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T O P I C R E V I E WKeroseneI fail at all of them, it does not really bother me but some people are just soooooo pure. It boggles the mind,So what placements and aspects suggest a "sinful" vs pure person.Everyone says virgo is pure lol a lot of dirty birdies from that sign too.23Strong Jupiter - strong morals and then you also have a planet with poor aspects to it and the person becomes excessive in a way.KeroseneYou know I was thinking the same thing.Jupiter is general seems pretty skeazy... somethingexcellentI think to be a really moralistic person, you'll need a good balance of Jupiter and Saturn. Evolution and experience tempered with learning and using wisdom from them...I'm so bad too, but I've lost my faith in morals any ways, so like, whatever lmfao! Pride, wrath, greed, and lust are my pitfalls. That's like already more than half of them lmaoooo.KeroseneWhy do you view them as pitfalls at least we are fun!!!I guess you might have to deal with shaming but screw prudes, I don't even take them seriously.I think jupiter expands whatever it touches so if it aspects venus-mars that just gets a boost. I think you have mars square jupiter and I have Venus square jupiter.somethingexcellentYeah, and besides, pitfulls can have stuff like gold and treasures in them! So while I'm down here laughing it up and enjoying myself, the good people can stay up there and do whatever it is good people do. Wait until marriage? Be modest? KeroseneYou know what's weird.Your into sexual encounters but not into the courting part.(MARS-JUPITER) The courting is my favorite part..I just like intimacy, like cuddling kissing and just teasing people. I don't really want to have sex with them half the time.(Venus-Jupiter)Hmmm Natalia Kills knows what I'd rather do on a saturday night than go to cafe and read.. -___-zzzzzzzzzI've totally lost my way.. Probably progressed Cancer.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0tuY2TRguc PixieJaneI don't know anybody who is pure (as in never has outbursts, never indulges, etc), and I'm doubtful that any such person exists, save maybe someone elderly (or approaching that) who has retreated from the world and done a lot of reflecting before and after (and after a lifetime of mistakes).'Course it's all subjective and rife with rationalization, one person operating on wrath & pride can accuse those who refuse to march in step as being guilty of wrath & pride. And two people who believe they're pure of the 7 deadly sins may not agree with each other as one tries hard to impose his religion on the nation (which the other deems as pride, thinking himself better than everyone else to try to run their lives for them, and such people are often known for wrath when they don't get their way) while in turn the other person is viewed as having sloth (being too spiritually and physically lazy to help improve society, who hide their light rather than share it). To me there has to be balance. A little pride, wrath, greed, lust, and the like are necessary to motivate people to thrive. It's only when they become obsessions (as in requiring intervention as the person is facing legal and medical problems over it) that they become self-destructive. That's probably my Libra (on the Scorpio cusp) stellium talking but my Sag stellium may contribute as Sag can be interested in moral & ethical philosophy. StarlightSmileSupremeI am not really sure how pure you have to be to be considered "pure." I might be purer than some but I am not the purest on the planet. I still think I am more pure than people around me because I tend to be on the side of the ascetic. I think, in my case: Virgo on the cusp of twelve, sun conjunct the cusp of twelve, Saturn in the eighth and trine Virgo sun from Taurus - this in particular because Taurus is said to rule the corporeal senses. Having Saturn there can somewhat mute these inclinations, to indulge these senses as often. When it is trine Virgo sun, it's obvious the meaning. Saturn square Venus eighth house to tenth. Venus is very sensual and corporeal when it rules Taurus. With a square from Saturn in Taurus, it's, again, pretty obvious. Lastly, moon opposite Neptune. Neptune likes to live in a holy fantasy world of unbridled, untamed purity and asceticism. It satisfies Neptune's devotional urges.I would call myself borderline ascetic. I still eat too many sweets and drink one can of beer every great once in a while. I like movies and television, too. KeroseneYeah good points Pixie.Hmm Idk I think mom is quite pure at this state, though I think she has many earthly desires to begin with.There is definitely an innocence and vulnerability which is heavily guard through a thorny thicket. Though I'm sure wrath was a major sin her past, can be quite nasty when crossed.Though I don't ever see myself changing because I don't have catholic guilt. THANK THE STARSSSSSSSSSSSSS. guilt can definitely be a major cripple in life.LOL SE, this clip makes me think of you... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR9_X9O6Yzw leo mars heh?LucieLemonade quote:Originally posted by PixieJane:I don't know anybody who is pure (as in never has outbursts, never indulges, etc), and I'm doubtful that any such person exists, save maybe someone elderly (or approaching that) who has retreated from the world and done a lot of reflecting before and after (and after a lifetime of mistakes). My grandmother was like that. Period. She was a pure person her whole life. She didn't retreat from the world after a life time of mistakes. I will have to ask my mother for her birth details. But she wont' know the time. They didn't record them back then. She was born around 1910. But I do think you are right in that it's probably an old fashioned thing to be "pure". We all seem to have relative moralities these days. PixieJane quote:Originally posted by Kerosene:I don't have catholic guilt. THANK THE STARSSSSSSSSSSSSS. guilt can definitely be a major cripple in lifeI was raised in the Bible Belt but by parents who despised the churches and my granny had hippie sensibilities in her version of Christianity who felt most local churches were hypocrites and pharisees that Jesus condemned. As a result I wasn't indoctrinated as most others were and I'm so happy for that. Growing up in rural East Texas (aka "behind the pine curtain") without heavy (and typically harsh) religious indoctrination is like winning the lottery jackpot! I'm sure my life would've been a lot harder than necessary if I had Bible Belt Christianity shoved down my throat on top of everything else. I've seen interviews with like gay people who were suicidal because they thought God hated them to "make them gay" (or at least to refuse to make them straight) and were literally executing themselves thinking they deserved to burn eternally. So I see what you mean about unnecessary guilt and again I feel I've dodged a bullet, and having dodged that bullet in East Texas it's like I dodged an entire magazine!
So what placements and aspects suggest a "sinful" vs pure person.
Everyone says virgo is pure lol a lot of dirty birdies from that sign too.
I'm so bad too, but I've lost my faith in morals any ways, so like, whatever lmfao! Pride, wrath, greed, and lust are my pitfalls. That's like already more than half of them lmaoooo.
I think jupiter expands whatever it touches so if it aspects venus-mars that just gets a boost.
I think you have mars square jupiter and I have Venus square jupiter.
Your into sexual encounters but not into the courting part.(MARS-JUPITER)
The courting is my favorite part..I just like intimacy, like cuddling kissing and just teasing people. I don't really want to have sex with them half the time.(Venus-Jupiter)
Hmmm Natalia Kills knows what I'd rather do on a saturday night than go to cafe and read.. -___-zzzzzzzzzI've totally lost my way.. Probably progressed Cancer.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0tuY2TRguc
'Course it's all subjective and rife with rationalization, one person operating on wrath & pride can accuse those who refuse to march in step as being guilty of wrath & pride. And two people who believe they're pure of the 7 deadly sins may not agree with each other as one tries hard to impose his religion on the nation (which the other deems as pride, thinking himself better than everyone else to try to run their lives for them, and such people are often known for wrath when they don't get their way) while in turn the other person is viewed as having sloth (being too spiritually and physically lazy to help improve society, who hide their light rather than share it).
To me there has to be balance. A little pride, wrath, greed, lust, and the like are necessary to motivate people to thrive. It's only when they become obsessions (as in requiring intervention as the person is facing legal and medical problems over it) that they become self-destructive. That's probably my Libra (on the Scorpio cusp) stellium talking but my Sag stellium may contribute as Sag can be interested in moral & ethical philosophy.
I would call myself borderline ascetic. I still eat too many sweets and drink one can of beer every great once in a while. I like movies and television, too.
Hmm Idk I think mom is quite pure at this state, though I think she has many earthly desires to begin with.There is definitely an innocence and vulnerability which is heavily guard through a thorny thicket. Though I'm sure wrath was a major sin her past, can be quite nasty when crossed.
Though I don't ever see myself changing because I don't have catholic guilt. THANK THE STARSSSSSSSSSSSSS. guilt can definitely be a major cripple in life.
LOL SE, this clip makes me think of you... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR9_X9O6Yzw
leo mars heh?
quote:Originally posted by PixieJane:I don't know anybody who is pure (as in never has outbursts, never indulges, etc), and I'm doubtful that any such person exists, save maybe someone elderly (or approaching that) who has retreated from the world and done a lot of reflecting before and after (and after a lifetime of mistakes).
My grandmother was like that. Period. She was a pure person her whole life. She didn't retreat from the world after a life time of mistakes.
I will have to ask my mother for her birth details. But she wont' know the time. They didn't record them back then. She was born around 1910.
But I do think you are right in that it's probably an old fashioned thing to be "pure". We all seem to have relative moralities these days.
quote:Originally posted by Kerosene:I don't have catholic guilt. THANK THE STARSSSSSSSSSSSSS. guilt can definitely be a major cripple in life
I was raised in the Bible Belt but by parents who despised the churches and my granny had hippie sensibilities in her version of Christianity who felt most local churches were hypocrites and pharisees that Jesus condemned. As a result I wasn't indoctrinated as most others were and I'm so happy for that. Growing up in rural East Texas (aka "behind the pine curtain") without heavy (and typically harsh) religious indoctrination is like winning the lottery jackpot! I'm sure my life would've been a lot harder than necessary if I had Bible Belt Christianity shoved down my throat on top of everything else.
I've seen interviews with like gay people who were suicidal because they thought God hated them to "make them gay" (or at least to refuse to make them straight) and were literally executing themselves thinking they deserved to burn eternally. So I see what you mean about unnecessary guilt and again I feel I've dodged a bullet, and having dodged that bullet in East Texas it's like I dodged an entire magazine!
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