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teasel | http://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/10/26/who-is-cesar-altieri-sayoc-what-we-know-about-suspected-mail-bomber-arrested-florida/?utm_term=.0aaaf3ea6526 |
mirage29 | Deplorable! .. Tried to take-out Hillary before her birthday today. - http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Clinton,_Hillary
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mirage29 | - http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum26/HTML/004098.html |
jwhop | None of those "non bombs" had explosive initiators to set off the powder charges. So, Sayoc wasn't trying to take out Hillary The Corrupt...or anyone else. |
pire | Oh there you are jwhop, i am reassured ! |
Randall | They were almost like movie props. |
mirage29 | Officials determined that these were actual bombs, not props or fakes, with potential to explode.
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jwhop | Randall's "movie props" comment is a good description of these devices. Report: Several Mail Bombs ‘Not Capable of Exploding,’ Not All Tested Yet JOSHUA CAPLAN 25 Oct 2018
NBC New York reports multiple suspected crude pipe bombs sent to prominent Democrats and others were “not capable of exploding,”............. http://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/10/25/report-several-mail-bombs-not-capable-of-exploding-not-all-tested-yet/ |
jwhop | quote: Originally posted by pire: Oh there you are jwhop, i am reassured !
I'm reassured that you're reassured.
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Catalina | Proactively detonated .. how many "real" bombs does it take to be taken seriously? http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45949737 It is currently unknown which recipients received flawed devices... According to the officials, the "some of the devices‘ defects ranged from “subtle” to “substantial” |
jwhop | quote: Originally posted by Catalina: Proactively detonated .. how many "real" bombs does it take to be taken seriously? http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45949737 [b]It is currently unknown which recipients received flawed devices... According to the officials, the "some of the devices‘ defects ranged from “subtle” to “substantial” [/B]
You can't set off gunpowder with alarm clocks. Of course the FBI is going to maximize the potential damage these non-bombs could have done. They and the Justice Dept have to have a case to present to a jury. But, the bottom line is...NONE OF THESE SO CALLED BOMBS EXPLODED! None of the people alleged to have been targeted open their own mail. Staff opens their mail. So, what was the game? It should also be noted that this guy was charged with offenses relating to violations of the US Postal Codes. You can't send gunpowder through the US Mail without a proper container and proper markings so postal workers know they're dealing with explosives. "All orders containing gunpowder, primers, or percussion caps will charged a $28.00 hazardous materials charge per shipping box with these items." http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item/00034imr8060091/imr-4831-smokeless-powder- 1-lb |
juniperb | Anyone who defends this behavior, explosive or not, is a sad person. There are many theories floating around out there but boil it down, this is a bad indication where hate rhetoric is taking us... A famous Aquarian once said (paraphrased): " how quickly our differences would disappear if we were facing an alien invasion". We would become one and this is the attitude we need against hate rhetoric. ------------------ Partial truth~the seeds of wisdom~can be found in many places...The seeds of wisdom are contained in all scriptures ever written… especially in art, music, and poetry and, above all, in Nature.
Linda Goodman |
jwhop | "Anyone who defends this behavior, explosive or not, is a sad person." I have not heard or seen anyone defending Sayoc. Have you? |
Randall | No one is defending that nut job. |
teasel | quote: Originally posted by jwhop: "Anyone who defends this behavior, explosive or not, is a sad person."I have not heard or seen anyone defending Sayoc. Have you?
Your very own Rump said that CNN brought it on themselves. |
teasel | quote: Originally posted by juniperb: Anyone who defends this behavior, explosive or not, is a sad person. There are many theories floating around out there but boil it down, this is a bad indication where hate rhetoric is taking us... A famous Aquarian once said (paraphrased): " how quickly our differences would disappear if we were facing an alien invasion". We would become one and this is the attitude we need against hate rhetoric.
I wish that were true, but I'm sure there would be collaborators in that kind of situation, too. |
jwhop | quote: Originally posted by teasel: Your very own Rump said that CNN brought it on themselves.
Why are you lying about what President Trump said? Think you're going to score some cheap political points with lies? If demorats were prohibited from lying, they'd be struck speechless. |
iQ | The bombs were sent as a warning by the QAnon Camp that they can assassinate any Democrat Leader at will. QAnon Camp has support of some disgruntled US Military Intelligence who blame Dems for 9-11 [Under Bush/Cheney Regime/Rumsfeld!] and possibly some disgrunted War Veterans plus the Neo-Nazi "Whote Power" Camp that is anti-Semitic, and they are virulently anti-FBI. One of them assassinated the innocent Jews in a Pittsburgh Synagogue. For QAnon Group, "Globalism" is a Dog Whistle to mean Jews. Typical "Mein Kampf" Protocls of Elders of Zions Playbook, to blame George Soros for everything and indirectly blame Jews for all ills plagueing soceity. but not blame Saudi Arabia for supporting Terrorism through Wahabbism on a Global Scale. Trump has a big chunk of the blame though his acolytes will never accept it. He throws "Red Meat" to the animals of his base in rally after rally espousing anger and violence. This triggers the already angry/unhinged attendees forming the Trump Cult of the Dear Leader who can do no wrong. They never think why Dear leader refuses to release his tax returns. There could be thousands of mass shooters ready to kill who have been triggered for the past 3 years by Trump's Rhetoric. One word to attack by a GOP leader, and dozens will run amok. Next target could be poor Latin American Housing Colonies or even Mosques. United Nations could be targets, FBI Officers could be targets. And Trump will never apologize nor would any GOP Senator/Congress Leader as they are heavily invested in the Right Wing Supremacist Vote Share. There really is a Deep State. And this Deep State is neither Jewish nor Christian nor Islamic nor Socialist nor Capitalist. It is Satanic, it controls the Mob, Arms Manufacturers plus Banking System and thrives in the USA by pitting Dems vs Republicans so that Humanity takes a beating. The worst case scenario that Putin and his Semion Mogilevich Russian Mob is counting on for the Deep State is a Civil War. Trump's lack of Empathy andincreased Divisiveness is aiding their cause. Dems have a huge responsibility to re-unite the country, but for that they must first win something. 6 more years of unhinged Right Wing Politics will set the clock back by decades.
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jwhop | Another fly specked conspiracy theory. Prove any part of what you've said...with credible sources, not some idiots on half baked conspiracy blogs. |
BlueRoamer | None of those "non bombs" had explosive initiators to set off the powder charges. So, Sayoc wasn't trying to take out Hillary The Corrupt...or anyone else. So wait Jwhop you're making excuses for this behavior? You've essentially implied it's not "that bad" because there was no "actual threat." This is off the deep end even for you. You're supposed to drink water from the tap, quit drinking the swamp water down there! |
BlueRoamer | No one is defending that nut job. Jwhop was literally making excuses and defending him above. I'm glad Randall you're not defending him.
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BlueRoamer | It doesn't matter if its fake or not, it's gross behavior that needs to be condemned. I would take the same stance no matter who they were mailed to. |
Randall | Jwhop did no such thing. Facts are facts. |
Randall | He's facing five counts, including mailing illegal explosives and threatening Presidents. |