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T O P I C R E V I E WFrench GirlHello everyone, I hope this is the right place to ask this, I'm sorry if it's not ! I have read many things about unaspected moon in natal but I still don't understand if it's something good or bad because I have read both (I know nothing is good or bad in astrology, I just don't know how else to say that, I guess I'm asking if it's more positive or negative ?) ... The only thing I understand is that it means that the person with the unaspected moon is out of touch with their emotions but then, how much worse would it be if the unaspected moon is in Aquarius ? And what else does it mean ?How can people with unaspected moons get in touch with their emotions ? How can they handle the unaspected moon ? How can they develop it ?Thank you for answering, I'm quite confused about that ..mairaHi! I have an unaspected moon also, and in my experience, people can stimulate it, acting as permanent transits - if there is someone with an aquarius placement at the same degree or close to your moon, it will stimulate it. Transits also stimulate it, as do progressions. Another way is to cultivate activities that nurture your moon; for moon in aqua it would be anything humanistic, futuristic, internet etc.; going to protests and rallies comes to mind. It's not good, nor bad - it is what it is. There are worse placements that come to mind maira https://exemplore.com/astrology/Aquarius-Moon-Able-Affable-Autonomous Ami AnneThe Unaspected Moon people were not nurtured as children. They were not mothered. However, they are, usually, amazing people who give a great deal to those around them, so this is a blessing to other people but hard for the native and Welcome ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/MagikaalAmi is correct - matches my experience exactly re having a cold distant mother (I have 'unaspected' Aquarius moon in 4th). Aquarius moon by its nature is in air, is more detached than emotional. I think it would be a more difficult placement if the unaspected moon was in a watery sign somehow, you can sort of reason with Aquarius (being an air sign).Edit: I have to say my Moon is not totally unaspected, it is 2 degrees away from the IC. Haven't checked for minor aspects, and it's not close in the declinations to any major planets. Kannon McAfeeFrench Girl, click here to read my article on the topic of The Unaspected Planet. Declinations contain major aspects as well (parallels and contra-parallels). See if your chart has them with the Moon.------------------The Declinations Guy - Expert birth chart rectificationClickable Rising Signs> ♈ ♉ ♊ ♋ ♌ ♍ ♎ ♏ ♐ ♑ ♒ ♓MagikaalInteresting article Kannon. What orb do you use for aspects in declinations? (not sure if orb is the right word, I mean degrees apart...)Also, reading your article re Martin Luther King's chart, Venus trine Pluto has orb 6.5 degrees. How wide an orb can we use for major planet aspects? (I guess it really depends how big one's orbs are). Because in that case my moon then has a quincunx aspect to Jupiter but 5 degrees apart which I thought was too wide. French Girl@Maira You're very right, I have felt my Moon being activated through transits and synastry, and I did assist to many protests last year so I guess you're pretty right about all that ! (Thank you for reminding me of that ^^)@Ami AnneThanks for the welcome ! I don't know if I wasn't nurtured during my childhood ... My childhood is very blurry for me, I know it was hard at times because I didn't have friends and wasn't very liked but I don't think I felt that my mom was detached, I mean, we've never been very affectionate to each other but that's because I didn't try to be ... Also, I wish I were that amazing person who gives a lot like you say but I feel very egoistical so .. Not sure about that part ..@Magikaal Thank you very much for your answer, I thought it made it worse to have an Aquarius Moon Unaspected because it made me even more detached but I guess you're right, it might actually be worse to have that with a Water Moon ! @Kannon McAfeeI just checked and I don't have declinations with my Moon and other planets and although I have some minor aspects, I have always read that it wasn't really important ? Thank you all for your answers ! Ami AnneM, the IC would not count when it came to Unaspected Planets, my Friend.------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/MagikaalThanks Ami. I only came across this concept of unaspected planets recently so I don't pay a huge amount of attention to it. But what you said really matches my childhood experience exactly. French Girl, I somehow feel that one would have to look at the whole chart to get a picture. Like, I don't feel too bad about the Aquarius moon once I've left childhood. Sometimes I feel my air planets help me deal with trauma, by reasoning out things and not taking them to heart. That's why I said it might be better to have the moon in air (not trying to bash water moons here, by any means).With my example, I have Libra Sun and Aquarius Moon but my rising sign is Scorpio, I have Venus and Mercury in Scorpio and I have no trouble accessing emotions. It's a bit hard to explain, I'm quite nerdy and I have the intellectual side which most people see first, but lots of emotions underneath. If that makes sense. Do you journal? You can try journaling about your emotions, if you feel like you are out of touch. After an abusive childhood and repressing lots of emotions I feel like it's a good thing for me to do, I wonder if you might like to do that as well. I'm assuming it's your moon that you're talking about.Ami AnneYW MI am an Unaspected Venus, so got interested in Unaspected planets.------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/Magikaal@Ami - how does your unaspected Venus manifest in your life?French GirlMagikaal, I agree with you, I like having an Aquarius Moon cause I feel I can detach myself from my feelings, which seems to be considered bad but it actually helps me a lot so I don't know what's so wrong about that .. Also, I'm a Cap sun with a Virgo rising so I guess people would consider me cold and detached anyway. I have tried journaling but I never keep up with it, I prefer talking with my Air Moon friends, it makes me feel better.(I have an example from last night actually, I was feeling extremely down about myself, very insecure and I kinda felt like giving up on some things and I talked about it with my Libra Moon friend who felt exactly the same and we talked about it for hours and when we were done, we both realized we were feeling better, so yeah, intellectualizing feelings after feeling them is actually nice)Kannon McAfee quote:Originally posted by Magikaal:Interesting article Kannon. What orb do you use for aspects in declinations? (not sure if orb is the right word, I mean degrees apart...)1-1.5°, and up to about 2° between Sun & Moon. quote:Also, reading your article re Martin Luther King's chart, Venus trine Pluto has orb 6.5 degrees. How wide an orb can we use for major planet aspects? (I guess it really depends how big one's orbs are). Venus-Pluto, around 7°. quote:Because in that case my moon then has a quincunx aspect to Jupiter but 5 degrees apart which I thought was too wide. Quincunxes get no more than 3-3.5° orb. 150 minus 3.5° = 146.5°, which is close to stepping into biquintile/144° territory. 150 plus 3.5° = 153.5°, which is over into tri-septile/154° territory. ------------------The Declinations Guy - Expert birth chart rectificationClickable Rising Signs> ♈ ♉ ♊ ♋ ♌ ♍ ♎ ♏ ♐ ♑ ♒ ♓Kannon McAfee quote:Originally posted by French Girl:@Kannon McAfeeI just checked and I don't have declinations with my Moon and other planets and although I have some minor aspects, I have always read that it wasn't really important ? All aspects matter. Those energies can be used and expanded upon. ------------------The Declinations Guy - Expert birth chart rectificationClickable Rising Signs> ♈ ♉ ♊ ♋ ♌ ♍ ♎ ♏ ♐ ♑ ♒ ♓lalalindaHello French Girl! Welcome to LL ------------------"To be interesting, be interested"....Dale CarnegieAmi Anne quote:Originally posted by Magikaal:@Ami - how does your unaspected Venus manifest in your life?I have an understanding of social situations/social graces/manners. I feel weird saying this like I am bragging. One'a placements can be gifts or struggles. Most Unaspected planets are gifts, except Mars, which can be an explosive temper lol------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/maira quote:Originally posted by French Girl: my childhood is very blurry for me, I know it was hard at times because I didn't have friends and wasn't very liked but I don't think I felt that my mom was detached, I mean, we've never been very affectionate to each other but that's because I didn't try to be ... Also, I wish I were that amazing person who gives a lot like you say but I feel very egoistical so .. Not sure about that part .. I have read over and over again in many books that it doesn't really matter what happened to someone in childhood (the extent of the trauma), if that person can tell their story in a coherent manner. I think that this is the point of journaling/ going to therapy/ simply telling your story to a friend or even posting it on the internet. Your "blurry" comment made me think of this - to me - important idea that I've encountered over time.Kannon McAfeeSo let's look at this notion of unaspected Moon = not nurtured. Put yourself in the place of the mother who is taking her newborn child to an astrologer. Does the astrologer offer this interpretation to her, that her child will not be nurtured by her?I hope not, as it amounts to a prediction aimed primarily at the behavior of a person other than the native. Yes, the mother is important and relates to Moon, but the aspects and features of the child's birth chart are the story of that soul's pattern of relating, bonding, etc.No person is born to not be nurtured. Quite the contrary, our purposefulness in coming into life is to express the Divine quality of Love through bonding, sharing, growing together. A birth chart is a starting place determined by the soul, colored by its chooser's previous experiences (incarnations) and what that soul brings into human life. What they do with it, and how the mother responds to the child, is a matter first of free will, secondly of astrological tendency. A useful astrological reading informs the free will of the person(s) in the direction of Love..------------------Soul Stars Astrology - by the declinations guyClickable Rising Signs> ♈ ♉ ♊ ♋ ♌ ♍ ♎ ♏ ♐ ♑ ♒ ♓zirr1I have unaspected moon in Scorpio , unsure what this means
I have read many things about unaspected moon in natal but I still don't understand if it's something good or bad because I have read both (I know nothing is good or bad in astrology, I just don't know how else to say that, I guess I'm asking if it's more positive or negative ?) ...
The only thing I understand is that it means that the person with the unaspected moon is out of touch with their emotions but then, how much worse would it be if the unaspected moon is in Aquarius ? And what else does it mean ?
How can people with unaspected moons get in touch with their emotions ? How can they handle the unaspected moon ? How can they develop it ?
Thank you for answering, I'm quite confused about that ..
It's not good, nor bad - it is what it is. There are worse placements that come to mind
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Edit: I have to say my Moon is not totally unaspected, it is 2 degrees away from the IC. Haven't checked for minor aspects, and it's not close in the declinations to any major planets.
------------------The Declinations Guy - Expert birth chart rectificationClickable Rising Signs> ♈ ♉ ♊ ♋ ♌ ♍ ♎ ♏ ♐ ♑ ♒ ♓
Also, reading your article re Martin Luther King's chart, Venus trine Pluto has orb 6.5 degrees. How wide an orb can we use for major planet aspects? (I guess it really depends how big one's orbs are).
Because in that case my moon then has a quincunx aspect to Jupiter but 5 degrees apart which I thought was too wide.
You're very right, I have felt my Moon being activated through transits and synastry, and I did assist to many protests last year so I guess you're pretty right about all that ! (Thank you for reminding me of that ^^)
@Ami Anne
Thanks for the welcome ! I don't know if I wasn't nurtured during my childhood ... My childhood is very blurry for me, I know it was hard at times because I didn't have friends and wasn't very liked but I don't think I felt that my mom was detached, I mean, we've never been very affectionate to each other but that's because I didn't try to be ... Also, I wish I were that amazing person who gives a lot like you say but I feel very egoistical so .. Not sure about that part ..
@Magikaal
Thank you very much for your answer, I thought it made it worse to have an Aquarius Moon Unaspected because it made me even more detached but I guess you're right, it might actually be worse to have that with a Water Moon !
@Kannon McAfee
I just checked and I don't have declinations with my Moon and other planets and although I have some minor aspects, I have always read that it wasn't really important ?
Thank you all for your answers !
French Girl, I somehow feel that one would have to look at the whole chart to get a picture. Like, I don't feel too bad about the Aquarius moon once I've left childhood. Sometimes I feel my air planets help me deal with trauma, by reasoning out things and not taking them to heart. That's why I said it might be better to have the moon in air (not trying to bash water moons here, by any means).
With my example, I have Libra Sun and Aquarius Moon but my rising sign is Scorpio, I have Venus and Mercury in Scorpio and I have no trouble accessing emotions. It's a bit hard to explain, I'm quite nerdy and I have the intellectual side which most people see first, but lots of emotions underneath. If that makes sense.
Do you journal? You can try journaling about your emotions, if you feel like you are out of touch. After an abusive childhood and repressing lots of emotions I feel like it's a good thing for me to do, I wonder if you might like to do that as well. I'm assuming it's your moon that you're talking about.
I have tried journaling but I never keep up with it, I prefer talking with my Air Moon friends, it makes me feel better.
(I have an example from last night actually, I was feeling extremely down about myself, very insecure and I kinda felt like giving up on some things and I talked about it with my Libra Moon friend who felt exactly the same and we talked about it for hours and when we were done, we both realized we were feeling better, so yeah, intellectualizing feelings after feeling them is actually nice)
quote:Originally posted by Magikaal:Interesting article Kannon. What orb do you use for aspects in declinations? (not sure if orb is the right word, I mean degrees apart...)
1-1.5°, and up to about 2° between Sun & Moon.
quote:Also, reading your article re Martin Luther King's chart, Venus trine Pluto has orb 6.5 degrees. How wide an orb can we use for major planet aspects? (I guess it really depends how big one's orbs are).
Venus-Pluto, around 7°.
quote:Because in that case my moon then has a quincunx aspect to Jupiter but 5 degrees apart which I thought was too wide.
Quincunxes get no more than 3-3.5° orb. 150 minus 3.5° = 146.5°, which is close to stepping into biquintile/144° territory. 150 plus 3.5° = 153.5°, which is over into tri-septile/154° territory.
quote:Originally posted by French Girl:@Kannon McAfeeI just checked and I don't have declinations with my Moon and other planets and although I have some minor aspects, I have always read that it wasn't really important ?
All aspects matter. Those energies can be used and expanded upon.
------------------"To be interesting, be interested"....Dale Carnegie
quote:Originally posted by Magikaal:@Ami - how does your unaspected Venus manifest in your life?
I have an understanding of social situations/social graces/manners. I feel weird saying this like I am bragging. One'a placements can be gifts or struggles. Most Unaspected planets are gifts, except Mars, which can be an explosive temper lol
quote:Originally posted by French Girl: my childhood is very blurry for me, I know it was hard at times because I didn't have friends and wasn't very liked but I don't think I felt that my mom was detached, I mean, we've never been very affectionate to each other but that's because I didn't try to be ... Also, I wish I were that amazing person who gives a lot like you say but I feel very egoistical so .. Not sure about that part ..
I have read over and over again in many books that it doesn't really matter what happened to someone in childhood (the extent of the trauma), if that person can tell their story in a coherent manner. I think that this is the point of journaling/ going to therapy/ simply telling your story to a friend or even posting it on the internet. Your "blurry" comment made me think of this - to me - important idea that I've encountered over time.
I hope not, as it amounts to a prediction aimed primarily at the behavior of a person other than the native. Yes, the mother is important and relates to Moon, but the aspects and features of the child's birth chart are the story of that soul's pattern of relating, bonding, etc.
No person is born to not be nurtured. Quite the contrary, our purposefulness in coming into life is to express the Divine quality of Love through bonding, sharing, growing together.
A birth chart is a starting place determined by the soul, colored by its chooser's previous experiences (incarnations) and what that soul brings into human life. What they do with it, and how the mother responds to the child, is a matter first of free will, secondly of astrological tendency. A useful astrological reading informs the free will of the person(s) in the direction of Love..
------------------Soul Stars Astrology - by the declinations guyClickable Rising Signs> ♈ ♉ ♊ ♋ ♌ ♍ ♎ ♏ ♐ ♑ ♒ ♓
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