@Catalinai never said there was a rebel army, i was pointing out that well organized militias could in fact do some damage, and i'm not at all romanticizing guerilla warfare obviously it would suck to have to live through that
however, those are the tactics that would likely be employed
when someone says something possible is impossible and there's logical reason why then i'm going to be real about it and point that out
because only someone who thinks that wars are just endless bombs from the sky and that's it or nukes etc is going to have this idea in their head that a well organized well armed militia would be incapable of doing anything
other countries prove that wrong so have other wars
a good portion of those gun deaths you're talking about are actually done with illegal weapons so when you give gun death statistics they're going to be skewed because of places like chicago
you can't cite numbers that include illegal guns when you're talking about whether or not something should be legal
suicides aren't because there's guns they happen for a number of reasons and suicides are on the rise with many methods currently in society so what that says to me is there's a lot of issues that need to be dealt with instead of blaming guns
you could kill yourself with tylenol if you take enough of it, completely lethal, so people who are determined will
we might have a lot of gun violence but we still aren't number one in murders you know that right?
having a means of self defense isn't a matter of fear, that's like saying people who learn to fight are walking around always afraid of getting into a fight that's not the case
what you're doing it you're twisting things to suit your needs here and paint a skewed picture of someone who takes precautions as someone who lives in terror
this isn't the case, it's a play on emotion and it doesn't work
yeah the revolution this country was founded on involved funding and aid from elsewhere, who said it didn't? also social unrest comes in waves it doesn't stay the same,what you have now is an increase and that's causing a rise in violence
this is natural and obviously you can't fully eliminate social unrest i'm not pretending you can (you can't eliminate murder either let's be real here, there's literally no point in pretending anything can put an end to the more gruesome side of existence) however all systems are given to collapse and eventual failure over time and this particular climate is a bit different than say civil unrest at other points
time will tell though now won't it?
i'm not at all impressed by the attacks in britain, i'm pointing that they happen and alternate means are used
i'll let you know when i see something i find impressive, i've yet to see it
the reality is people are always telling themselves to wait around for a long gradual process and that's how you end up with things the way they that they are
typically long gradual processes lead nowhere good and are too dependent on unrealistic factors
like i said the government shouldn't have the right to disarm people and it's that simple, statistics are just that at the end of the day
you break them down to individuals and that's sad but when you look at the numbers and weigh that against reality the individual lives are lost and the numbers dictate everything
in this case the numbers aren't enough for that to be worthwhile