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T O P I C R E V I E WNode http://money.cnn.com/2011/11/28/news/companies/citigroup_settlement_rejected/index.htm?hpt=hp_t2 Go Rakoff!katatonic285 million? tell you what, when i run down an old man in an intersection, i will pay 50 bucks to be allowed to go scot free without a trial!"[I]n any case like this that touches on the transparency of financial markets whose gyrations have so depressed our economy and debilitated our lives, there is an overriding public interest in knowing the truth," Rakoff, a U.S. district judge in Manhattan, wrote in his decision.The SEC's pattern of allowing big banks to reach settlements without admitting or denying wrongdoing, Rakoff added, has been "hallowed by history, but not by reason."Big bank SEC settlements: Toothless face-savers?Robert Khuzami, director of the SEC's enforcement division, responded that the proposed settlement was "fair" and "reasonably reflects the scope of relief that would be obtained after a successful trial." He added: "Refusing an otherwise advantageous settlement solely because of the absence of an admission [of wrongdoing] would divert resources away from the investigation of other frauds and the recovery of losses suffered by other investors not before the courti say, make it a few billion and we can afford to try them all.jwhopI actually agree with the judge...though I would rather have seen the judge refer the case to the Justice Dept for a criminal indictment, prosecution and trial.Securities fraud is a criminal offense and should be dealt with in criminal court.NodeAn excellent metaphor Kat, and I echo your sentiment-> quote:"i say, make it a few billion and we can afford to try them all."considering the legendary executive bonus plan at the group. Citi was the recipient of more federal bailout money than any other....somewhere to the tune of 45BI have personal ax to grind with Citi. My mother had her investments with Legg Mason which was acquired by Smith Barney. After the change during 2007-08 she lost a bundle. When her funds dipped below a certain point we were told that in order to stay in the group we would be charged hundreds off the top quarterly to remain. They discourage those who had less than a certain amount invested. Squeezed out. They mismanaged the funds, an old Legg Mason employee who knew of her accounts admitted this, though she never used the word "mismanaged" Now- I know why we received a notice early this month telling her that her Mortgage bought by Citi a few years ago was being swapped again.Citi is purging / liquidating these mortgages and other holdings in preparation for reparations.------------------~ "I have proudly fought in the war on Christmas."GOP Presidential candidate~ M. Bachmannjwhop"Michelle Bachmann, "I have proudly fought in the war on Christmas."You know you're dealing with intellectual pygmies when they have to resort to making stuff up about political opponents! A Google search...Michele Bachmann, "I have proudly fought in the war on Christmas."... produced exactly...wait for it....4 results; none of which stated when or where Bachmann made the "alleged" comment. http://www.google.com/#q=Michele+Bachmann,+%22I+have+proudly+fought+in+the+war+on+Christmas.%22&hl=en&prmd=imvnso&filter=0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=b499f78209671812&biw=128 0&bih=757However, the top result came from one of the top intellectual pygmie's message board and I'm talking Randi Rhodes here. So, one of Randi Rhodes morons starts their post thus..."I'm just going to make stuff up about the debate:" http://forum.randirhodes.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=7026&start=465 And then proceeds to hold a mock debate...where "stuff" is...just made up!Then, the rest of the intellectual pygmy chorus picks it up and attempts to spread it AS TRUTH...even putting quotation marks around the comment! The Leftist Airhead Brigade have so much air between their ears...and not much of anything else, that their feet haven't touched Earth in years. shuraVikings do it better http://www.businessinsider.com/iceland-glitnir-bank-larus-welding-2011-12
Go Rakoff!
The SEC's pattern of allowing big banks to reach settlements without admitting or denying wrongdoing, Rakoff added, has been "hallowed by history, but not by reason."
Big bank SEC settlements: Toothless face-savers?Robert Khuzami, director of the SEC's enforcement division, responded that the proposed settlement was "fair" and "reasonably reflects the scope of relief that would be obtained after a successful trial."
He added: "Refusing an otherwise advantageous settlement solely because of the absence of an admission [of wrongdoing] would divert resources away from the investigation of other frauds and the recovery of losses suffered by other investors not before the court
i say, make it a few billion and we can afford to try them all.
Securities fraud is a criminal offense and should be dealt with in criminal court.
quote:"i say, make it a few billion and we can afford to try them all."
considering the legendary executive bonus plan at the group. Citi was the recipient of more federal bailout money than any other....somewhere to the tune of 45B
I have personal ax to grind with Citi. My mother had her investments with Legg Mason which was acquired by Smith Barney. After the change during 2007-08 she lost a bundle. When her funds dipped below a certain point we were told that in order to stay in the group we would be charged hundreds off the top quarterly to remain. They discourage those who had less than a certain amount invested. Squeezed out. They mismanaged the funds, an old Legg Mason employee who knew of her accounts admitted this, though she never used the word "mismanaged"
Now- I know why we received a notice early this month telling her that her Mortgage bought by Citi a few years ago was being swapped again.
Citi is purging / liquidating these mortgages and other holdings in preparation for reparations.
------------------~ "I have proudly fought in the war on Christmas."GOP Presidential candidate~ M. Bachmann
You know you're dealing with intellectual pygmies when they have to resort to making stuff up about political opponents!
A Google search...Michele Bachmann, "I have proudly fought in the war on Christmas."... produced exactly...wait for it....
4 results; none of which stated when or where Bachmann made the "alleged" comment. http://www.google.com/#q=Michele+Bachmann,+%22I+have+proudly+fought+in+the+war+on+Christmas.%22&hl=en&prmd=imvnso&filter=0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=b499f78209671812&biw=128 0&bih=757
However, the top result came from one of the top intellectual pygmie's message board and I'm talking Randi Rhodes here.
So, one of Randi Rhodes morons starts their post thus..."I'm just going to make stuff up about the debate:" http://forum.randirhodes.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=7026&start=465
And then proceeds to hold a mock debate...where "stuff" is...just made up!
Then, the rest of the intellectual pygmy chorus picks it up and attempts to spread it AS TRUTH...even putting quotation marks around the comment!
The Leftist Airhead Brigade have so much air between their ears...and not much of anything else, that their feet haven't touched Earth in years.
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