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T O P I C R E V I E WhearttreasureDo you know someone who is like that?What aspect? in what signs and houses? What dominant?What sun sign?I have known someone who has venus as a dominant and second dominant is pluto, has venus at home conjunct asc. Do you think venusian people don't like too much hardwork to get something?Orangeyesjust about everyone!girlwiththerainysoulLaziness is the lower side of Venushypatia238 quote:Originally posted by Orange:yesjust about everyone!Lol I was about to say, who doesnt? hearttreasure quote:Originally posted by Orange:yesjust about everyone!lol.What I meant was, well, I'll give you an example..Although I have exalted venus, my dominant sign is Jupiter and second is a mercury. But I do believe you need a hardwork to get the best out of what you want to get. There's a value and a beauty in the process to get what you want, what I want to say is, there's value and beauty in an effort = hard work.At work and in relationship I know I need an effort to maintain it so I don't get bored easily (since I have fire dominant and the easily bored moon sign), so I can keep going on patiently to achieve a better life, so I can avoid useless drama, and other reasons. I need an effort to keep the sparks alive to avoid bitterness/resentment in a relationship. Etc..But, when I met this person who has venus dominat and venus at home conjunct asc or venus in a 1st house, where the moon also in the 7th house, I have noticed this person always wants the easiest way to get something. I don't see effort in the actions. At best way may avoid the harder way. "If there's an easy way, why I need to try harder?", I get that feeling from this person since I've also watched the behavior is matched.A gold digger is a small example of someone who wants all the pleasure comes easy at his/her foot, doesn't it? (well, Gold digger is not the point of this topic, just popping out on my mind)DualGemV2Cancer males.Especially if they work in the government or any public service jobs. My Planets=========================================☉ ♊, ☽ ♈, ASC ♑, ☿ ♊, ♀ ♉, ♂ ♋ , ♃ ♒, ♄ ♏, ♅ ♐, ♆ ♑, ♇XzaultaXTaurus is known for being lazy, so maybe someone with a bunch of Taurus in their chart. I would guess Mars in Taurus.Aries23DegreesBy "easy" do you mean cutting corners? Or someone who attracts what they want to them?hearttreasure quote:Originally posted by DualGemV2:Cancer males.Especially if they work in the government or any public service jobs. I've seen it too!Some of the most corrupt people but hiding in their cute smile and innocent face. I work with some and know them very well in the job. hearttreasure quote:Originally posted by XzaultaX:Taurus is known for being lazy, so maybe someone with a bunch of Taurus in their chart. I would guess Mars in Taurus.I'm a little bit surprised that you mentioned the Mars in Taurus. Some people I know with this Mars may be lazy but they don't really act to go after the easiest way to get something. Some of people I know who have steady and honest hardworker, I mean, they really DO the job if they love it.But, all this people have Aries as the sun or the venus and some airy placement.What's yours Mars in Taurus other placement?hearttreasure quote:Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:By "easy" do you mean cutting corners? Or someone who attracts what they want to them?It can be.Someone who is taking the advantage or(for example in the job) someone who choose cutting corners method.waxlobsterOh I concur. Don't we all 'want' it easy, but we've been raised to value that which isn't. I'm not convinced that's human nature, rather the output of a commercial existence. I don't think early humans had time or, the luxury to experience depression. Then again the probably didn't have the perspicacity to create landscape gardens, art galleries and concert arenas either.Sure Venus and Jupiter can be overtly indulgent when in over-emphasised aspect, but actually the people I've met with these planets conjunct have been incredibly hardworking; lucky enough to have the Saturn/Capricorn emphasis, joyous enough to be spiritedly positive whilst focussed. Truth is circumstance and choice dictates a whole lot of the kind of materialistic and self oriented characteristics mentioned. Most Libra Moons I know are about giving and caring and accepting {this is why they're in my life of course} but Libra is in fact the sign which, in my opinion, is most potentially superficial. My Libra Rising + Uranus square Venus can be incredibly hedonistically selfish at times. I'm so grateful for the heavy Moon-Saturn which brings conscientiousness. In many ways the fire signs {in excess} are the most overtly and notably selfish {though not so much materialistic on a general basis}, but I wouldn't like to be stuck on a desert island without them!TaurusVenusGirl quote:Originally posted by XzaultaX:Taurus is known for being lazy, so maybe someone with a bunch of Taurus in their chart. I would guess Mars in Taurus.Hasnt Melania Trump got a whole heap of Taurus in her?moongazePeople with a Grand Trine of some sort, perhaps?9thScorpio quote:Originally posted by moongaze:People with a Grand Trine of some sort, perhaps?My thoughts exactly!------------------Sun in VirgoMoon in ScorpioVenus in ScorpioJupiter in ScorpioPluto in ScorpioMC in ScorpioNN in ScorpioASC in CapricornAries23Degrees quote:Originally posted by hearttreasure: It can be.Someone who is taking the advantage or(for example in the job) someone who choose cutting corners method.Gemini cuts corners. A lot lol.Leo doesn't like doing the actual "work" and will overstate what they do whilst they delegate the responsibility to some poor Virgo/Cap.I also agree that a chart that is void of squares will have someone want to look for easy ways out.DualGemV2 quote:Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: Gemini cuts corners. A lot lol.I think the perception of Gemini males always running away gives the impression we cut corners or try to get off easy. I know I've done that, but its not exactly the same..I once left my team 7 months before budget cuts came in and almost everyone was laid off. I don't see myself taking advantage..I was just a Junior at the time and easily saw that the "house in coming crashing down". Don't know why people higher ranked then me saw what was coming. If anything they would have been in a better position then me to collect severances. My Planets=========================================☉ ♊, ☽ ♈, ASC ♑, ☿ ♊,♀ ♉, ♂ ♋, ♃ ♒, ♄ ♏, ♅ ♐, ♆ ♑, ♇ ♏margym0o quote:Originally posted by moongaze:People with a Grand Trine of some sort, perhaps?YES! 100%.I would say more so than any one sign being responsible for laziness, I think a Grand Trine tops them all (maybe even a Kite too in some cases?).In all the charts I've seen where the person has a Grand Trine, no matter the element, there is some degree of laziness associated with their personality. It's because they take their "gift" for granted. Usually they tend to skate by and don't necessarily ever get in "trouble" for being lazy - somehow they always make it out unscathed. Some would call this extremely lucky!It isn't always lazy in the sense that they are messy people and won't clean up after themselves, but some part of their personality just lacks that inertia to ever achieve the next level or leap beyond their comfort zone. Sometimes it is just downright laziness in the most basic sense of the word, but again they usually manage to escape getting heat for it somehow.hearttreasure quote:Originally posted by TaurusVenusGirl: Hasnt Melania Trump got a whole heap of Taurus in her?But she has mars in Gemini. I don't think she is lazy, but probably she enjoys the pleasures of materials. hearttreasure quote:Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: Gemini cuts corners. A lot lol.Leo doesn't like doing the actual "work" and will overstate what they do whilst they delegate the responsibility to some poor Virgo/Cap.I also agree that a chart that is void of squares will have someone want to look for easy ways out.Yes. Gemini cuts corner a lot. But probably because they overthink the situation and get overwhelm by it and say, "f* it! I will look the easiest way!" The Leos man I know are a hardworking, but they have Cap/Virgo placement, but they sure like their "bosses" moment. A Leo woman I know will not hesitate to sleep with your man just to steal him from you. So I said goodbye to him. What about a lot of conjunction?
What aspect? in what signs and houses? What dominant?
What sun sign?
I have known someone who has venus as a dominant and second dominant is pluto, has venus at home conjunct asc. Do you think venusian people don't like too much hardwork to get something?
just about everyone!
quote:Originally posted by Orange:yesjust about everyone!
Lol I was about to say, who doesnt?
lol.
What I meant was, well, I'll give you an example..
Although I have exalted venus, my dominant sign is Jupiter and second is a mercury. But I do believe you need a hardwork to get the best out of what you want to get. There's a value and a beauty in the process to get what you want, what I want to say is, there's value and beauty in an effort = hard work.
At work and in relationship I know I need an effort to maintain it so I don't get bored easily (since I have fire dominant and the easily bored moon sign), so I can keep going on patiently to achieve a better life, so I can avoid useless drama, and other reasons. I need an effort to keep the sparks alive to avoid bitterness/resentment in a relationship. Etc..
But, when I met this person who has venus dominat and venus at home conjunct asc or venus in a 1st house, where the moon also in the 7th house, I have noticed this person always wants the easiest way to get something. I don't see effort in the actions. At best way may avoid the harder way. "If there's an easy way, why I need to try harder?", I get that feeling from this person since I've also watched the behavior is matched.
A gold digger is a small example of someone who wants all the pleasure comes easy at his/her foot, doesn't it? (well, Gold digger is not the point of this topic, just popping out on my mind)
Especially if they work in the government or any public service jobs.
My Planets=========================================☉ ♊, ☽ ♈, ASC ♑, ☿ ♊, ♀ ♉, ♂ ♋ , ♃ ♒, ♄ ♏, ♅ ♐, ♆ ♑, ♇
quote:Originally posted by DualGemV2:Cancer males.Especially if they work in the government or any public service jobs.
I've seen it too!
Some of the most corrupt people but hiding in their cute smile and innocent face.
I work with some and know them very well in the job.
quote:Originally posted by XzaultaX:Taurus is known for being lazy, so maybe someone with a bunch of Taurus in their chart. I would guess Mars in Taurus.
I'm a little bit surprised that you mentioned the Mars in Taurus. Some people I know with this Mars may be lazy but they don't really act to go after the easiest way to get something. Some of people I know who have steady and honest hardworker, I mean, they really DO the job if they love it.
But, all this people have Aries as the sun or the venus and some airy placement.
What's yours Mars in Taurus other placement?
quote:Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:By "easy" do you mean cutting corners? Or someone who attracts what they want to them?
It can be.
Someone who is taking the advantage or
(for example in the job) someone who choose cutting corners method.
I'm not convinced that's human nature, rather the output of a commercial existence. I don't think early humans had time or, the luxury to experience depression. Then again the probably didn't have the perspicacity to create landscape gardens, art galleries and concert arenas either.
Sure Venus and Jupiter can be overtly indulgent when in over-emphasised aspect, but actually the people I've met with these planets conjunct have been incredibly hardworking; lucky enough to have the Saturn/Capricorn emphasis, joyous enough to be spiritedly positive whilst focussed.
Truth is circumstance and choice dictates a whole lot of the kind of materialistic and self oriented characteristics mentioned. Most Libra Moons I know are about giving and caring and accepting {this is why they're in my life of course} but Libra is in fact the sign which, in my opinion, is most potentially superficial.
My Libra Rising + Uranus square Venus can be incredibly hedonistically selfish at times. I'm so grateful for the heavy Moon-Saturn which brings conscientiousness.
In many ways the fire signs {in excess} are the most overtly and notably selfish {though not so much materialistic on a general basis}, but I wouldn't like to be stuck on a desert island without them!
Hasnt Melania Trump got a whole heap of Taurus in her?
quote:Originally posted by moongaze:People with a Grand Trine of some sort, perhaps?
My thoughts exactly!
------------------Sun in VirgoMoon in ScorpioVenus in ScorpioJupiter in ScorpioPluto in ScorpioMC in ScorpioNN in ScorpioASC in Capricorn
quote:Originally posted by hearttreasure: It can be.Someone who is taking the advantage or(for example in the job) someone who choose cutting corners method.
Gemini cuts corners. A lot lol.
Leo doesn't like doing the actual "work" and will overstate what they do whilst they delegate the responsibility to some poor Virgo/Cap.
I also agree that a chart that is void of squares will have someone want to look for easy ways out.
quote:Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: Gemini cuts corners. A lot lol.
I think the perception of Gemini males always running away gives the impression we cut corners or try to get off easy.
I know I've done that, but its not exactly the same..I once left my team 7 months before budget cuts came in and almost everyone was laid off.
I don't see myself taking advantage..I was just a Junior at the time and easily saw that the "house in coming crashing down".
Don't know why people higher ranked then me saw what was coming. If anything they would have been in a better position then me to collect severances.
My Planets=========================================☉ ♊, ☽ ♈, ASC ♑, ☿ ♊,♀ ♉, ♂ ♋, ♃ ♒, ♄ ♏, ♅ ♐, ♆ ♑, ♇ ♏
YES! 100%.
I would say more so than any one sign being responsible for laziness, I think a Grand Trine tops them all (maybe even a Kite too in some cases?).
In all the charts I've seen where the person has a Grand Trine, no matter the element, there is some degree of laziness associated with their personality. It's because they take their "gift" for granted. Usually they tend to skate by and don't necessarily ever get in "trouble" for being lazy - somehow they always make it out unscathed. Some would call this extremely lucky!
It isn't always lazy in the sense that they are messy people and won't clean up after themselves, but some part of their personality just lacks that inertia to ever achieve the next level or leap beyond their comfort zone. Sometimes it is just downright laziness in the most basic sense of the word, but again they usually manage to escape getting heat for it somehow.
quote:Originally posted by TaurusVenusGirl: Hasnt Melania Trump got a whole heap of Taurus in her?
But she has mars in Gemini. I don't think she is lazy, but probably she enjoys the pleasures of materials.
quote:Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: Gemini cuts corners. A lot lol.Leo doesn't like doing the actual "work" and will overstate what they do whilst they delegate the responsibility to some poor Virgo/Cap.I also agree that a chart that is void of squares will have someone want to look for easy ways out.
Yes. Gemini cuts corner a lot. But probably because they overthink the situation and get overwhelm by it and say, "f* it! I will look the easiest way!"
The Leos man I know are a hardworking, but they have Cap/Virgo placement, but they sure like their "bosses" moment. A Leo woman I know will not hesitate to sleep with your man just to steal him from you. So I said goodbye to him.
What about a lot of conjunction?
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