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T O P I C R E V I E WwheelsofcheeseA person can now be detained without charge for 42 days in Britain.We already, at 28, have the longest detention period in the 'free' (hah) world.America's is 1 day, Australia's is 12.And all because of 'terror'. As jwhop has pointed out, there has been no terror in the USA since 2001. And I personally don't believe that our own London bombing attacks justify the complete destruction of my civil liberties, in the name of War on Terror. I could be banged up for 42 days just for being a suspect. I feel like crying. http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jun/11/terrorism.uksecurity wheelsofcheeseI know who I should be terrified of - my own Prime Minister. The sooner he gets the hell out of Downing Street the better, the sneaky underhanded get.jwhopWell wheels, the bill does show a certain mindset but on the other hand, as a practical matter it is probably moot.Considering the Labour Party lost more than 400 seats you may have a change in PM and be rid of Brown sooner than would have been expected."And all for nothing: so hedged about is the 42-day provision by now that it is most unlikely ever to be used except in a real national emergency, in which case something similar could have been done anyway, under existing legislation. Lords, judges and journalists will delay if not prevent its final passage on to the statute book. And if the bill does get there, a Conservative government will almost certainly repeal it. So this has been an exercise in muddled illiberal futility."wheelsofcheeseHe's handing it to Cameron on a plate,jwhop. The stupid eejit. He's a walking advert for How Not To Be A Prime Minister.ERRRRRRR, I feel sick I even voted Labour. They're liars. But what alternative now? Some floppy haired Etonian fop. Great.jwhopAwww wheels, you wouldn't discrimate against a candidate based on his school would you?Besides, I thought Cameron was an Oxford boy. But hey, if you object to Cameron you could start a draft John Major movement.wheelsofcheeseYep, I would discriminate because of the old boy network still rife in Britain. Elimination of herditary peerages in the House of Lords did absolutely nothing becauseof how the higher education system works here. It means that working class people are forced out as there are no grants anymore. So in all seriousness, yes I would. wheelsofcheeseHe went to prep school (alongside Prince Andrew and Edward, isn't that nice?), then Eton, then Oxford. It's worse than I thought.wheelsofcheeseAfter finally leaving Eton just before Christmas 1984, Cameron had nine months of a gap year before going up to Oxford. In January he began work as a researcher for Tim Rathbone, Conservative MP for Lewes and his godfather, in his Parliamentary office. He was there only for three months, but used the time to attend debates in the House of Commons.[24] Through his father (nepotism! see!), he was then employed for a further three months in Hong Kong by Jardine Matheson as a 'ship jumper', an administrative post for which no experience was needed but which gave him some experience of work.[25]Oh isn't that a lovely story. I feel sick. What would he know about the likes of me eh? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Cameron#Education maklhoufdon't despair, this is just step 1. The oldies in the house of lords will throw it out------------------ The stone which the builders rejected, The same was made the head of the corner; Matthew 21:42wheelsofcheeseI hope so malkhouf. jwhopbump
We already, at 28, have the longest detention period in the 'free' (hah) world.America's is 1 day, Australia's is 12.
And all because of 'terror'. As jwhop has pointed out, there has been no terror in the USA since 2001. And I personally don't believe that our own London bombing attacks justify the complete destruction of my civil liberties, in the name of War on Terror. I could be banged up for 42 days just for being a suspect. I feel like crying. http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jun/11/terrorism.uksecurity
Considering the Labour Party lost more than 400 seats you may have a change in PM and be rid of Brown sooner than would have been expected.
"And all for nothing: so hedged about is the 42-day provision by now that it is most unlikely ever to be used except in a real national emergency, in which case something similar could have been done anyway, under existing legislation. Lords, judges and journalists will delay if not prevent its final passage on to the statute book. And if the bill does get there, a Conservative government will almost certainly repeal it. So this has been an exercise in muddled illiberal futility."
ERRRRRRR, I feel sick I even voted Labour. They're liars. But what alternative now? Some floppy haired Etonian fop. Great.
Besides, I thought Cameron was an Oxford boy. But hey, if you object to Cameron you could start a draft John Major movement.
Elimination of herditary peerages in the House of Lords did absolutely nothing becauseof how the higher education system works here. It means that working class people are forced out as there are no grants anymore. So in all seriousness, yes I would.
Oh isn't that a lovely story. I feel sick. What would he know about the likes of me eh? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Cameron#Education
------------------ The stone which the builders rejected, The same was made the head of the corner; Matthew 21:42
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