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T O P I C R E V I E WjwhopYep, that's right. Iran which routinely stones women, oppresses women and treats women as property....now gets to help set policy on gender equality and the advancement of women.Wow, and where was our clueless president O'Bomber and the equally clueless US State Dept...and our equally clueless Ambassador to the United Nations?Well, one thing is certain. None of these clueless clucks were anywhere to be found. They never uttered a peep of protest about Iran, an oppressor and killer of women being anywhere near decision making authority on women's issues.And we...Americans...are supposed to believe O'Bomber and the US State Department are on top of the issue of Iran acquiring nuclear weapons. Clueless clucks are the right descriptive words for O'Bomber and the State Department run by Hillary Clinton. Btw, US taxpayers fund 25% of the general operating fund of the utterly feckless, utterly useless, utterly corrupt United Nations.AbsintheDragonflyAre these all of the members?Argentina 2014Armenia 2011Azerbaijan 2011Bangladesh 2014Belarus 2013Belgium 2011Cambodia 2011Central African Republic 2014China 2012Colombia 2013Comoros 2014Cuba 2012Dominican Republic 2012El Salvador 2014Eritrea 2012Gabon 2011Gambia 2014Germany 2013Guinea 2013Haiti 2012India 2012Iraq 2013Israel 2013Italy 2013Japan 2013Libyan Arab Jamahiriya 2014Malaysia 2014Mauritania 2013Mongolia 2014Namibia 2011Nicaragua 2013Niger 2011Pakistan 2011Paraguay 2011Philippines 2014Republic of Korea 2014Russian Federation 2012Rwanda 2013Senegal 2012Spain 2011Swaziland 2014Sweden 2012Turkey 2011United States of America 2012Uruguay 2014There's a couple others that aren't exactly hotbeds of equality either, I have to say, though my mom always told me that throwing rocks is the work of cowards. katatonicnot quite sure what you're getting at jwhop? do we run the UN? maybe they had their reasons, like the politician said to the queen of one of her would-be rivals, "you keep him in the cabinet, nice and close where you can keep your eye on him..."politics isn't all about drawing lines in the sand.jwhopAbsintheDragonfly, I don't know if that's the complete list or not. I agree there are others on the list which are not exactly hotbeds of equal rights for women.Oh thanks katatonic. I can see I'm going to have to rethink O'Bomber's position on Iran.Who would have thought O'Bomber would come up with such a brilliant strategy..."keep your friends close and your enemies closer".Oh wait, the US is not on that UN Commission with Iran so there goes that strategy.Besides, whenever did O'Bomber have the time to study the saying some attribute to Sun Tzu from the 6th Century BC?I'm pretty sure O'Bomber spent all his time studying the collected works of Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, Ho, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro, Alinski, Cloward and Piven...and is presently engaged is absorbing every word that drips off the tongue of Hugo Chavez.In the meantime, the President of Iran...Aberdinernut and other loony tunes caricatures of humanity are busy saying things like...There was no HolocaustWomen who wear revealing clothing and behave promiscuously are to blame for earthquakes.Suntanned women and girls who are like "walking mannequins" will be arrested in Iran.Perhaps you should tell your friend, The One, The Messiah, O'Bomber that the Loony Tunes in Iran are laughing at O'Bomber and his own Loony Tunes foreign policy decisions regarding Iran.In the meantime, Iran continues to enrich Uranium to make a nuclear weapon....stone women to death and oppress the rest of the women in Iran. AbsintheDragonflyI'm confused as to how they decide who get's to be on these panels? RWANDA??? Come on! Where's Sweden at? They've got great examples of how to be supportive, with the policies they put in place for mothers especially.I'm not very impressed with moat of these members, quite honestly.It is a strange and bizarre world we live in.------------------We cannot seek or attain health, wealth, learning, justice or kindness in general. Action is always specific, concrete, individualized, unique. --Benjamin Jowett It is in giving that we receive. --Saint Francis of Assisikatatonicyou misunderstand me, whether deliberately or not. my point was that we do not run the UN and that perhaps some of those countries are included BECAUSE they need to update their outlook and such a committee is one place to facilitate that?one more time, what the UN does is not our call and the rights of women in iran has little to do with our nukes policy. what a strange connection!?and there would be no need to go back to ancient chinese history since that strategy is has been used and reused over the centuries by the craftier statesmen of all times. still it was the UN, not obama, who put iran on that list. along with the other gross offenders against women already there.AbsintheDragonfly quote:perhaps some of those countries are included BECAUSE they need to update their outlook and such a committee is one place to facilitate that?I hadn't considered that point, so thank you Kat.jwhopYeah, the utterly corrupt, inept and useless UN did put Iran on that Committee.But...There wasn't one peep of protest from O'Bomber, the State Dept or the US Ambassador to the UN...AND there sure as hell should have been.You can bet your life that had Bush been president all hell would have broken loose at the UN and our US Ambassador to the UN, John Bolton would have raised holy hell on the floor of the General Assembly over the UN putting an abuser nation of women on a committee overseeing women's equality.It sounds like you're attempting to defend on this issue katatonic. I wonder why you would attempt to defend the indefensible?katatonicwhat on earth is there to defend? i think it is a bogus trumped-up issue. i thought i made that clear.you may think we should scream about it but you don't know the half of it, not being president or in the government yourself. you are entitled to your opinion but i am willing to see that their may be reasons why iran would be put in this particular group and they are not about how wonderful iran is with women.once upon a time iranian women were the most liberated, educated, empowered women in that part of the world. it is sad to see the backsliding there. but i think keeping nukes out of iran is more the president's sphere than shrieking every time someone else puts them on a UN comission. we have no jurisdiction over their social issues.jwhopBut, we do have a permanent seat on the UN Security Council. And, if the US had opposed this appointment, it probably would not have happened. Any half awake teenager could make the case that nations who abuse women should never have any power over women's issues.Iran will not see O'Bombers silence on their appointment as O'Bomber minding his own business. Iran will interpret O'Bomber's silence as weakness and there will be more provocation from Iran as a result which will play out in the area of Iran's nuclear weapons talks.katatonici would not want MOST of those countries influencing women's rights or affairs. but there they are. from what i see obama tends to take the "bigger person" stance on the majority of issues. not weaker, bigger. i don't agree with a lot of what comes out of his office or washington in general. but to me jumping up and down and screaming to mommy when someone you don't like comes to dinner is not masterful HOWEVER, i will give you this..that before any iranian diplomats move into new york someone had better secure all the hatches and make sure they're not here to make trouble...as in sneaking in contraband and weapons...given the way their leader likes to talk about bringing us down. THAT - physical presence in new york - is dodgy to me.AbsintheDragonflyWho is the current US UN Ambassador anyhow? Wouldn't it be that individuals place to talk about these issues?jwhopSusan Rice is the US Ambassador to the United Nations...which is a State Dept position.I suppose Rice could speak to the problem of Iran being on this commission...but then, so could Hillary Clinton or Barack O'Bomber.May 06, 2010 Further reasons why the UN is a useless organization - as if you needed anyEthel C. FenigAs Rick Moran noted last week when learning that Iran was elected to the UN's Commission on the Status of Women, it is time to agitate for the US Out of the UN as his files "Idiotic Things Done by the UN" and "Reasons the UN Should Never, Ever, Be Taken Seriously" are too mild. Anne Bayefsky of Eye on the UN has further proof that leaving the UN is now the only serious option for those who take human rights and/or any form of decent intraplanetary government co-operation seriously. Iran's election to the UN Commission on the Status of Women on April 28, 2010 wasn't the only UN shocker that day. The Democratic Republic of Congo, Cuba, Sudan and Zimbabwe are among the dictatorships and human rights basket-cases elected to UN leadership roles and positions that entail responsibilities diametrically opposed to their qualifications.* UN Committee on Non-Governmental Organizations: Sudan, Cuba, China, Pakistan* UN Commission on Social Development: Cuba, Egypt, Zimbabwe* UN Commission on the Status of Women: The Democratic Republic of Congo, Iran* UN Commission on Sustainable Development: Angola, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia* UN Human Settlements Programme (UN-HABITAT), Governing Council: IranFor example, let's look at the UN's Committee on Non-Governmental Organizations (NGO).In plain language, this Committee gets to decide what NGOs are permitted to get UN passes, passes which will allow them into the UN, to lobby governments and to participate and speak at UN meetings.Who gets to choose the right and wrong NGOs? On April 28 the UN re-elected Sudan, Cuba, China and Pakistan.Their qualifications for the job?SUDAN (US State Department's Country Report on Human Rights Practices 2009, Sudan)"[T]he government expelled 13 humanitarian nongovernmental organizations (NGOs) from the country. The government also shut down three Sudanese NGOs in March...As of year's end whereabouts [of the cofounder of the NGO Darfur Forum for Reconciliation and Peaceful Coexistence] were unknown...Security forces arbitrarily arrested and detained...NGO members...(snip)CUBA (US State Department's Country Report on Human Rights Practices 2009, Cuba)"[T]he government did not recognize any domestic human rights groups or permit them to function legally...There are no officially recognized, independent NGOs that monitor human rights...(snip)CHINA (US State Department's Country Report on Human Rights Practices 2009, China)"Nongovernmental organizations (NGOs), both local and international, continued to face intense scrutiny and restrictions...[T]he government maintained a task force aimed at blocking political change advocated by NGOs involved in social, political, and charitable activities, and also by groups dedicated to combating discrimination against women, persons with disabilities, and minorities... The full reports for each commission and its member countries are equally farcical, mocking the purpose of their commissions while prolonging the suffering of the people they are to protect. Starving foxes guarding henhouses would be more reliable. http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/05/further_reasons_why_the_un_is.html
Wow, and where was our clueless president O'Bomber and the equally clueless US State Dept...and our equally clueless Ambassador to the United Nations?
Well, one thing is certain. None of these clueless clucks were anywhere to be found. They never uttered a peep of protest about Iran, an oppressor and killer of women being anywhere near decision making authority on women's issues.
And we...Americans...are supposed to believe O'Bomber and the US State Department are on top of the issue of Iran acquiring nuclear weapons. Clueless clucks are the right descriptive words for O'Bomber and the State Department run by Hillary Clinton.
Btw, US taxpayers fund 25% of the general operating fund of the utterly feckless, utterly useless, utterly corrupt United Nations.
Argentina 2014Armenia 2011Azerbaijan 2011Bangladesh 2014Belarus 2013Belgium 2011Cambodia 2011Central African Republic 2014China 2012Colombia 2013Comoros 2014Cuba 2012Dominican Republic 2012El Salvador 2014Eritrea 2012Gabon 2011Gambia 2014Germany 2013Guinea 2013Haiti 2012India 2012Iraq 2013Israel 2013Italy 2013Japan 2013Libyan Arab Jamahiriya 2014Malaysia 2014Mauritania 2013Mongolia 2014Namibia 2011Nicaragua 2013Niger 2011Pakistan 2011Paraguay 2011Philippines 2014Republic of Korea 2014Russian Federation 2012Rwanda 2013Senegal 2012Spain 2011Swaziland 2014Sweden 2012Turkey 2011United States of America 2012Uruguay 2014
There's a couple others that aren't exactly hotbeds of equality either, I have to say, though my mom always told me that throwing rocks is the work of cowards.
politics isn't all about drawing lines in the sand.
Oh thanks katatonic. I can see I'm going to have to rethink O'Bomber's position on Iran.
Who would have thought O'Bomber would come up with such a brilliant strategy..."keep your friends close and your enemies closer".
Oh wait, the US is not on that UN Commission with Iran so there goes that strategy.
Besides, whenever did O'Bomber have the time to study the saying some attribute to Sun Tzu from the 6th Century BC?
I'm pretty sure O'Bomber spent all his time studying the collected works of Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, Ho, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro, Alinski, Cloward and Piven...and is presently engaged is absorbing every word that drips off the tongue of Hugo Chavez.
In the meantime, the President of Iran...Aberdinernut and other loony tunes caricatures of humanity are busy saying things like...
There was no Holocaust
Women who wear revealing clothing and behave promiscuously are to blame for earthquakes.
Suntanned women and girls who are like "walking mannequins" will be arrested in Iran.
Perhaps you should tell your friend, The One, The Messiah, O'Bomber that the Loony Tunes in Iran are laughing at O'Bomber and his own Loony Tunes foreign policy decisions regarding Iran.
In the meantime, Iran continues to enrich Uranium to make a nuclear weapon....stone women to death and oppress the rest of the women in Iran.
I'm not very impressed with moat of these members, quite honestly.
It is a strange and bizarre world we live in.
------------------We cannot seek or attain health, wealth, learning, justice or kindness in general. Action is always specific, concrete, individualized, unique. --Benjamin Jowett
It is in giving that we receive. --Saint Francis of Assisi
one more time, what the UN does is not our call and the rights of women in iran has little to do with our nukes policy. what a strange connection!?
and there would be no need to go back to ancient chinese history since that strategy is has been used and reused over the centuries by the craftier statesmen of all times. still it was the UN, not obama, who put iran on that list. along with the other gross offenders against women already there.
quote:perhaps some of those countries are included BECAUSE they need to update their outlook and such a committee is one place to facilitate that?
I hadn't considered that point, so thank you Kat.
But...
There wasn't one peep of protest from O'Bomber, the State Dept or the US Ambassador to the UN...AND there sure as hell should have been.
You can bet your life that had Bush been president all hell would have broken loose at the UN and our US Ambassador to the UN, John Bolton would have raised holy hell on the floor of the General Assembly over the UN putting an abuser nation of women on a committee overseeing women's equality.
It sounds like you're attempting to defend on this issue katatonic. I wonder why you would attempt to defend the indefensible?
once upon a time iranian women were the most liberated, educated, empowered women in that part of the world. it is sad to see the backsliding there. but i think keeping nukes out of iran is more the president's sphere than shrieking every time someone else puts them on a UN comission. we have no jurisdiction over their social issues.
Iran will not see O'Bombers silence on their appointment as O'Bomber minding his own business. Iran will interpret O'Bomber's silence as weakness and there will be more provocation from Iran as a result which will play out in the area of Iran's nuclear weapons talks.
HOWEVER, i will give you this..that before any iranian diplomats move into new york someone had better secure all the hatches and make sure they're not here to make trouble...as in sneaking in contraband and weapons...given the way their leader likes to talk about bringing us down. THAT - physical presence in new york - is dodgy to me.
I suppose Rice could speak to the problem of Iran being on this commission...but then, so could Hillary Clinton or Barack O'Bomber.
May 06, 2010 Further reasons why the UN is a useless organization - as if you needed anyEthel C. Fenig
As Rick Moran noted last week when learning that Iran was elected to the UN's Commission on the Status of Women, it is time to agitate for the US Out of the UN as his files "Idiotic Things Done by the UN" and "Reasons the UN Should Never, Ever, Be Taken Seriously" are too mild.
Anne Bayefsky of Eye on the UN has further proof that leaving the UN is now the only serious option for those who take human rights and/or any form of decent intraplanetary government co-operation seriously.
Iran's election to the UN Commission on the Status of Women on April 28, 2010 wasn't the only UN shocker that day. The Democratic Republic of Congo, Cuba, Sudan and Zimbabwe are among the dictatorships and human rights basket-cases elected to UN leadership roles and positions that entail responsibilities diametrically opposed to their qualifications.
* UN Committee on Non-Governmental Organizations: Sudan, Cuba, China, Pakistan
* UN Commission on Social Development: Cuba, Egypt, Zimbabwe
* UN Commission on the Status of Women: The Democratic Republic of Congo, Iran
* UN Commission on Sustainable Development: Angola, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia
* UN Human Settlements Programme (UN-HABITAT), Governing Council: Iran
For example, let's look at the UN's Committee on Non-Governmental Organizations (NGO).
In plain language, this Committee gets to decide what NGOs are permitted to get UN passes, passes which will allow them into the UN, to lobby governments and to participate and speak at UN meetings.Who gets to choose the right and wrong NGOs? On April 28 the UN re-elected Sudan, Cuba, China and Pakistan.Their qualifications for the job?
SUDAN
(US State Department's Country Report on Human Rights Practices 2009, Sudan)"[T]he government expelled 13 humanitarian nongovernmental organizations (NGOs) from the country. The government also shut down three Sudanese NGOs in March...As of year's end whereabouts [of the cofounder of the NGO Darfur Forum for Reconciliation and Peaceful Coexistence] were unknown...Security forces arbitrarily arrested and detained...NGO members...(snip)
CUBA
(US State Department's Country Report on Human Rights Practices 2009, Cuba)"[T]he government did not recognize any domestic human rights groups or permit them to function legally...There are no officially recognized, independent NGOs that monitor human rights...(snip)
CHINA
(US State Department's Country Report on Human Rights Practices 2009, China)"Nongovernmental organizations (NGOs), both local and international, continued to face intense scrutiny and restrictions...[T]he government maintained a task force aimed at blocking political change advocated by NGOs involved in social, political, and charitable activities, and also by groups dedicated to combating discrimination against women, persons with disabilities, and minorities...
The full reports for each commission and its member countries are equally farcical, mocking the purpose of their commissions while prolonging the suffering of the people they are to protect.
Starving foxes guarding henhouses would be more reliable. http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/05/further_reasons_why_the_un_is.html
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