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T O P I C R E V I E WVenusincap89deletedpage oneI see her Venus conjuncts your Lilith and Juno, which squares Venus in your natal. Do you have trouble trusting women in relationships?ETA: On examining the synastry further, I see that not only does her Venus conjunct your Juno and Lilith, squaring your Venus, but her Moon conjuncts your Chiron and opposes your Saturn. If you are asking if her natal suggests she's untrustworthy, no I don't think it does. However her planets are hitting some sensitive places in your chart. Venusincap89Yes I do have very hard time trusting women...and it's very scary in a sense that my instincts have always served me right in most cases.In this case, my instincts tell me that shes trust worthy when it comes to critical and decisive factors, but i also feel like other small factors can be considerable factor as well.. I can't explain it too well.Thank you for your response, it confirms that she is indeed trustworthy.How does her planets hit my sensitive places in my chart? Any advices?I would like to know if that would have any effects on long-term stabilitypage one quote:Originally posted by Venusincap89: Yes I do have very hard time trusting women...and it's very scary in a sense that my instincts have always served me right in most cases.In this case, my instincts tell me that shes trust worthy when it comes to critical and decisive factors, but i also feel like other small factors can be considerable factor as well.. I can't explain it too well.Thank you for your response, it confirms that she is indeed trustworthy.How does her planets hit my sensitive places in my chart? Any advices?I would like to know if that would have any effects on long-term stabilityThe sensitive points I'm seeing are those I have mentioned: The Juno-Lilith square to your Venus, and her Moon opposing your Saturn (and Neptune!) and conjunction your Chiron. I think it's a question of building trust in spite of the vulnerability you feel, because it is precisely these contacts that make for a powerful connection.Venusincap89Wait I think my own juno squares my venus?I don't think my juno square her synastry or vice versapage one quote:Originally posted by Venusincap89:Wait I think my own juno squares my venus?I don't think my juno square her synastry or vice versaYour Juno conjuncts her Venus, and squares your own Venus, and both your Venuses are squared.Venusincap89But doesn't her venus conjunct rahu mean anything?Venusincap89Also, can anyone please tell me who has more plutonic energy here?Aubyanne quote:Originally posted by Venusincap89:Also, can anyone please tell me who has more plutonic energy here?SUN conjunct PLUTO's gonna win that one every time. I know, you've got MARS-PLUTO, and I'd never discount its power, but the SUN is the core. She's on a Plutonian journey.Incidentally -- you ever get the feeling she's working out some daddy issues with you? That 8H/6H VERTEX-PALLAS looks exact. Then you've got a MOON-CHIRON in synastry, on top of that, with your MC on her PALLAS.Venusincap89 quote:Originally posted by Aubyanne: SUN conjunct PLUTO's gonna win that one every time. I know, you've got MARS-PLUTO, and I'd never discount its power, but the SUN is the core. She's on a Plutonian journey.Incidentally -- you ever get the feeling she's working out some daddy issues with you? That 8H/6H VERTEX-PALLAS looks exact. Then you've got a MOON-CHIRON in synastry, on top of that, with your MC on her PALLAS.oh man.. so she's more plutonian than i am after all...I've never felt that she was working out daddy issues with me butI definitely felt moon-chiron synastry effects - she reminds me of many deep painful memoriesI have no idea how VERTEX-PALLAS synastry works and MC-Pallas worksplease tell meVenusincap89deletedPretty Theft quote:I've never felt that she was working out daddy issues with me butI definitely felt moon-chiron synastry effects - she reminds me of many deep painful memoriesYup. It sounds like she's hitting sensitive points and you're feeling insecure and as a result, you're trying to control her. Well ... people don't like being controlled. Your tone throughout this thread has sounded to me to be very critical and disapproving of her -- there is simply not enough warmth.Sounds like Daddy (Saturn) to me. You can either have a long talk with her about your trust issues (this could lead to a breakup, but if you can frame it in a way where it's your issue, not hers, you might get somewhere) or you can continue asking people about asteroids and avoid taking steps to solve your relationship.I'm sorry if this sounds harsh but the interpersonal issues you are describing are not solvable through an astrology forum. They can only be solved by talking to the person you are with. Venusincap89 quote:Originally posted by Pretty Theft: Yup. It sounds like she's hitting sensitive points and you're feeling insecure and as a result, you're trying to control her. Well ... people don't like being controlled. Your tone throughout this thread has sounded to me to be very critical and disapproving of her -- there is simply not enough warmth.Sounds like Daddy (Saturn) to me. You can either have a long talk with her about your trust issues (this could lead to a breakup, but if you can frame it in a way where it's your issue, not hers, you might get somewhere) or you can continue asking people about asteroids and avoid taking steps to solve your relationship.I'm sorry if this sounds harsh but the interpersonal issues you are describing are not solvable through an astrology forum. They can only be solved by talking to the person you are with. Not harsh at all! I sincerely appreciate rational advices like that!I had the long talk with her, and hopefully she does indeed keep her promises this time.And as you have advised, I also raised the concern in terms of my issue, my fault.Hopefully it leads somewhereOnce again, thank you so much!Pretty Theft quote:Originally posted by Venusincap89: Not harsh at all! I sincerely appreciate rational advices like that!I had the long talk with her, and hopefully she does indeed keep her promises this time.And as you have advised, I also raised the concern in terms of my issue, my fault.Hopefully it leads somewhereOnce again, thank you so much!I hope it works out for you! I know it's not easy having a Venus in Capricorn. Sometimes you guys outdo Mars in Scorpio in paranoia (and you have a Mars-Pluto connection too!).Am I right in assuming this is a long-distance relationship? Have you two met in person?Keep in mind that until you have met I don't think we can put much stock in the composite chart. Until we get you in a room together we can really only address the natals and synastry.Venusincap89deletedPretty TheftThank you for your clarifications! Unfortunately I think I have bad news for you. Based on what you've told me -- especially her admittance that she takes you for granted, and the fact that you only spent 2 hours with her when she was ostensibly visiting you -- I simply don't see this working out. She is so young. And she is not taking you seriously. Venus in Cap needs commitment, integrity and reliability. You are an independent soul, despite your Cap Venus, and you need to know someone is reliably there while you go off and do your thing. That's why there is this push-pull thing going on. With her major Plutonian placements, she may not feel secure and all of this could be a test. Well, you can play that game ... or in my opinion, cut your losses.Long distance relationships suck. I know that Capricorn is a classic pessimist -- but I think you are correct in not trusting her devotion. I don't know what else you can do because I think her issue is that she wants to own someone, body and soul, and be in control -- based on her chart -- and her basic insecurity is feeding into her behavior towards you.The happiest composites and synastry charts can fall apart if either person is simply not prepared for it. I do not think she is, but I think you are. You are the mature one.I'm not saying, break up, necessarily, but keep it in mind in your interactions. The 4th house can create a very, very strong bond for people who are not necessarily good for each other. Good luck. Venusincap89 quote:Originally posted by Pretty Theft:Thank you for your clarifications! Unfortunately I think I have bad news for you. Based on what you've told me -- especially her admittance that she takes you for granted, and the fact that you only spent 2 hours with her when she was ostensibly visiting you -- I simply don't see this working out. She is so young. And she is not taking you seriously. Venus in Cap needs commitment, integrity and reliability. You are an independent soul, despite your Cap Venus, and you need to know someone is reliably there while you go off and do your thing. That's why there is this push-pull thing going on. With her major Plutonian placements, she may not feel secure and all of this could be a test. Well, you can play that game ... or in my opinion, cut your losses.Long distance relationships suck. I know that Capricorn is a classic pessimist -- but I think you are correct in not trusting her devotion. I don't know what else you can do because I think her issue is that she wants to own someone, body and soul, and be in control -- based on her chart -- and her basic insecurity is feeding into her behavior towards you.The happiest composites and synastry charts can fall apart if either person is simply not prepared for it. I do not think she is, but I think you are. You are the mature one.I'm not saying, break up, necessarily, but keep it in mind in your interactions. The 4th house can create a very, very strong bond for people who are not necessarily good for each other. Good luck. Thank you very much! Hopefully she does keep her promises this time xDVenusincap89Update:Things have gotten much better between us, I feel that bond is strengthened between us. And she is in fact showing significant efforts to make me feel satisfied.However, it turns out that I have also reminded her of some painful memories from her past.For example, We both have Dejanaira conjunct Child by 5 degrees...Consequently, I came to feel ashamed for being unaware of her painful memories and I now sincerely feel ashamed for pressuring her with my little needs that weren't so important when looking at the bigger picture.It feels like I should no longer look to defend my little ego and needs, and look to serve the greater purpose that this relationship offers...However, as shown by my past experiences, I could be simply getting too ahead of myself.Am i reading this right?
ETA: On examining the synastry further, I see that not only does her Venus conjunct your Juno and Lilith, squaring your Venus, but her Moon conjuncts your Chiron and opposes your Saturn. If you are asking if her natal suggests she's untrustworthy, no I don't think it does. However her planets are hitting some sensitive places in your chart.
How does her planets hit my sensitive places in my chart? Any advices?I would like to know if that would have any effects on long-term stability
quote:Originally posted by Venusincap89: Yes I do have very hard time trusting women...and it's very scary in a sense that my instincts have always served me right in most cases.In this case, my instincts tell me that shes trust worthy when it comes to critical and decisive factors, but i also feel like other small factors can be considerable factor as well.. I can't explain it too well.Thank you for your response, it confirms that she is indeed trustworthy.How does her planets hit my sensitive places in my chart? Any advices?I would like to know if that would have any effects on long-term stability
The sensitive points I'm seeing are those I have mentioned: The Juno-Lilith square to your Venus, and her Moon opposing your Saturn (and Neptune!) and conjunction your Chiron. I think it's a question of building trust in spite of the vulnerability you feel, because it is precisely these contacts that make for a powerful connection.
quote:Originally posted by Venusincap89:Wait I think my own juno squares my venus?I don't think my juno square her synastry or vice versa
Your Juno conjuncts her Venus, and squares your own Venus, and both your Venuses are squared.
quote:Originally posted by Venusincap89:Also, can anyone please tell me who has more plutonic energy here?
SUN conjunct PLUTO's gonna win that one every time. I know, you've got MARS-PLUTO, and I'd never discount its power, but the SUN is the core. She's on a Plutonian journey.
Incidentally -- you ever get the feeling she's working out some daddy issues with you? That 8H/6H VERTEX-PALLAS looks exact. Then you've got a MOON-CHIRON in synastry, on top of that, with your MC on her PALLAS.
quote:Originally posted by Aubyanne: SUN conjunct PLUTO's gonna win that one every time. I know, you've got MARS-PLUTO, and I'd never discount its power, but the SUN is the core. She's on a Plutonian journey.Incidentally -- you ever get the feeling she's working out some daddy issues with you? That 8H/6H VERTEX-PALLAS looks exact. Then you've got a MOON-CHIRON in synastry, on top of that, with your MC on her PALLAS.
oh man.. so she's more plutonian than i am after all...
I've never felt that she was working out daddy issues with me butI definitely felt moon-chiron synastry effects - she reminds me of many deep painful memories
I have no idea how VERTEX-PALLAS synastry works and MC-Pallas works
please tell me
quote:I've never felt that she was working out daddy issues with me butI definitely felt moon-chiron synastry effects - she reminds me of many deep painful memories
Yup. It sounds like she's hitting sensitive points and you're feeling insecure and as a result, you're trying to control her. Well ... people don't like being controlled. Your tone throughout this thread has sounded to me to be very critical and disapproving of her -- there is simply not enough warmth.
Sounds like Daddy (Saturn) to me. You can either have a long talk with her about your trust issues (this could lead to a breakup, but if you can frame it in a way where it's your issue, not hers, you might get somewhere) or you can continue asking people about asteroids and avoid taking steps to solve your relationship.
I'm sorry if this sounds harsh but the interpersonal issues you are describing are not solvable through an astrology forum. They can only be solved by talking to the person you are with.
quote:Originally posted by Pretty Theft: Yup. It sounds like she's hitting sensitive points and you're feeling insecure and as a result, you're trying to control her. Well ... people don't like being controlled. Your tone throughout this thread has sounded to me to be very critical and disapproving of her -- there is simply not enough warmth.Sounds like Daddy (Saturn) to me. You can either have a long talk with her about your trust issues (this could lead to a breakup, but if you can frame it in a way where it's your issue, not hers, you might get somewhere) or you can continue asking people about asteroids and avoid taking steps to solve your relationship.I'm sorry if this sounds harsh but the interpersonal issues you are describing are not solvable through an astrology forum. They can only be solved by talking to the person you are with.
Not harsh at all! I sincerely appreciate rational advices like that!I had the long talk with her, and hopefully she does indeed keep her promises this time.And as you have advised, I also raised the concern in terms of my issue, my fault.
Hopefully it leads somewhereOnce again, thank you so much!
quote:Originally posted by Venusincap89: Not harsh at all! I sincerely appreciate rational advices like that!I had the long talk with her, and hopefully she does indeed keep her promises this time.And as you have advised, I also raised the concern in terms of my issue, my fault.Hopefully it leads somewhereOnce again, thank you so much!
I hope it works out for you! I know it's not easy having a Venus in Capricorn. Sometimes you guys outdo Mars in Scorpio in paranoia (and you have a Mars-Pluto connection too!).
Am I right in assuming this is a long-distance relationship? Have you two met in person?
Keep in mind that until you have met I don't think we can put much stock in the composite chart. Until we get you in a room together we can really only address the natals and synastry.
Long distance relationships suck. I know that Capricorn is a classic pessimist -- but I think you are correct in not trusting her devotion. I don't know what else you can do because I think her issue is that she wants to own someone, body and soul, and be in control -- based on her chart -- and her basic insecurity is feeding into her behavior towards you.
The happiest composites and synastry charts can fall apart if either person is simply not prepared for it. I do not think she is, but I think you are. You are the mature one.
I'm not saying, break up, necessarily, but keep it in mind in your interactions. The 4th house can create a very, very strong bond for people who are not necessarily good for each other.
Good luck.
quote:Originally posted by Pretty Theft:Thank you for your clarifications! Unfortunately I think I have bad news for you. Based on what you've told me -- especially her admittance that she takes you for granted, and the fact that you only spent 2 hours with her when she was ostensibly visiting you -- I simply don't see this working out. She is so young. And she is not taking you seriously. Venus in Cap needs commitment, integrity and reliability. You are an independent soul, despite your Cap Venus, and you need to know someone is reliably there while you go off and do your thing. That's why there is this push-pull thing going on. With her major Plutonian placements, she may not feel secure and all of this could be a test. Well, you can play that game ... or in my opinion, cut your losses.Long distance relationships suck. I know that Capricorn is a classic pessimist -- but I think you are correct in not trusting her devotion. I don't know what else you can do because I think her issue is that she wants to own someone, body and soul, and be in control -- based on her chart -- and her basic insecurity is feeding into her behavior towards you.The happiest composites and synastry charts can fall apart if either person is simply not prepared for it. I do not think she is, but I think you are. You are the mature one.I'm not saying, break up, necessarily, but keep it in mind in your interactions. The 4th house can create a very, very strong bond for people who are not necessarily good for each other. Good luck.
Thank you very much! Hopefully she does keep her promises this time xD
However, it turns out that I have also reminded her of some painful memories from her past.For example, We both have Dejanaira conjunct Child by 5 degrees...
Consequently, I came to feel ashamed for being unaware of her painful memories and I now sincerely feel ashamed for pressuring her with my little needs that weren't so important when looking at the bigger picture.
It feels like I should no longer look to defend my little ego and needs, and look to serve the greater purpose that this relationship offers...
However, as shown by my past experiences, I could be simply getting too ahead of myself.Am i reading this right?
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