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T O P I C R E V I E WathenegoddessSun Moon = NeutralMoon Mercury = BadMoon Venus = Neutral or GoodMoon Mars = BadVenus Saturn = Neutral or BadVenus Jupiter = GoodVenus Neptune = GoodAll Mars conjunctions are BadAll Uranus conjunctions are BadAll Pluto conjunctions are BadAll Neptune conjunctions are GoodAll Saturn conjunctions are neutralMercury Venus = Good Sun Venus = GoodSun Jupiter = GoodSun Mercury = GoodSun Mars = BadVenus Mars = GoodThe sign the conjunctions are in matter as well and makes a substantial difference in energy. For example Venus conjunct Saturn in Aries is very bad. But Venus conjunct Saturn in Libra is neutral. RandallBump!Dumuziif all mars conjunctions are bad and all neptune conjunctions are good and i have mars-neptune... 🤔 does that just become neutral? VeronicaNicole quote:Originally posted by Dumuzi:if all mars conjunctions are bad and all neptune conjunctions are good and i have mars-neptune... 🤔 does that just become neutral? Woah there now! That's some dangerous thinkin' Dumuzi quote:Originally posted by VeronicaNicole: Woah there now! That's some dangerous thinkin' lolathenegoddessI would say it is neutral. Mars Neptune leads more towards the dreamy side though and makes you access higher dimensions. Dumuzi quote:Originally posted by athenegoddess:I would say it is neutral. Mars Neptune leads more towards the dreamy side though and makes you access higher dimensions. guess i thought right then 😁 though i kind of feel like my neptune messes with my cap mars pretty badit's a loose conjunction but it's the only aspect in my chart that explains why my cap mars doesn't function as it shouldRandallBump!MonteCristo quote:Originally posted by athenegoddess:Sun Moon = NeutralMoon Mercury = BadMoon Venus = Neutral or GoodMoon Mars = BadVenus Saturn = Neutral or BadVenus Jupiter = GoodVenus Neptune = GoodAll Mars conjunctions are BadAll Uranus conjunctions are BadAll Pluto conjunctions are BadAll Neptune conjunctions are GoodAll Saturn conjunctions are neutralMercury Venus = Good Sun Venus = GoodSun Jupiter = GoodSun Mercury = GoodSun Mars = BadVenus Mars = GoodThe sign the conjunctions are in matter as well and makes a substantial difference in energy. For example Venus conjunct Saturn in Aries is very bad. But Venus conjunct Saturn in Libra is neutral. Does this apply to synastry/composite, too?dragonflies quote:Originally posted by athenegoddess:Sun Moon = NeutralMoon Mercury = BadMoon Venus = Neutral or GoodMoon Mars = BadVenus Saturn = Neutral or BadVenus Jupiter = GoodVenus Neptune = GoodAll Mars conjunctions are BadAll Uranus conjunctions are BadAll Pluto conjunctions are BadAll Neptune conjunctions are GoodAll Saturn conjunctions are neutralMercury Venus = Good Sun Venus = GoodSun Jupiter = GoodSun Mercury = GoodSun Mars = BadVenus Mars = GoodThe sign the conjunctions are in matter as well and makes a substantial difference in energy. For example Venus conjunct Saturn in Aries is very bad. But Venus conjunct Saturn in Libra is neutral. I don't know: how serious are you here? I'm not an expert, but I run into this sort of thinking here and there and when Vedic astrology pops up in my YT feed or something I see words like "benefics"/"malefics" and I think to myself: this person is not ready to be an astrologer and should shut their trap. I am not critising Vedic or any other form of astrology, I don't know anything about it per se, I can only speak from my gut reaction and say: this kind of thinking leads nowhere, labels people without any use and makes people feel bad for no reason. It's basically calling people names.Dumuzi quote:Originally posted by dragonflies: I don't know: how serious are you here? I'm not an expert, but I run into this sort of thinking here and there and when Vedic astrology pops up in my YT feed or something I see words like "benefics"/"malefics" and I think to myself: this person is not ready to be an astrologer and should shut their trap. I am not critising Vedic or any other form of astrology, I don't know anything about it per se, I can only speak from my gut reaction and say: this kind of thinking leads nowhere, labels people without any use and makes people feel bad for no reason. It's basically calling people names.vedic astrology benefics and malefics are used largely for life events and to explain the ways a planet functions in a person's chartit's not a person being ignorant about astrology at all to mention them, or not ready for astrology it's just part of the system and how it worksit also extends beyond astrology and is tied to the symbology of many of these planets, some **** does have a bad effect and the need to sugarcoat is more of an issuemirage29oh gosh... I know how it is currently considered very elite, Popular, and "trendy" for some to use the phrase that describes the source of where it is that they 'process' their 'information'. However, ... when you stop and think about that 'image', and realize what everyone's "gut" is filled-with?, then, they might reconsider the use of that word! *~Thanks for sharing, Athene. Interesting consideration. athenegoddess quote:Originally posted by MonteCristo: Does this apply to synastry/composite, too?Yes somewhat.dragonflies quote:Originally posted by Dumuzi: vedic astrology benefics and malefics are used largely for life events and to explain the ways a planet functions in a person's chartit's not a person being ignorant about astrology at all to mention them, or not ready for astrology it's just part of the system and how it worksit also extends beyond astrology and is tied to the symbology of many of these planets, some **** does have a bad effect and the need to sugarcoat is more of an issueI didn't say the astrologer was ignorant about astrology, but about human nature. I am saying they are unsympathetic. Giving something the label of "bad" does nothing to make it easier to go deeper and understand more. It's not about sugarcoating, but having an open mind.dragonflies quote:Originally posted by mirage29:oh gosh... I [b]know how it is currently considered very elite, Popular, and "trendy" for some to use the phrase that describes the source of where it is that they 'process' their 'information'. However, ... when you stop and think about that 'image', and realize what everyone's "gut" is filled-with?, then, they might reconsider the use of that word! *~Thanks for sharing, Athene. Interesting consideration. [/B]Wow, you are so clever. And lovely. Did I hit a nerve or why so nasty and ugly?Dumuzi quote:Originally posted by dragonflies: I didn't say the astrologer was ignorant about astrology, but about human nature. I am saying they are unsympathetic. Giving something the label of "bad" does nothing to make it easier to go deeper and understand more. It's not about sugarcoating, but having an open mind.how is it ignorant about human nature to label something good or bad? just because there can be depth behind it doesn't mean that what's on the surface is good 🤷♀️ also it's planetary energiesmars has these negative effects here, saturn here etc and so on, you can try to spin **** but like why? seems like a lot of copeif someone is say harming other people and lashing out are they a bad person? not necessarily, but what they're doing certainly is and at a certain level the depths and what's going on under the surface doesn't mean **** because the end result is still badsounds like you're taking surface judgments to heart if you're worried about depth, and honestly astrology is very much about stereotyping and **** anyway ESSSSSCSaturn - BADNeptune - Neutralmirage29 quote:Originally posted by dragonflies: I don't know: how serious are you here? I'm not an expert, but I run into this sort of thinking here and there and when Vedic astrology pops up in my YT feed or something I see words like "benefics"/"malefics" and I think to myself: this person is not ready to be an astrologer and should shut their trap. ...... . .It's basically calling people names.Maybe you are too new here, and there are things you haven't realized yet about women and 'language' used that might be offensive to them... quote:Originally posted by dragonflies: Wow, you are so clever. And lovely. Did I hit a nerve or why so nasty and ugly?Nasty and ugly??? I don't know what 'country' you come from, to interact here with another "hosting" culture (USA). Don't know how your Women are treated in your own country, family or locale--- but the way you made a long and 'sideways-innuendo' about Athenegoddess and her materials, suggesting that she 'shut her trap'??? is disgusting (here in the USA), and inappropriate, Dragonflies. Women (in THIS country) are not spoken to in that way. ... Weird, that all the other 4-and-5 letter words feel 'common'.. but what you said is not (mundanely, in 'this' country).Gently, maybe other women here at LL (with whom you've made everyday-friends) don't care if you'd say that to them?With Athenegoddess, maybe you haven't been here at LL long-enough to really know the different posters yet?Athenegoddess has been here even LONGER than I have. {This username is her second-incarnation} --- I feel protective of her. Talk **** all you want with others in your own threads, and with other women here you interact with on a daily basis. To use those words, shut your trap, to another woman (in my country) and with Athenegoddess in particular, don't know if you realize how incredibly dirty and offensive that comment is to a female? Again, I don't know how "females" are spoken to in your country,,, Just want you to know there's a difference.I personally don't mind the off-color here at all. I can be pretty salty myself, but refrain from it here, generally. (Thank you for sensitivity regarding the offense. You probably didn't realize... )diamondbabyMoon/Mars is not bad at all. I have it and I love it! Gives major Aries Moon vibes. I already got Moon in the 1st house though so I might just feel that, idk.
Moon Mercury = Bad
Moon Venus = Neutral or Good
Moon Mars = Bad
Venus Saturn = Neutral or Bad
Venus Jupiter = Good
Venus Neptune = Good
All Mars conjunctions are Bad
All Uranus conjunctions are Bad
All Pluto conjunctions are Bad
All Neptune conjunctions are Good
All Saturn conjunctions are neutral
Mercury Venus = Good
Sun Venus = Good
Sun Jupiter = Good
Sun Mercury = Good
Sun Mars = Bad
Venus Mars = Good
The sign the conjunctions are in matter as well and makes a substantial difference in energy. For example Venus conjunct Saturn in Aries is very bad. But Venus conjunct Saturn in Libra is neutral.
quote:Originally posted by Dumuzi:if all mars conjunctions are bad and all neptune conjunctions are good and i have mars-neptune... 🤔 does that just become neutral?
Woah there now! That's some dangerous thinkin'
quote:Originally posted by VeronicaNicole: Woah there now! That's some dangerous thinkin'
lol
quote:Originally posted by athenegoddess:I would say it is neutral. Mars Neptune leads more towards the dreamy side though and makes you access higher dimensions.
guess i thought right then 😁 though i kind of feel like my neptune messes with my cap mars pretty bad
it's a loose conjunction but it's the only aspect in my chart that explains why my cap mars doesn't function as it should
quote:Originally posted by athenegoddess:Sun Moon = NeutralMoon Mercury = BadMoon Venus = Neutral or GoodMoon Mars = BadVenus Saturn = Neutral or BadVenus Jupiter = GoodVenus Neptune = GoodAll Mars conjunctions are BadAll Uranus conjunctions are BadAll Pluto conjunctions are BadAll Neptune conjunctions are GoodAll Saturn conjunctions are neutralMercury Venus = Good Sun Venus = GoodSun Jupiter = GoodSun Mercury = GoodSun Mars = BadVenus Mars = GoodThe sign the conjunctions are in matter as well and makes a substantial difference in energy. For example Venus conjunct Saturn in Aries is very bad. But Venus conjunct Saturn in Libra is neutral.
Does this apply to synastry/composite, too?
I don't know: how serious are you here?
I'm not an expert, but I run into this sort of thinking here and there and when Vedic astrology pops up in my YT feed or something I see words like "benefics"/"malefics" and I think to myself: this person is not ready to be an astrologer and should shut their trap. I am not critising Vedic or any other form of astrology, I don't know anything about it per se, I can only speak from my gut reaction and say: this kind of thinking leads nowhere, labels people without any use and makes people feel bad for no reason. It's basically calling people names.
quote:Originally posted by dragonflies: I don't know: how serious are you here? I'm not an expert, but I run into this sort of thinking here and there and when Vedic astrology pops up in my YT feed or something I see words like "benefics"/"malefics" and I think to myself: this person is not ready to be an astrologer and should shut their trap. I am not critising Vedic or any other form of astrology, I don't know anything about it per se, I can only speak from my gut reaction and say: this kind of thinking leads nowhere, labels people without any use and makes people feel bad for no reason. It's basically calling people names.
vedic astrology benefics and malefics are used largely for life events and to explain the ways a planet functions in a person's chart
it's not a person being ignorant about astrology at all to mention them, or not ready for astrology it's just part of the system and how it works
it also extends beyond astrology and is tied to the symbology of many of these planets, some **** does have a bad effect and the need to sugarcoat is more of an issue
*~Thanks for sharing, Athene. Interesting consideration.
quote:Originally posted by MonteCristo: Does this apply to synastry/composite, too?
Yes somewhat.
quote:Originally posted by Dumuzi: vedic astrology benefics and malefics are used largely for life events and to explain the ways a planet functions in a person's chartit's not a person being ignorant about astrology at all to mention them, or not ready for astrology it's just part of the system and how it worksit also extends beyond astrology and is tied to the symbology of many of these planets, some **** does have a bad effect and the need to sugarcoat is more of an issue
I didn't say the astrologer was ignorant about astrology, but about human nature. I am saying they are unsympathetic.
Giving something the label of "bad" does nothing to make it easier to go deeper and understand more. It's not about sugarcoating, but having an open mind.
quote:Originally posted by mirage29:oh gosh... I [b]know how it is currently considered very elite, Popular, and "trendy" for some to use the phrase that describes the source of where it is that they 'process' their 'information'. However, ... when you stop and think about that 'image', and realize what everyone's "gut" is filled-with?, then, they might reconsider the use of that word! *~Thanks for sharing, Athene. Interesting consideration. [/B]
*~Thanks for sharing, Athene. Interesting consideration. [/B]
Wow, you are so clever. And lovely. Did I hit a nerve or why so nasty and ugly?
quote:Originally posted by dragonflies: I didn't say the astrologer was ignorant about astrology, but about human nature. I am saying they are unsympathetic. Giving something the label of "bad" does nothing to make it easier to go deeper and understand more. It's not about sugarcoating, but having an open mind.
how is it ignorant about human nature to label something good or bad? just because there can be depth behind it doesn't mean that what's on the surface is good 🤷♀️ also it's planetary energies
mars has these negative effects here, saturn here etc and so on, you can try to spin **** but like why? seems like a lot of cope
if someone is say harming other people and lashing out are they a bad person? not necessarily, but what they're doing certainly is and at a certain level the depths and what's going on under the surface doesn't mean **** because the end result is still bad
sounds like you're taking surface judgments to heart if you're worried about depth, and honestly astrology is very much about stereotyping and **** anyway
quote:Originally posted by dragonflies: I don't know: how serious are you here? I'm not an expert, but I run into this sort of thinking here and there and when Vedic astrology pops up in my YT feed or something I see words like "benefics"/"malefics" and I think to myself: this person is not ready to be an astrologer and should shut their trap. ...... . .It's basically calling people names.
I'm not an expert, but I run into this sort of thinking here and there and when Vedic astrology pops up in my YT feed or something I see words like "benefics"/"malefics"
and I think to myself: this person is not ready to be an astrologer and should shut their trap. .....
. . .
It's basically calling people names.
Maybe you are too new here, and there are things you haven't realized yet about women and 'language' used that might be offensive to them...
quote:Originally posted by dragonflies: Wow, you are so clever. And lovely. Did I hit a nerve or why so nasty and ugly?
Nasty and ugly???
I don't know what 'country' you come from, to interact here with another "hosting" culture (USA).
Don't know how your Women are treated in your own country, family or locale--- but the way you made a long and 'sideways-innuendo' about Athenegoddess and her materials, suggesting that she 'shut her trap'??? is disgusting (here in the USA), and inappropriate, Dragonflies.
Women (in THIS country) are not spoken to in that way. ... Weird, that all the other 4-and-5 letter words feel 'common'.. but what you said is not (mundanely, in 'this' country).
Gently, maybe other women here at LL (with whom you've made everyday-friends) don't care if you'd say that to them?
With Athenegoddess, maybe you haven't been here at LL long-enough to really know the different posters yet?
Athenegoddess has been here even LONGER than I have. {This username is her second-incarnation} ---
I feel protective of her.
Talk **** all you want with others in your own threads, and with other women here you interact with on a daily basis.
To use those words, shut your trap, to another woman (in my country) and with Athenegoddess in particular, don't know if you realize how incredibly dirty and offensive that comment is to a female?
Again, I don't know how "females" are spoken to in your country,,, Just want you to know there's a difference.
I personally don't mind the off-color here at all. I can be pretty salty myself, but refrain from it here, generally.
(Thank you for sensitivity regarding the offense. You probably didn't realize... )
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