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T O P I C R E V I E WNeptunianSagWhat makes one person want to bully someone? Bullying is about power and control so i'm thinking its afflicted pluto/mars in synastry, what do you think? Has anyone ever been bullied and checked your synastry with that person? Bullying really saddens me, its even more sad when it happens when highschool is over. PixieJaneI never got to know such a person well enough...offhand, I can't even think sun sign. Though there was one...I'm not sure she classifies as a bully (by classical definition, not the "the person makes me uncomfortable and therefore a bully" that's popular today), but she TRIED to bully me in a brow beating way, but I believe got frustrated that I simply didn't care, had I not been forced to sit next to her I wouldn't have paid attention to her at all. It was more out of self-righteousness rather than sadism, however, and I believe it was her Sag & Scorpio placements mixed with Chinese year of the dog (that likes to bark at those who seem bad for the group to drive them away) that just inspired her to be brutally honest with me and try to drive me away/make an example of me or correct my behavior (in her view). That is, she didn't come after me because it was fun for her but because I outraged her sensibilities (and perhaps disrupted her harmony). The kicker is she was born on the same day at the same hospital as me (she also had a name nearly identical to mine which is how we were forced to sit next to each other in class). When that became known someone in the class asked if I'd stolen her pacifier or something back then given that she was always trying to give me a hard time, which the class thought was hilarious. So her chart would be at least near identical to mine, only the ascendant possibly different...though my Mercury is so close to Scorpio that her Mercury may have crossed all the way over (if she was born several hours later). Lotis WhiteI tend to think synastry Pluto, Mars, and Saturn in hard aspect to personal planets in the victim's chart could play a role. Saturn can indicate disapproval. Mars can indicate aggression.Pluto can indicate power-games.In general I think bullying is an ugly thing. Bullies are looking for a false sense of superiority because they use arbitrary things to convince themselves they're better then the other person. You could pick any random thing to pick on someone for... The type of clothes they wear, the shape of a mole on their body, the way they speak. In reality things things mean nothing because if you put anyone under a microscope there's always something that's not perfect. Often times, a bully will even invent things to pick on somebody for just because that person seems especially shy and timid. The whole thing is sickening. Delilah423I don't think bullying has anything to do with synastry. A bully is a bully regardless of who the victim is. arcturiannI've just come to realize recently that I've know a number of taurean bullies that were in my same grade as a kid, and that it is likely the sun opposite pluto aspect that makes them so quick to try and dominate others without regard for their feelings.Lavender CrystalSwanI'm thinking maybe the bully harshly aspecting the victim's Dejanira. Aubyanne quote:Originally posted by Delilah423:I don't think bullying has anything to do with synastry. A bully is a bully regardless of who the victim is. Sadly, I'm inclined to agree. This is just something you tend to learn over time and with experience. It's the overall misuse of energy, and it can be ANY energy. Certainly wish we could say there are markers, but I'm not sure there are. Perhaps, there are those who are more prone to being victimised -- but even then, that's dicey.Lavender CrystalSwan quote:Originally posted by Aubyanne: Sadly, I'm inclined to agree. This is just something you tend to learn over time and with experience. It's the overall [b]misuse of energy, and it can be ANY energy. Certainly wish we could say there are markers, but I'm not sure there are. Perhaps, there are those who are more prone to being victimised -- but even then, that's dicey.[/B] LeeLoo2014I think there are two types of bullying: - one in connection with the natal charts, in this case the bully bullies everyone they can- and "temporary" bullying generated by the synastry: a certain configuration can push a "bully" button in one of the natal charts (or both of them) otherwise not active. Certain people create a configuration that triggers the worst in us, making us confront our own shadow.------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...
Though there was one...I'm not sure she classifies as a bully (by classical definition, not the "the person makes me uncomfortable and therefore a bully" that's popular today), but she TRIED to bully me in a brow beating way, but I believe got frustrated that I simply didn't care, had I not been forced to sit next to her I wouldn't have paid attention to her at all. It was more out of self-righteousness rather than sadism, however, and I believe it was her Sag & Scorpio placements mixed with Chinese year of the dog (that likes to bark at those who seem bad for the group to drive them away) that just inspired her to be brutally honest with me and try to drive me away/make an example of me or correct my behavior (in her view). That is, she didn't come after me because it was fun for her but because I outraged her sensibilities (and perhaps disrupted her harmony).
The kicker is she was born on the same day at the same hospital as me (she also had a name nearly identical to mine which is how we were forced to sit next to each other in class). When that became known someone in the class asked if I'd stolen her pacifier or something back then given that she was always trying to give me a hard time, which the class thought was hilarious. So her chart would be at least near identical to mine, only the ascendant possibly different...though my Mercury is so close to Scorpio that her Mercury may have crossed all the way over (if she was born several hours later).
Saturn can indicate disapproval.
Mars can indicate aggression.
Pluto can indicate power-games.
In general I think bullying is an ugly thing. Bullies are looking for a false sense of superiority because they use arbitrary things to convince themselves they're better then the other person. You could pick any random thing to pick on someone for... The type of clothes they wear, the shape of a mole on their body, the way they speak. In reality things things mean nothing because if you put anyone under a microscope there's always something that's not perfect. Often times, a bully will even invent things to pick on somebody for just because that person seems especially shy and timid. The whole thing is sickening.
quote:Originally posted by Delilah423:I don't think bullying has anything to do with synastry. A bully is a bully regardless of who the victim is.
Sadly, I'm inclined to agree. This is just something you tend to learn over time and with experience. It's the overall misuse of energy, and it can be ANY energy. Certainly wish we could say there are markers, but I'm not sure there are. Perhaps, there are those who are more prone to being victimised -- but even then, that's dicey.
quote:Originally posted by Aubyanne: Sadly, I'm inclined to agree. This is just something you tend to learn over time and with experience. It's the overall [b]misuse of energy, and it can be ANY energy. Certainly wish we could say there are markers, but I'm not sure there are. Perhaps, there are those who are more prone to being victimised -- but even then, that's dicey.[/B]
- one in connection with the natal charts, in this case the bully bullies everyone they can- and "temporary" bullying generated by the synastry: a certain configuration can push a "bully" button in one of the natal charts (or both of them) otherwise not active. Certain people create a configuration that triggers the worst in us, making us confront our own shadow.
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