two years interviewing family friends and Bruni colleagues.She found her to be "attractive and impetuous, free and calculating... faithful in friendship and fickle in love".But she added she believed Bruni's true nature was a long way from that of the "well-brought up girl with her head bowed"."I did not set out to be unkind but to reveal what she really is... The image of Carla Bruni is totally false," she said.Lahouri says Charon attempted to deter her from writing the book, warning her, "It's not worth it. It's too complicated'."The Elysee had also tried to obtain a copy of the manuscript and was now hinting at possible legal action, she said.KeroseneIf you don't add marie Antoinette this thread is a fail.Shes the queen of pleasure peregrine^u add her. too lazy. isn't she a taurus w/ leo moon or was that louis?KeroseneShes a scorpio with a libra moonI would rather spend effort adding myself hehe
Gunter SachsNationality: GermanOccupation: Claimed to have never worked a day in his life.Wealth: BillionaireFamily: Mother was the daughter of Wilhelm von Opel. Father was Willy Sachs, sole owner of Fichtel & Sachs, a leading manufacturer of ball bearings, who committed suicide by shooting himself in the head.Notable Women: Soraya Esfandiary, Anne-Marie Faure, Brigitte Bardot, Mirja LarssonPassions: Photographer, author, industrialist, and latterly head of an institute that researched claims of astrologyAge At Death: 76Cause Of Death: SuicideQuotation: “The loss of mental control over my life was an undignified condition, which I decided to counter decisively.” (Sach’s suicide note)What To Learn From Gunter: Roses won’t necessarily win over a lady like Bridgette Bardot, but a thousand, released over her home from a helicopter, might.
^he goes first because of his interest in astrology.
Howard HughesNickname: “The World’s Greatest Womanizer”Nationality: AmericanOccupation: Business magnate, industrialist, aviator, engineer, film producer, director, hotelier, philanthropist, CEO Trans World AirlinesWealth: Billionaire.Notable Women: Billie Dove, Bette Davis, Ava Gardner, Olivia de Havilland, Katharine Hepburn, Ginger Rogers, Gene Tierney, Joan Fontaine, Jean PetersPassions: “I don’t think Howard could love anything that did not have a motor in it.” - Gene TiernyQuotations: “I’m not a paranoid deranged millionaire. Goddammit, I’m a billionaire.”What to learn from Howard: “Wash four distinct and separate times, using lots of lather each time from individual bars of soap.”
Porfirio RubirosaNickname: “Toujours Prêt”Cause Of Death: Crashed his Ferrari 250 GT into a chestnut tree.Nationality: DominicanOccupation: To Sammy Davis Jr. “Your profession is being an entertainer. Mine is being a playboy.” Also rumored to have been a spy.Wealth: Married three of the world’s richest womenNotable Women: Dolores del Río, Eartha Kitt, Marilyn Monroe, Ava Gardner, Rita Hayworth, Soraya Esfandiary, Peggy Hopkins Joyce, Joan Crawford,Veronica Lake, Kim Novak, Judy Garland, Eva Peron, Flor de Oro Trujillo Ledesma, Doris Duke, Zsa Zsa Gabor, Barbara Hutton, Danielle Darrieux, Odile RodinPassions: Beautiful women, fast cars, poloAge At Death: 56Quotation: “Rubirosa was Cary Grant, Errol Flynn, Charles Boyer, Burt Lancaster and Tyrone Power all in one, and I was out on the town with all of them.” – Ertha KittWhat To Learn From Rubi: If all of Paris refers to 16-inch pepper grinders as your last name, you can marry the richest woman in the world. Three times.
GIANNI AGNELLINickname: ”The Rake of the Riviera”Nationality: ItalianOccupation: CEO, Principal shareholder of FiatWealth: Richest man in modern Italian history. (Controlled 4.4% of Italy’s GDP, 3.1% of its industrial workforce, and 16.5% of its industrial investment in research)Notable Women: Donna Marella dei principi di Castagneto, Pamela Harriman, Anita Ekberg, Jackie RogersPassions: Fashion, sailing, fast cars, skiing, horsesQuotation: ”Miracles can be made, but only by sweating.”
John F. KennedyNickname: “Prince of Camelot”Nationality: AmericanOccupation: Naval Officer, Senator, President of the United StatesWealth: Kennedy estate valued at $1 billionNotable Women: Judith Campbell, Blaze Starr, Jill Cowan, Pam Turnure, Marilyn Monroe, Gunilla von Post, Mary Pinchot Meyer, Mimi Beardsley AlfordPassions: Diplomacy, Military, LiteratureAge at death: 46Cause of death: AssassinatedQuotation: To UK Prime Minister Harold Macmillan “I wonder how it is for you, Harold? If I don’t have a woman for three days, I get terrible headaches.”What to learn from Jack: Be a good friend and your friends will lie for you.
LOVE LETTERS FROM THE PRINCE OF CAMELOTLast year, nearly fifty years after her clandestine affair with then-Senator Kennedy, Gunilla von Post included eleven hand-written letters and three telegrams in her book Love, Jack. While the correspondence further confirms JFK’s notorious infidelity, it also reveals his softer, more vulnerable side:“I said [to my father] that I’d fallen in love with you, and I didn’t think I could go on the way things are now, that I wanted to end my marriage so that I could be with you. He yelled, ‘You’re out of your mind. You’re going to be president someday. This would ruin everything. Divorce is impossible.’ Then he repeated something he’s been telling us all our lives: ‘Can’t you get it into your head that it’s not important what you really are? The only important thing is what people think you are.’”
Two years after the last telegram, as Von Post recalls in her book, she and Kennedy both attended the April in Paris Ball at the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel in New York City.“I wanted to rush into his arms, but this was a different place and time, and discretion ruled. Nevertheless, he embraced me quickly and kissed me on both cheeks. ‘It’s marvelous to see you,’ he said, looking into my eyes. Then he turned quickly and walked through the door into a room full of a thousand people.”
Prince Aly Khan:Nickname: “The Love Prince”Nationality: PakistaniOccupation: Pakistan’s representative to the UN, vice president of UN General AssemblyWealth: $800 millionFamily: Son of Aga Khan III, the head of the Ismaili Muslims, and the father of Aga Khan IVNotable Women: Rita Hayworth, Hon. Joan Guinness, British debutante Margaret Whigham, Thelma Viscountess Furness, Pamela Churchill, Gene Tierney, French model BettinaPassions: Military, diplomacy, horses, fast cars. Owned 900 thoroughbreds at stud farms in Ireland and FranceAge at Death: 49Cause of Death: Crashed his Lancia head-on into an oncoming car en route to a Paris party. Chauffeur, who he’d asked to sit in the back seat, lunged forward upon impact and broke Khan’s neck.Quotations: On marrying Hon. Joan Guiness: ”I had been involved with several women. I was tired of trouble. Joan was a sane and solid girl, and I thought if I married her, I would stay out of trouble.”What to learn from Aly: Keep your chauffeur in the driver’s seat.
Errol FlynnNICKNAME: ”Flynny”NATIONALITY: Australian & IrishOCCUPATION: ActorWEALTH: One of Hollywood’s highest paid stars in the 1930s and ’40sNOTABLE WOMEN: Lili Damita, Nora Eddington, Patrice Wymore, Beverly Aadland, Nell GwynnePASSIONS: Sailing, Drinking, Boxing, SexAGE AT DEATH: 50CAUSE OF DEATH: Heart AttackQUOTATION: (On deathbed, re: mistress) “Don’t let poor Nelly starve.”WHAT TO LEARN FROM FLYNN: Beat two statutory rape allegations and the world will adopt a saying with your name. i.e. “In like Flynn.”
>.>; you researched all of these yourself...?
Flynn idc...
lotta terrible deaths there too, eh... >.<;
ugh~
memento mori
quote:Originally posted by SaturnineMoth:I noticed a lot of critical degrees, 0-29-15and Q/bQ suns, moon, and ascendant aspects~>.>; you researched all of these yourself...?Flynn idc... lotta terrible deaths there too, eh... >.<; ugh~memento mori
From an article but the others didnt interest me as much.
looking for any patterns but, really surprised there aren't too many....
JFK's chart is crazy~ ^^
Should have included this in my thesis... blah~ wasted opportunities~ haha
>.>; you're just picky~
non?
>.>; and there are pleasure seeking women too... where's the ladies at??
no, I don't mean the Hilton or the Olsens...
>.<; *shouldn'thavetoclarifybutfeelsitisnecessary*
bring on the women then!
am fascinated at brushing up against someone like this woman. some posture like so but they lose their chic when u get to know them. coincidentally she is a cap.
An unauthorised biography of French first lady Carla Bruni paints an unflattering picture of the Italian ex-supermodel, claiming she lives a solitary life, neglects her charitable works and forces her husband to socialise with her former lovers.Carla, A Secret Life, by former journalist Besma Lahouri, discloses that following her marriage to President Nicolas Sarkozy a presidential adviser was assigned to help rebrand Bruni, whose former lovers include Mick Jagger and Eric Clapton, as a demure political wife.Since he married the woman that some called a 'man-eater', (Mr Sarkozy) has to put up every day with this burdensome tribe. Singers, philosophers, lawyers, bosses, men of the press or politics
It also alleges that Bruni, 43, has had extensive plastic surgery despite denials, and had a 20-year relationship with a Paris surgeon.The disclosures appeared in a report on Saturday in British newspaper The Times, which has been given the book ahead of publication along with the French weekly Marianne.AdvertisementDescribing, Bruni as a "female Don Juan", the book, which the author says the Elysee Palace tried to discourage, says she has maintained contact with former paramours."Since he married the woman that some called a 'man-eater', (Mr Sarkozy) has to put up every day with this burdensome tribe. Singers, philosophers, lawyers, bosses, men of the press or politics."No less than three such men were house guests at Bruni's Riviera villa last year during Sarkozy's first holiday there.Bruni had finally met her match in her marriage to Sarkozy with a "man even more unpredictable than her", Lahouri said.After their whirlwind romance and 2008 marriage, the Elysee Palace embarked on a carefully managed image makeover of the new first lady led by presidential aide Pierre Charon."Carla had warned me 'they are going to say a lot of things about me, about my past life. Things, photographs are going to come out'... So we had to help give her a new image. That of a shy young woman...," he told Lahouri.That image was successfully projected during Bruni's state visit to London in March 2008 when she was feted by the British media for her effortless chic.Behind the scenes, however, the book says she lives a solitary life, and Lahouri describes her foundation to fight AIDS as "an empty shell".Lahouri, also the author of a best-selling biography on French footballer Zinedine Zidane, spent two years interviewing family friends and Bruni colleagues.She found her to be "attractive and impetuous, free and calculating... faithful in friendship and fickle in love".But she added she believed Bruni's true nature was a long way from that of the "well-brought up girl with her head bowed"."I did not set out to be unkind but to reveal what she really is... The image of Carla Bruni is totally false," she said.Lahouri says Charon attempted to deter her from writing the book, warning her, "It's not worth it. It's too complicated'."The Elysee had also tried to obtain a copy of the manuscript and was now hinting at possible legal action, she said.
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