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T O P I C R E V I E WSoulsjourneyI have natal Mars (virgo) square Uranus (sag), and with Pluto (scorpio) midpoint = semi-square both Mars and Uranus, to the exact.Does anyone have any idea how this might play out in this combination?TheTruthIsTheWay11Mars square Uranus usually indicates someone who is eccentric and rebellious (not necessarily in a bad way, but possibly). I have this too, and I'm eccentric in every way possible. Musical choice, Spiritual beliefs, Political beliefs, etc. I would assume that with a Virgo Mars, the type of rebelliousness or eccentricity would be somewhat driven by practicality. So, for an example, maybe there is a societal standard that you see as being inefficient, and so you have a different way of doing things, that you personally believe is more effective. Something like that. Or maybe health-oriented, since Virgo is associated with health matters. Maybe your views on health, diet, etc. are different from what people normally believe. Uranus in Sagittarius means it could be differences in philosophy, religion, law. And maybe, in this case, Mars in Virgo would mean that you approach those subjects with a bit of practicality, while holding different views, once again. I'm just giving some possibilities here. Since Uranus is the primary Planet for eccentricity, in this configuration, it's probably more likely to take on Sagittarius traits. While Mars changes your temperament and drive towards those beliefs. House placements, and the Houses that Uranus rules in your Natal Chart, can also probably colour this aspect. I'm not sure about the rest, and don't really have time to think it through. I don't spend a lot of time working with midpoints and semi-squares. Kannon McAfeeTheTruthIsTheWay11, explained it pretty well.Mars, the planet of personal action and assertion, takes on a line of divergence when in hard aspect like this with Uranus. Most folks with this aspect act/work out of sync with what the group mind is doing and expecting. When they 'zig' you 'zag.' That can be true within your work, along the lines TheTruth explained, but it will likely be seen in all areas of your life if the aspect configuration is as tight as I believe you are saying it is.Pluto adds in an urgency that implies you feel this is necessary for you to maintain your power. Whether you always express it outwardly or not, a little revolutionary lives inside you. You probably see mainstream ways and authorities as a challenge to your individuality and personal power.If these energies are not applied proactively in a a reasonably healthy way, you may find yourself more on the reactionary side. These aspects can support individuality, but they are better thought of as urges to inventiveness and exploration.Finding your birthdate, I can see that Jupiter in Aries is trine your Uranus, which is an excellent outlet for this. Think of exploration more as your outlet for these energies, that you can explore who you are within various cultural and sub-cultural settings.------------------The Declinations GuyRising Sign Descriptions♈ ♉ ♊ ♋ ♌ ♍ ♎ ♏ ♐ ♑ ♒ ♓RandallWelcome!SoulsjourneyHi Truth and Kannon,thanks for replying, I agree with everything you guys said. quote:Originally posted by TheTruthIsTheWay11: House placements, and the Houses that Uranus rules in your Natal Chart, can also probably colour this aspect. Here is my house placements, I agree on the rebellious energy but I feel like its affecting all parts of my life (work, family, friends, studies, society), and its growing in a very an intense and angry way (due to being told no).Mars Virgo 23°24'44 in house 5Uranus Sagittarius 23°01'31 in house 7Pluto Scorpio 8°32'13 in house 6 quote:Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:Most folks with this aspect act/work out of sync with what the group mind is doing and expecting. When they 'zig' you 'zag.'...You probably see mainstream ways and authorities as a challenge to your individuality and personal power.Yes this is exactly what has been happening. I use to be rebellious but in a hidden sort of way and still working with society at large. But in the last 3 years I've been diverting from mainstream more and more, to the point where I was apprehended for wanting to be alone (because I don't feel like I was understood by people anyway). The idea of living like a hermit is really appealing to me at the moment.I don't know why all a sudden its so uncontrollable, and I'm concerned that it might go too extreme, and ruin my social life forever lol quote:Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:These aspects can support individuality, but they are better thought of as urges to inventiveness and exploration.My Aries Jupiter is 27°15'25 in house 12 and retrograde. I really like the idea of exploration and inventiveness too. I've been jumping around from travelling to back to studying, and now I want to go travelling again. But I feel the lack of support from society, and peers.Soulsjourney quote:Originally posted by Randall:Welcome!Hello!Kannon McAfee quote:Originally posted by Soulsjourney:My Aries Jupiter is 27°15'25 in house 12 and retrograde. I really like the idea of exploration and inventiveness too. I've been jumping around from travelling to back to studying, and now I want to go travelling again. But I feel the lack of support from society, and peers.I get the lack of support, but I'd say the combined interest in study and travel point to this as a learning phase of self-discovery. Once you get a stronger feel for who you are and what you can do, you'll be far less inclined to pull away from society and more confident in asserting yourself within it. Plus you have been experiencing Uranus's initial transit over your natal Jupiter and it is coming back after a retrograde period away from it. Get ready to pack your bags and choose your next adventure. Keep talking it up and you'll find a way. This transit (to April 2019) is for exploration and adventure. It will almost certainly involve a lucky break or an opportunity from out of the blue to allow it and to reward it. Just talk up your need to do this with those who are receptive -- maybe a student exchange program, etc. Resources for doing it will be tighter than you'd like, but keep looking for what options there may be for making it happen.------------------The Declinations GuyRising Sign Descriptions♈ ♉ ♊ ♋ ♌ ♍ ♎ ♏ ♐ ♑ ♒ ♓SoulsjourneyThanks for the info, I look forward to upcoming changes
Does anyone have any idea how this might play out in this combination?
I would assume that with a Virgo Mars, the type of rebelliousness or eccentricity would be somewhat driven by practicality. So, for an example, maybe there is a societal standard that you see as being inefficient, and so you have a different way of doing things, that you personally believe is more effective. Something like that. Or maybe health-oriented, since Virgo is associated with health matters. Maybe your views on health, diet, etc. are different from what people normally believe.
Uranus in Sagittarius means it could be differences in philosophy, religion, law. And maybe, in this case, Mars in Virgo would mean that you approach those subjects with a bit of practicality, while holding different views, once again.
I'm just giving some possibilities here. Since Uranus is the primary Planet for eccentricity, in this configuration, it's probably more likely to take on Sagittarius traits. While Mars changes your temperament and drive towards those beliefs.
House placements, and the Houses that Uranus rules in your Natal Chart, can also probably colour this aspect.
I'm not sure about the rest, and don't really have time to think it through. I don't spend a lot of time working with midpoints and semi-squares.
Mars, the planet of personal action and assertion, takes on a line of divergence when in hard aspect like this with Uranus. Most folks with this aspect act/work out of sync with what the group mind is doing and expecting. When they 'zig' you 'zag.' That can be true within your work, along the lines TheTruth explained, but it will likely be seen in all areas of your life if the aspect configuration is as tight as I believe you are saying it is.
Pluto adds in an urgency that implies you feel this is necessary for you to maintain your power. Whether you always express it outwardly or not, a little revolutionary lives inside you. You probably see mainstream ways and authorities as a challenge to your individuality and personal power.
If these energies are not applied proactively in a a reasonably healthy way, you may find yourself more on the reactionary side. These aspects can support individuality, but they are better thought of as urges to inventiveness and exploration.
Finding your birthdate, I can see that Jupiter in Aries is trine your Uranus, which is an excellent outlet for this. Think of exploration more as your outlet for these energies, that you can explore who you are within various cultural and sub-cultural settings.
------------------The Declinations GuyRising Sign Descriptions♈ ♉ ♊ ♋ ♌ ♍ ♎ ♏ ♐ ♑ ♒ ♓
quote:Originally posted by TheTruthIsTheWay11: House placements, and the Houses that Uranus rules in your Natal Chart, can also probably colour this aspect.
quote:Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:Most folks with this aspect act/work out of sync with what the group mind is doing and expecting. When they 'zig' you 'zag.'...You probably see mainstream ways and authorities as a challenge to your individuality and personal power.
I don't know why all a sudden its so uncontrollable, and I'm concerned that it might go too extreme, and ruin my social life forever lol
quote:Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:These aspects can support individuality, but they are better thought of as urges to inventiveness and exploration.
quote:Originally posted by Randall:Welcome!
Hello!
quote:Originally posted by Soulsjourney:My Aries Jupiter is 27°15'25 in house 12 and retrograde. I really like the idea of exploration and inventiveness too. I've been jumping around from travelling to back to studying, and now I want to go travelling again. But I feel the lack of support from society, and peers.
I get the lack of support, but I'd say the combined interest in study and travel point to this as a learning phase of self-discovery. Once you get a stronger feel for who you are and what you can do, you'll be far less inclined to pull away from society and more confident in asserting yourself within it.
Plus you have been experiencing Uranus's initial transit over your natal Jupiter and it is coming back after a retrograde period away from it. Get ready to pack your bags and choose your next adventure. Keep talking it up and you'll find a way. This transit (to April 2019) is for exploration and adventure. It will almost certainly involve a lucky break or an opportunity from out of the blue to allow it and to reward it. Just talk up your need to do this with those who are receptive -- maybe a student exchange program, etc. Resources for doing it will be tighter than you'd like, but keep looking for what options there may be for making it happen.
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