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T O P I C R E V I E WVirgo28Share your experiences.------------------"If a man does not work passionately - even furiously - at being the best in the world at what he does, he fails his talent, his destiny, and his God."AubyanneI've got it with my Guardian; his MERCURY, my PLUTO. In all fairness, he's an 8H MERC natally, so the square to PLUTO has more earnt his respect than anything. (My 3H MERC is in Scorpio, by the bye.) He's literally trained in mind-control and manipulation. Propaganda. Influence. Persuasion. I'm trained in how to detect and render it ineffectual. At the start, we quickly noted how we ran the risk of either unintentionally and subtly manipulating the other -- and just as speedily wrecking the other's trust -- so we've each been rather on our toes about it. Maybe it's led to a greater honesty than we might otherwise have had, despite it being our usual MO. Any ex-psywarrior will tell you, it does become second nature. And, as a former profiler, you're just as automatically on your guard against influence. Hardly a classic case, but that's been my experience.My PLUTO, 21°LIB'35, his MERC, 21°CAN'08. About 0°25 orb; within bounds of exact. My PLUTO is 2H, also, which adds another dynamic to his MERC in 8H.Virgo28 quote:Originally posted by Aubyanne:I've got it with my Guardian; his MERCURY, my PLUTO. In all fairness, he's an 8H MERC natally, so the square to PLUTO has more earnt his respect than anything. (My 3H MERC is in Scorpio, by the bye.) He's literally trained in mind-control and manipulation. Propaganda. Influence. Persuasion. I'm trained in how to detect and render it ineffectual. At the start, we quickly noted how we ran the risk of either unintentionally and subtly manipulating the other -- and just as speedily wrecking the other's trust -- so we've each been rather on our toes about it. Maybe it's led to a greater honesty than we might otherwise have had, despite it being our usual MO. Any ex-psywarrior will tell you, it does become second nature. And, as a former profiler, you're just as automatically on your guard against influence. Hardly a classic case, but that's been my experience.My PLUTO, 21°LIB'35, his MERC, 21°CAN'08. About 0°25 orb; within bounds of exact. My PLUTO is 2H, also, which adds another dynamic to his MERC in 8H.Did you feel annoy about his way of thinking?Did you wanted to change his way of thinking?------------------"If a man does not work passionately - even furiously - at being the best in the world at what he does, he fails his talent, his destiny, and his God."Aubyanne quote:Originally posted by Virgo28: Did you feel annoy about his way of thinking?Did you wanted to change his way of thinking?'Way of thinking' is a bit vague. There's the way we think about something -- literally -- or the more figurative form, which typically refers to a person's individual paradigms, ideas, and principles. The way is often determined by sign, element, and even mode. For example, they're both in Water for us, so we're (supposedly) more emotional in our verbal expression. Oddly, due to other factors in the natals, that's not quite so. However, we are both adept in the world of symbols, reading body language and the nonverbal cues around us. So the WAY he thinks -- the means by which he forms his thoughts, or conveys them -- I wouldn't change. Why do that? How terribly controlling. Who am I to decide another isn't 'thinking' properly? Unless there's a clear and definite mental illness which is wreaking havoc with their cognitive processes (schizophrenia, for example; delusions and 'word salads') there's no reason to change -- or want to alter -- the 'way another thinks'.Now, if we're talking paradigms and principles -- using the figurative form, 'the way someone thinks about X' -- that's entirely different. Ideology, politics, or credo, for example.
------------------"If a man does not work passionately - even furiously - at being the best in the world at what he does, he fails his talent, his destiny, and his God."
At the start, we quickly noted how we ran the risk of either unintentionally and subtly manipulating the other -- and just as speedily wrecking the other's trust -- so we've each been rather on our toes about it. Maybe it's led to a greater honesty than we might otherwise have had, despite it being our usual MO. Any ex-psywarrior will tell you, it does become second nature. And, as a former profiler, you're just as automatically on your guard against influence.
Hardly a classic case, but that's been my experience.
My PLUTO, 21°LIB'35, his MERC, 21°CAN'08. About 0°25 orb; within bounds of exact. My PLUTO is 2H, also, which adds another dynamic to his MERC in 8H.
quote:Originally posted by Aubyanne:I've got it with my Guardian; his MERCURY, my PLUTO. In all fairness, he's an 8H MERC natally, so the square to PLUTO has more earnt his respect than anything. (My 3H MERC is in Scorpio, by the bye.) He's literally trained in mind-control and manipulation. Propaganda. Influence. Persuasion. I'm trained in how to detect and render it ineffectual. At the start, we quickly noted how we ran the risk of either unintentionally and subtly manipulating the other -- and just as speedily wrecking the other's trust -- so we've each been rather on our toes about it. Maybe it's led to a greater honesty than we might otherwise have had, despite it being our usual MO. Any ex-psywarrior will tell you, it does become second nature. And, as a former profiler, you're just as automatically on your guard against influence. Hardly a classic case, but that's been my experience.My PLUTO, 21°LIB'35, his MERC, 21°CAN'08. About 0°25 orb; within bounds of exact. My PLUTO is 2H, also, which adds another dynamic to his MERC in 8H.
Did you feel annoy about his way of thinking?
Did you wanted to change his way of thinking?
quote:Originally posted by Virgo28: Did you feel annoy about his way of thinking?Did you wanted to change his way of thinking?
'Way of thinking' is a bit vague. There's the way we think about something -- literally -- or the more figurative form, which typically refers to a person's individual paradigms, ideas, and principles.
The way is often determined by sign, element, and even mode. For example, they're both in Water for us, so we're (supposedly) more emotional in our verbal expression. Oddly, due to other factors in the natals, that's not quite so. However, we are both adept in the world of symbols, reading body language and the nonverbal cues around us.
So the WAY he thinks -- the means by which he forms his thoughts, or conveys them -- I wouldn't change. Why do that? How terribly controlling. Who am I to decide another isn't 'thinking' properly? Unless there's a clear and definite mental illness which is wreaking havoc with their cognitive processes (schizophrenia, for example; delusions and 'word salads') there's no reason to change -- or want to alter -- the 'way another thinks'.
Now, if we're talking paradigms and principles -- using the figurative form, 'the way someone thinks about X' -- that's entirely different. Ideology, politics, or credo, for example.
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