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T O P I C R E V I E WareesquivelIs this the culprit on why he doesn't share his emotions? Even worst he acts like he has none, it takes a lot from me to get him to say "I'll miss you" and the "I love you" is always after I say it, anyone with this placement so I can understand better and know how to act? Aries23DegreesDated one.Moon-Saturn squareVenus-Uranus conjunctSun-Moon squareSun-Saturn conjunct.Can you say "brick wall"? Broke my heart. I don't think he could figure out what he wants because Venus-Uranus barred him from making any type of conventional love arrangement.My advice:look to actions rather than expression. Does he make an effort to make u feel special? Does he respond uncomfortably with you being close to him? Is he always laughing/smiling when with you?Contrary to popular belief-Saturn loves to smile and laugh. It relaxes them and they become different people as a result. Words don't come easy though...sorry.Mine also had Mercury in Scorpio conj Pluto. So i never knew what was going on in there. areesquivelHe's always laughing that's what I really love about him, his Venus opposes my Mars so I know I demand too much attention from him sometimes and he just won't have any... he's always asking how am I doing? If I'm ok so that's his way to show affection I guess, he has Sun conjunct Neptune in Sag, he always puts other people's needs before his, guy with a good heart as far as I know. He does responds sort of ok me being too close in public but public display of affection is definitely not his thing, he's completely different behind close door, don't know if that's his personality or something else but the laughing part is SO TRUE! guy always has a smile 😁SoulsjourneyI have moon-saturn conj in Sag. I'm girl tho. I have to say, this aspect make me intellectualize my feelings over really feeling them sometimes. And the emotion default mode is very Capricorn-y. And it takes a long time for me to warm up to someone, and sometimes I forget that I need to show emotion.areesquivel quote:Originally posted by Soulsjourney:I have moon-saturn conj in Sag. I'm girl tho. I have to say, this aspect make me intellectualize my feelings over really feeling them sometimes. And the emotion default mode is very Capricorn-y. And it takes a long time for me to warm up to someone, and sometimes I forget that I need to show emotion.That sounds like him, if someone is trying hard to get an emotional response from you, do you get mad at it? I do that with him and he end up actually saying for example "of course I'll miss you" but I feel he might feel annoyed by me, does that happen to you? cultstatusI'm currently in an on off thing with a man that has the Saturn moon conjunction in aqua.I'm an Aquarius and I still find it challenging.I would like to know - do people with this placement want you to express emotion toward them?I too am somewhat cold when I don't feel completely comfortable to share feelings so I've been holding back a lot.The other day he actually out of the blue said 'you know how you think I'm really unemotional/non expressive, you're like that too'.areesquivel quote:Originally posted by cultstatus:I'm currently in an on off thing with a man that has the Saturn moon conjunction in aqua.I'm an Aquarius and I still find it challenging.I would like to know - do people with this placement want you to express emotion toward them?I too am somewhat cold when I don't feel completely comfortable to share feelings so I've been holding back a lot.The other day he actually out of the blue said 'you know how you think I'm really unemotional/non expressive, you're like that too'.I think the best we can do is be ourselves, I do show emotions with him, too much in my case, I've cried so many times and even though I can tell he doesn't know what to do when I cry, he says he doesn't like to see me cry, as far as feelings I tend to hold back too sometimes or I feel I hold back with affections too, I want so bad to kiss him or hold hands with him in public and he doesn't like PDA though in private is a different story so that's confusing. hearttreasureWhat if it is a wide conjunction? Does the person still get the affect of the aspect?I am dealing with one (moon and saturn in the same sign, but wide) and I can relate how this placement can show you how awkward they are with emotions because this person will always be unsympathetic if I get emotional/cry. Like I'm starting questioning whether he is a psychopath or not. Hahaha. JK. I pet a turtle and one time my turtle was missing and I told him, almost in tears blaming myself how could I let it happened that I worried how my turtle could survive, I was panicking while kept searching all around the corners. He was just sitting there watching a TV and he didn't sympathize at all. He told me, it wasn't a big deal, the turtle probably had been eaten by wild cats and died that we could buy a new one if I wanted to (I remember looking at him like, 'how could you say that?' because I felt optimistic that I knew my turtle was still there but stucked somewhere). I still couldn't accept that my turtle was missing and kept checking the dark corners everyday. 5 days later, I heard some noises in my picnic box in the middle of the night and I found my turtle was IN the box. I was so happily cried while thinking my turtle possibly was dying hungry without the food or water in almost 6 days in the box. I quickly texted him that I had found my turtle after I put my turtle in the water and fed her/him (I still don't know the gender of my turtle ). I said to him, how my turtle could climb inside the box? and couldn't get out (if it could be climbed)? I was very happy that my turtle had finally found and still alive!. And his response was still unsympathetic/cold. lol.Thinking about that, I remember before my turtle was missing, we were in an argument/fight and broke up for days, prob more than a week. It was the first day we went back together and he came back to my house and my turtle was missing (found IN the box, which was the first time my turtle climbed the box to hide). Hmm.. 🤔Never mind.. Back to the question, could the wide conjunction between moon and saturn still be felt by the person?Aries23DegreesThe guy is d*** and animals can sense people who don't care for them the sane way we sense those people that don't like us.I dont think Moon-Saturn /Cap Moon is unsympathetic. But i do think that they dislike sentimentality. The unevolved ones can be downright mean to those who show feelings or are expressive.So for people who are emotional or very much in touch with their emotions i.e Aries Moon,Moon/Mars aspect people, Cancer Moon or even Moon/Jupiter or Sag Moon etc. The low evolved Saturn people can look at this lot as "drama queens".Otherwise there are others who find the above loveky to be around because they bring positive energy and warmth of spirit to interactions. And god knows Saturn folks could use thatMy question is: Does his Saturn aspect your Asc/ Moon/Sun or Venus by conjunction/square/opp even inconjunction?Often times in synastry, the individual may not have prominent Saturn aspects natally. But they could feel very "cold" to us when Saturn is on there.Moon in Gem could be annoying to some Cap Moons due to their incessant chatter. But other Cap Moons can be fascinated by their animated story telling.My father has Saturn on my Sun. I have never felt he empathized much with me. But at the same time,Mom has Saturn oppose my Moon and she empathizes a lot. So i guess its how one uses this energy that is importantvickymadness quote:Originally posted by areesquivel:Is this the culprit on why he doesn't share his emotions? Even worst he acts like he has none, it takes a lot from me to get him to say "I'll miss you" and the "I love you" is always after I say it, anyone with this placement so I can understand better and know how to act? hard moon-mercury aspects or hard moon-ASC aspects could also result in the lack of sharing emotions.I've seen these two aspects play in people I know personally. So check these two as well. hearttreasure quote:Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:My question is: Does his Saturn aspect your Asc/ Moon/Sun or Venus by conjunction/square/opp even inconjunction?- His saturn conjunct my mars in sag (I think I have saturn parallel mars natally),- conjunct my ASC (natally my saturn conjunct ASC),- square my venus,- trine my moon (I have moon trine saturn natally)Even if I cry after an overwhelming argument (yes, I hate to say that I tend to cry after an overwhelming argument with those small circle of people that I love because I really care about them and dislike the miscommunication), he can't deal with it, he either leaves the scene (aka run from problems) or be-littled me to the point it makes me look guilty for crying.I've read although the moon and the saturn in the same sign and make a wide conjunction, the saturn still can affect the moon. This person has moon in Sag and it's so strange that he can be a pessimistic and critical. Also he admits liking animals and pet some, but it turns out all of his pets are always died accidentally. I really hate to admit that he is so careless with animals but he likes them. He doesn't even show his emotions if the pets are dead. I have told him the proper way to nurture animals but he says he knows the best, if he knows best how all of the pets are dead? Ugh, I remember how our small bird was dead because I let him do what he thought was the best way, since then I don't trust him with animals at all. lol. Another day he wanted to pet an owl and I said, I didn't want to see dead animal again and I made him feel guilty by making him remember all of those dead animals. The only animal that I could save is the poor turtle.Seriously I think he is a psychopath. lol. jk 😂Aries23DegreesThat Saturn square Venus ...ouch.Its hard to get these guys I know. As a Cancer Moon myself, we often are intertwined in some way.His detachment from Animals could be because many have died under his care and so he doesn't want to attach too much-incase it happens again.I remember when my dog bit me. I was so hurt and angry by his actions that i just "iced" him out. And I have Saturn Moon/Venus trine/conjunct natally. And so i wonder if that could also be Saturns response to a perceived rejection?Maybe they are so sensitive internally that they build high walls to self protect? And after some time they start to have fewer and fewer people try. Until eventually none.I always think its a defense mechanism that you should not personalize too much. They can act in a manner that blocks people from connecting so as to self preserve.But keep on with that warmth and care. They may roll their eyes at it. But it hits the spot. After some time you will see it too when its reciprocated.For now...you have to live with the walls of Jericho areesquivel quote:Originally posted by hearttreasure:What if it is a wide conjunction? Does the person still get the affect of the aspect?I am dealing with one (moon and saturn in the same sign, but wide) and I can relate how this placement can show you how awkward they are with emotions because this person will always be unsympathetic if I get emotional/cry. Like I'm starting questioning whether he is a psychopath or not. Hahaha. JK. I pet a turtle and one time my turtle was missing and I told him, almost in tears blaming myself how could I let it happened that I worried how my turtle could survive, I was panicking while kept searching all around the corners. He was just sitting there watching a TV and he didn't sympathize at all. He told me, it wasn't a big deal, the turtle probably had been eaten by wild cats and died that we could buy a new one if I wanted to (I remember looking at him like, 'how could you say that?' because I felt optimistic that I knew my turtle was still there but stucked somewhere). I still couldn't accept that my turtle was missing and kept checking the dark corners everyday. 5 days later, I heard some noises in my picnic box in the middle of the night and I found my turtle was IN the box. I was so happily cried while thinking my turtle possibly was dying hungry without the food or water in almost 6 days in the box. I quickly texted him that I had found my turtle after I put my turtle in the water and fed her/him (I still don't know the gender of my turtle ). I said to him, how my turtle could climb inside the box? and couldn't get out (if it could be climbed)? I was very happy that my turtle had finally found and still alive!. And his response was still unsympathetic/cold. lol.Thinking about that, I remember before my turtle was missing, we were in an argument/fight and broke up for days, prob more than a week. It was the first day we went back together and he came back to my house and my turtle was missing (found IN the box, which was the first time my turtle climbed the box to hide). Hmm.. 🤔Never mind.. Back to the question, could the wide conjunction between moon and saturn still be felt by the person?I believe so, my guy has the conjunction by 3 degrees, enough for me to actually notice how cold he can be at times. Ami AnneHe may be super critical of his own emotions. His mother may have shut him down. I would say that he can't help being this way.------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/areesquivel quote:Originally posted by Ami Anne:He may be super critical of his own emotions. His mother may have shut him down. I would say that he can't help being this way.I believe so! And the mother part I feel both parents are like that cause he said one time he doesn't say much to his parents cause he feels they think he's stupid, he's the one brother his parents scold even though he's 35.areesquivel quote:Originally posted by Ami Anne:He may be super critical of his own emotions. His mother may have shut him down. I would say that he can't help being this way.I believe so! And the mother part I feel both parents are like that cause he said one time he doesn't say much to his parents cause he feels they think he's stupid, he's the one brother his parents scold even though he's 35.
Moon-Saturn squareVenus-Uranus conjunctSun-Moon squareSun-Saturn conjunct.
Can you say "brick wall"? Broke my heart. I don't think he could figure out what he wants because Venus-Uranus barred him from making any type of conventional love arrangement.
My advice:look to actions rather than expression. Does he make an effort to make u feel special? Does he respond uncomfortably with you being close to him? Is he always laughing/smiling when with you?
Contrary to popular belief-Saturn loves to smile and laugh. It relaxes them and they become different people as a result. Words don't come easy though...sorry.
Mine also had Mercury in Scorpio conj Pluto. So i never knew what was going on in there.
He does responds sort of ok me being too close in public but public display of affection is definitely not his thing, he's completely different behind close door, don't know if that's his personality or something else but the laughing part is SO TRUE! guy always has a smile 😁
quote:Originally posted by Soulsjourney:I have moon-saturn conj in Sag. I'm girl tho. I have to say, this aspect make me intellectualize my feelings over really feeling them sometimes. And the emotion default mode is very Capricorn-y. And it takes a long time for me to warm up to someone, and sometimes I forget that I need to show emotion.
That sounds like him, if someone is trying hard to get an emotional response from you, do you get mad at it? I do that with him and he end up actually saying for example "of course I'll miss you" but I feel he might feel annoyed by me, does that happen to you?
I would like to know - do people with this placement want you to express emotion toward them?
I too am somewhat cold when I don't feel completely comfortable to share feelings so I've been holding back a lot.
The other day he actually out of the blue said 'you know how you think I'm really unemotional/non expressive, you're like that too'.
quote:Originally posted by cultstatus:I'm currently in an on off thing with a man that has the Saturn moon conjunction in aqua.I'm an Aquarius and I still find it challenging.I would like to know - do people with this placement want you to express emotion toward them?I too am somewhat cold when I don't feel completely comfortable to share feelings so I've been holding back a lot.The other day he actually out of the blue said 'you know how you think I'm really unemotional/non expressive, you're like that too'.
I think the best we can do is be ourselves, I do show emotions with him, too much in my case, I've cried so many times and even though I can tell he doesn't know what to do when I cry, he says he doesn't like to see me cry, as far as feelings I tend to hold back too sometimes or I feel I hold back with affections too, I want so bad to kiss him or hold hands with him in public and he doesn't like PDA though in private is a different story so that's confusing.
I am dealing with one (moon and saturn in the same sign, but wide) and I can relate how this placement can show you how awkward they are with emotions because this person will always be unsympathetic if I get emotional/cry. Like I'm starting questioning whether he is a psychopath or not. Hahaha. JK.
I pet a turtle and one time my turtle was missing and I told him, almost in tears blaming myself how could I let it happened that I worried how my turtle could survive, I was panicking while kept searching all around the corners. He was just sitting there watching a TV and he didn't sympathize at all. He told me, it wasn't a big deal, the turtle probably had been eaten by wild cats and died that we could buy a new one if I wanted to (I remember looking at him like, 'how could you say that?' because I felt optimistic that I knew my turtle was still there but stucked somewhere). I still couldn't accept that my turtle was missing and kept checking the dark corners everyday. 5 days later, I heard some noises in my picnic box in the middle of the night and I found my turtle was IN the box. I was so happily cried while thinking my turtle possibly was dying hungry without the food or water in almost 6 days in the box. I quickly texted him that I had found my turtle after I put my turtle in the water and fed her/him (I still don't know the gender of my turtle ). I said to him, how my turtle could climb inside the box? and couldn't get out (if it could be climbed)? I was very happy that my turtle had finally found and still alive!. And his response was still unsympathetic/cold. lol.
Thinking about that, I remember before my turtle was missing, we were in an argument/fight and broke up for days, prob more than a week. It was the first day we went back together and he came back to my house and my turtle was missing (found IN the box, which was the first time my turtle climbed the box to hide). Hmm.. 🤔
Never mind.. Back to the question, could the wide conjunction between moon and saturn still be felt by the person?
I dont think Moon-Saturn /Cap Moon is unsympathetic. But i do think that they dislike sentimentality. The unevolved ones can be downright mean to those who show feelings or are expressive.
So for people who are emotional or very much in touch with their emotions i.e Aries Moon,Moon/Mars aspect people, Cancer Moon or even Moon/Jupiter or Sag Moon etc. The low evolved Saturn people can look at this lot as "drama queens".
Otherwise there are others who find the above loveky to be around because they bring positive energy and warmth of spirit to interactions. And god knows Saturn folks could use that
My question is: Does his Saturn aspect your Asc/ Moon/Sun or Venus by conjunction/square/opp even inconjunction?
Often times in synastry, the individual may not have prominent Saturn aspects natally. But they could feel very "cold" to us when Saturn is on there.
Moon in Gem could be annoying to some Cap Moons due to their incessant chatter. But other Cap Moons can be fascinated by their animated story telling.
My father has Saturn on my Sun. I have never felt he empathized much with me. But at the same time,Mom has Saturn oppose my Moon and she empathizes a lot.
So i guess its how one uses this energy that is important
quote:Originally posted by areesquivel:Is this the culprit on why he doesn't share his emotions? Even worst he acts like he has none, it takes a lot from me to get him to say "I'll miss you" and the "I love you" is always after I say it, anyone with this placement so I can understand better and know how to act?
hard moon-mercury aspects or hard moon-ASC aspects could also result in the lack of sharing emotions.I've seen these two aspects play in people I know personally. So check these two as well.
quote:Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:My question is: Does his Saturn aspect your Asc/ Moon/Sun or Venus by conjunction/square/opp even inconjunction?
- His saturn conjunct my mars in sag (I think I have saturn parallel mars natally),- conjunct my ASC (natally my saturn conjunct ASC),- square my venus,- trine my moon (I have moon trine saturn natally)
Even if I cry after an overwhelming argument (yes, I hate to say that I tend to cry after an overwhelming argument with those small circle of people that I love because I really care about them and dislike the miscommunication), he can't deal with it, he either leaves the scene (aka run from problems) or be-littled me to the point it makes me look guilty for crying.
I've read although the moon and the saturn in the same sign and make a wide conjunction, the saturn still can affect the moon. This person has moon in Sag and it's so strange that he can be a pessimistic and critical. Also he admits liking animals and pet some, but it turns out all of his pets are always died accidentally. I really hate to admit that he is so careless with animals but he likes them. He doesn't even show his emotions if the pets are dead. I have told him the proper way to nurture animals but he says he knows the best, if he knows best how all of the pets are dead? Ugh, I remember how our small bird was dead because I let him do what he thought was the best way, since then I don't trust him with animals at all. lol. Another day he wanted to pet an owl and I said, I didn't want to see dead animal again and I made him feel guilty by making him remember all of those dead animals. The only animal that I could save is the poor turtle.
Seriously I think he is a psychopath. lol. jk 😂
Its hard to get these guys I know. As a Cancer Moon myself, we often are intertwined in some way.
His detachment from Animals could be because many have died under his care and so he doesn't want to attach too much-incase it happens again.
I remember when my dog bit me. I was so hurt and angry by his actions that i just "iced" him out. And I have Saturn Moon/Venus trine/conjunct natally. And so i wonder if that could also be Saturns response to a perceived rejection?
Maybe they are so sensitive internally that they build high walls to self protect? And after some time they start to have fewer and fewer people try. Until eventually none.
I always think its a defense mechanism that you should not personalize too much. They can act in a manner that blocks people from connecting so as to self preserve.
But keep on with that warmth and care. They may roll their eyes at it. But it hits the spot. After some time you will see it too when its reciprocated.
For now...you have to live with the walls of Jericho
quote:Originally posted by hearttreasure:What if it is a wide conjunction? Does the person still get the affect of the aspect?I am dealing with one (moon and saturn in the same sign, but wide) and I can relate how this placement can show you how awkward they are with emotions because this person will always be unsympathetic if I get emotional/cry. Like I'm starting questioning whether he is a psychopath or not. Hahaha. JK. I pet a turtle and one time my turtle was missing and I told him, almost in tears blaming myself how could I let it happened that I worried how my turtle could survive, I was panicking while kept searching all around the corners. He was just sitting there watching a TV and he didn't sympathize at all. He told me, it wasn't a big deal, the turtle probably had been eaten by wild cats and died that we could buy a new one if I wanted to (I remember looking at him like, 'how could you say that?' because I felt optimistic that I knew my turtle was still there but stucked somewhere). I still couldn't accept that my turtle was missing and kept checking the dark corners everyday. 5 days later, I heard some noises in my picnic box in the middle of the night and I found my turtle was IN the box. I was so happily cried while thinking my turtle possibly was dying hungry without the food or water in almost 6 days in the box. I quickly texted him that I had found my turtle after I put my turtle in the water and fed her/him (I still don't know the gender of my turtle ). I said to him, how my turtle could climb inside the box? and couldn't get out (if it could be climbed)? I was very happy that my turtle had finally found and still alive!. And his response was still unsympathetic/cold. lol.Thinking about that, I remember before my turtle was missing, we were in an argument/fight and broke up for days, prob more than a week. It was the first day we went back together and he came back to my house and my turtle was missing (found IN the box, which was the first time my turtle climbed the box to hide). Hmm.. 🤔Never mind.. Back to the question, could the wide conjunction between moon and saturn still be felt by the person?
I believe so, my guy has the conjunction by 3 degrees, enough for me to actually notice how cold he can be at times.
------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE.
http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
quote:Originally posted by Ami Anne:He may be super critical of his own emotions. His mother may have shut him down. I would say that he can't help being this way.
I believe so! And the mother part I feel both parents are like that cause he said one time he doesn't say much to his parents cause he feels they think he's stupid, he's the one brother his parents scold even though he's 35.
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