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T O P I C R E V I E WueharaaHow important is kaali in a natal chart (house ,sign and aspects) ?Lately I've been trying to understand the saturn (6th house) - chiron (12th house) opposition I have in my natal chart and this has led me to kaali since kaali conjuncts chiron. The aspects it makes are such:kaali conjuncts chironkaali trines plutokaali opposes saturnkaali opposes karmaFrom what I've read and understood, kaali represents our kundalini energy. But' I'm having a hard time understanding the different aspects and the house placement of kaali.And how would it play out in synastry if someone's personal planets aspects your kaali or you aspects theirs ? What could it be indicative of?AelineI second that. I've got Kaali conjunct my Sun in 2nd house. Maybe that would make me receptive of some kind of energy Kaali represents.In case of Kaali conjunct Chiron.. hm. I'd say you could use its energy to heal yourself from the wounds you may have had in the past that still holds you. ueharaaI had never thought about using kaali to actually heal the wound that never heals! Mine is in the 12th house though so I should have a hard time accessing it. I'm curious: how would you describe your sun conjuncts kaali? It seems to be a pretty intense natal aspect and must play a large part in your daily life and identity (just as any asteroids that conjunct sun or moon). I'm asking because I have a VERY hard time only grasping the meaning and manifestation of kaali. AelineHonestly? I don't know how that particularly affects me, because i have Sun also conjunct Medea, my Moon is conjunct Hekate, SN conjunct Circe and IC conjunct Lilith, so the complect is right there. From what i've read, i could say - maybe Kaali conjunct Sun let me remember and see my past lives? (which i do). But then again, it could be my Moon in 12th. I can never be sure for that. Kaali also deals with Kundalini energy and i can say that yes, i actually work with energy flows, with chakra system. And i'm pretty good at it, as energy can be sensed through my hands even when putting it to a photo. So maybe that's it. AelineHonestly? I don't know how that particularly affects me, because i have Sun also conjunct Medea, my Moon is conjunct Hekate, SN conjunct Circe and IC conjunct Lilith, so the complect is right there. From what i've read, i could say - maybe Kaali conjunct Sun let me remember and see my past lives? (which i do). But then again, it could be my Moon in 12th. I can never be sure for that. Kaali also deals with Kundalini energy and i can say that yes, i actually work with energy flows, with chakra system. And i'm pretty good at it, as energy can be sensed through my hands even when putting it to a photo. So maybe that's it. ueharaaYes it certainly does make a lot of sense that it would allow you to see your past lives. And especially if you can sense energy through your hands. I wonder how kaali aspects would work in synastry.Ami AnneI love Kaali. I don't believe in past lives as I am a Born Again Christian and we believe once is it However, Kaali is one;s basic energy system. It does very profound things in the chart. What it touches becomes a very integral part of yourself. The same goes for synastryAmi AnneI will put up my articles if I can find them. My earth void drives me crazy ------------------Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ueharaa quote:Originally posted by Ami Anne:I love Kaali. I don't believe in past lives as I am a Born Again Christian and we believe once is it However, Kaali is one;s basic energy system. It does very profound things in the chart. What it touches becomes a very integral part of yourself. The same goes for synastryThanks Ami Anne! What you wrote is very enlightening. I think you really "grasped" kaali by defining what it touches as a very integral part of oneself. It is true for me at least. Themes of pain, suffering and healing has constantly surrounded me. And I honestly admit that I need to be in touch with this side of life to have some balance. It certainly fits Kaali conjunct Chiron in my chart. Now I would see the opposition to saturn and karma as a challenge. Meaning that I need to integrate saturn's lessons as a part of myself but it won't come easy (and that's what I'm trying to do right now but it is very difficult)I guess in synastry then, if someone touches your kaali especially conjuncts, the manifestation of their planets is something you can identify with, or maybe something you need on a deep level to feel there is meaning ? ShyVirgo1979Hey I started a thread abt this a few months ago and no one responded so thank u for this! As I haven't been wondering exactly what ur asking. I'm trying to get a feel for kaali....So in my natal its conjunct pluto with a 1 degree orb. So it energizies pluto? What does that mean exactly?Another example. In synastry with an ex, my kaali is conjunct HIS pluto. 0 degree orb. So how does that play out?Also in that synastry his kaali is conjunct my AMOR. I'm not as familiar with that asteriod. So the amor gets energized? And who feels what concerning that? Any help?? Lol ueharaaThe way I understand kaali I would say that plutonian themes such as intensity, tansformation, depth and deat/rebirth, power, are very present in your life and in your inner emotional/psychological make-up? I would think that it energizes your Pluto and makes it prominent in a subtle, subconscious way. I'm even tempted to say that maybe you would feel alive when you can express your Pluto or when people allow you to express it (can you relate?)Now in synastry, it's a bit tricky to know who empowers who with kaali. It certainly goes both way but maybe the empowering is different whether you're the kaali person or not. I'm pretty sure it is indicative of some kind of connection but *which* kind of connection I don't know. From what I've read in previous threads covering Kaali in synastry, venus-kaali aspect in synastry can be a sign of tantric sex. But I didn't find any info on other planets and other prominent asteroids in aspect to kaali. But with Ami Anne's insightful input, I understand that if you touch someone's kaali in synastry then the way you express this planet/asteroid becomes an integral part of this person, maybe you trigger a part of themselves they're not really aware of but which is very powerful?Squares and oppositions could mean that you're trying to integrate this energy but there are some tension in doing so. iQSun conjunct Kaali is a very powerful aspect. Many Royals have this aspect. This aspect allows the magnification of Ego using Kundalini Energy. When Kundalini goes off balance and becomes over-emotional, the person can lose his Auric Protection and become a victim of Astral Programming.So many with "Monarch Slave" Programming have aspects like Ascendant, Moon or Sun conjunct Kaali. If they are weak, they become the best slaves for the strong occultists. I listed dozens of celebrities with such aspects, I think it is in the "Spider Line" Forum.Even Draconic Kaali conjunct Sun has such powerful effects.For those aware of past lifelines, Sun conjunct Kaali is a tactical reward aspect where you have done enough spiritual work to merit a strong and accessible Kundalini Energy, without need for advanced Yoga to activate Kundalini.The secret of using Kundalini Energy is to NOT abuse it. One must ground onerself and allow the Energy to flow through the chakras safely without pressure. One must minimize celebrity errors of greed/egotism, and this in turn will prevent insanity, Astral programming and even the "sudden deaths from drug overdose".With safe flowing of Kundalini, manifestation through LOA will be exponentially fast. One must use manifestation more and more for others, and thus escape any trap of karmic attachments.------------------ Astrology Articles New Services and short readings mockingbirdMy husband's nKaali is conjunct (2d) my Natal Sun.So, I'm going to guess we have some serious Karmic stuff going on...?Edited to add: In composite, it's the only thing in our 1st House.------------------If I've included this sig, it's because I'm posting from a mobile device. Please excuse all outrageous typos and confusing auto-corrects.anno_lucisgoing through a kaali trine kaali transit atm.#noego#justsayin quote:Originally posted by mockingbird:My husband's nKaali is conjunct (2d) my Natal Sun.So, I'm going to guess we have some serious Karmic stuff going on...?Edited to add: In composite, it's the only thing in our 1st House.could be he triggers some kundalini rising or, at least has a strong energetical affect on you. could just be that you share a spine tingling connection.do you? mockingbirdWe do And he say that he feels more "manly" and centered around me, but my nMars also trines his nMars/nVenus and nMoon.------------------If I've included this sig, it's because I'm posting from a mobile device. Please excuse all outrageous typos and confusing auto-corrects.KarkaQueenI have a man's Kaali conjunct my Moon exact. Scary.ail221Natal:Kaali sq MoonMars/Uranus trine KaaliFomalhaut opp Kaali/Regina 1Kaali conjunct Aphrodite,Angel,Regina,and HypnosIn synastry:With one of my friends My Kaali conjunct his Venus under 2 orbs This was the first time I met the person and I could actually feel the energy in the air very odd feeling as if we knew each other before we actually met one another.KeroseneI have kaali sextile venus 0 degrees in my natal chart.I'm very curious about this asteroid!Mainly because I've been doing kundalini yoga for about a year and a half, my instructor introduced me to it.It around the time venus was transiting over my natal kaali, weird..Can someone elaborate on this aspect?littlefrenchyHi, I have Kaali conjunct South Node in natal, and Siva conjunct Descendantnot goog I supposeI don't understand the real meaning of all this... because hindouism is not my culture, I am a christian and want to reject the concept of past lives and all this kind of things... Yet, in spite I don't understand them and even sometimes reject them in defiance , I have the intimate feeling/conviction that all this has a meaning, but which one ? that something is true in all this ...but what ? Very disturbing dilemn for me ... I'd like not to believe in all this, but to be honest with myself the truth is that a part of me is really convinced that this Kaali/South node and this Shiva/Desc have a undeniable link with my natural tendency (since early childhood) to be naturally very interested in ,and gifted for, esoterism and even occultism, two things that my christianity reject violently, but another part of me go to.I begin to wonder .... perhaps past lives do really are a reality ? perhaps there is really something true in all this? perhaps I was born with a negative "karma" luggage that leads me to the occult, in spite I reject it today in my christianity ?and supposing it is true, what way I am supposed to take in this life ? which one is the good one ? it worries me a lotMoreover, I feel deep (and true) love and attraction for a man I can't have, and always had the impression I know him intimitely and have a spiritual link with this person. After years of impossible love (30 years),I finally discovered last year that this person has his Neptune + asteroid Atlantis + his asteroid karma + his asteroid Isis, + his asteroid Osiris, all of them , conjunct on my South Node/kaali. The whole is stuck within three degrees, never moreIt is just frightening He also has his Sphinx exact on my North Node. My siva.desc conjunct his lilith, my lilith house 12 is on his NN. We have a double whammy vertex/jupiter. His Pluto on my Sun increases my feeling of fatedness, an attractiveness I will be able to fight against. But do I really want to ?the symbolism of Kaali, if I could really understand it, would probably give me a key to understand what ties my soul to this man's soul, but this Hindu culture is so complex and contradictory I understand nothing All this is very disturbing and frightening for me sorry to disturb , I had to tell the storythank you for the site and please forgive my bad english ! OracleI believe in past lives because some of us have lived before. The Christ is believed to be the Melchizedek who gave Abraham silver before he departed with his wife Sarai to Canaan. All the major and minor prophets of the bible lived before. So claiming to be Christian does not mean past lives do not exist or don't happen to people. People who have reincarnated can not regress as many claimed to have done. The only person that has regressed is the Christ himself.John Chapter 3:151 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and [of] the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you [of] heavenly things?13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, [even] the Son of man which is in heaven.14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.Titus 3:5 - Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;2 Corinthians 5:17 - Therefore if any man [be] in Christ, [he is] a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.RandallMoving to Interpersonal Astrology.3l3nI have Kaali conjuct Jupiter h1 Cancer in my natal. Thankfully someone here a couple of weeks ago helped me to understand a little something about Kaali and kundalini energy.Seeing this subject again made me look at the synastry of me and an ex.. We have Kaali conjuct Kaali! There is a strong energy that flows between us that's for sure. and many times a very fierce energy that gets out of hand from time to time. I had never put Kaali in our synastry.. Now I better understand some unexplained strong energies that flow between us. Thanx
From what I've read and understood, kaali represents our kundalini energy. But' I'm having a hard time understanding the different aspects and the house placement of kaali.And how would it play out in synastry if someone's personal planets aspects your kaali or you aspects theirs ? What could it be indicative of?
In case of Kaali conjunct Chiron.. hm. I'd say you could use its energy to heal yourself from the wounds you may have had in the past that still holds you.
I'm curious: how would you describe your sun conjuncts kaali? It seems to be a pretty intense natal aspect and must play a large part in your daily life and identity (just as any asteroids that conjunct sun or moon). I'm asking because I have a VERY hard time only grasping the meaning and manifestation of kaali.
From what i've read, i could say - maybe Kaali conjunct Sun let me remember and see my past lives? (which i do). But then again, it could be my Moon in 12th. I can never be sure for that.
Kaali also deals with Kundalini energy and i can say that yes, i actually work with energy flows, with chakra system. And i'm pretty good at it, as energy can be sensed through my hands even when putting it to a photo. So maybe that's it.
I wonder how kaali aspects would work in synastry.
However, Kaali is one;s basic energy system. It does very profound things in the chart. What it touches becomes a very integral part of yourself. The same goes for synastry
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quote:Originally posted by Ami Anne:I love Kaali. I don't believe in past lives as I am a Born Again Christian and we believe once is it However, Kaali is one;s basic energy system. It does very profound things in the chart. What it touches becomes a very integral part of yourself. The same goes for synastry
Thanks Ami Anne! What you wrote is very enlightening. I think you really "grasped" kaali by defining what it touches as a very integral part of oneself. It is true for me at least. Themes of pain, suffering and healing has constantly surrounded me. And I honestly admit that I need to be in touch with this side of life to have some balance. It certainly fits Kaali conjunct Chiron in my chart. Now I would see the opposition to saturn and karma as a challenge. Meaning that I need to integrate saturn's lessons as a part of myself but it won't come easy (and that's what I'm trying to do right now but it is very difficult)
I guess in synastry then, if someone touches your kaali especially conjuncts, the manifestation of their planets is something you can identify with, or maybe something you need on a deep level to feel there is meaning ?
So in my natal its conjunct pluto with a 1 degree orb. So it energizies pluto? What does that mean exactly?
Another example. In synastry with an ex, my kaali is conjunct HIS pluto. 0 degree orb. So how does that play out?
Also in that synastry his kaali is conjunct my AMOR. I'm not as familiar with that asteriod. So the amor gets energized? And who feels what concerning that? Any help?? Lol
But with Ami Anne's insightful input, I understand that if you touch someone's kaali in synastry then the way you express this planet/asteroid becomes an integral part of this person, maybe you trigger a part of themselves they're not really aware of but which is very powerful?Squares and oppositions could mean that you're trying to integrate this energy but there are some tension in doing so.
For those aware of past lifelines, Sun conjunct Kaali is a tactical reward aspect where you have done enough spiritual work to merit a strong and accessible Kundalini Energy, without need for advanced Yoga to activate Kundalini.
The secret of using Kundalini Energy is to NOT abuse it. One must ground onerself and allow the Energy to flow through the chakras safely without pressure. One must minimize celebrity errors of greed/egotism, and this in turn will prevent insanity, Astral programming and even the "sudden deaths from drug overdose".
With safe flowing of Kundalini, manifestation through LOA will be exponentially fast. One must use manifestation more and more for others, and thus escape any trap of karmic attachments.
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Edited to add: In composite, it's the only thing in our 1st House.------------------If I've included this sig, it's because I'm posting from a mobile device. Please excuse all outrageous typos and confusing auto-corrects.
quote:Originally posted by mockingbird:My husband's nKaali is conjunct (2d) my Natal Sun.So, I'm going to guess we have some serious Karmic stuff going on...?Edited to add: In composite, it's the only thing in our 1st House.
Edited to add: In composite, it's the only thing in our 1st House.
And he say that he feels more "manly" and centered around me, but my nMars also trines his nMars/nVenus and nMoon.
------------------If I've included this sig, it's because I'm posting from a mobile device. Please excuse all outrageous typos and confusing auto-corrects.
In synastry:With one of my friends My Kaali conjunct his Venus under 2 orbs
This was the first time I met the person and I could actually feel the energy in the air very odd feeling as if we knew each other before we actually met one another.
not goog I suppose
I don't understand the real meaning of all this... because hindouism is not my culture, I am a christian and want to reject the concept of past lives and all this kind of things... Yet, in spite I don't understand them and even sometimes reject them in defiance , I have the intimate feeling/conviction that all this has a meaning, but which one ? that something is true in all this ...but what ? Very disturbing dilemn for me ... I'd like not to believe in all this, but to be honest with myself the truth is that a part of me is really convinced that this Kaali/South node and this Shiva/Desc have a undeniable link with my natural tendency (since early childhood) to be naturally very interested in ,and gifted for, esoterism and even occultism, two things that my christianity reject violently, but another part of me go to.
I begin to wonder .... perhaps past lives do really are a reality ? perhaps there is really something true in all this? perhaps I was born with a negative "karma" luggage that leads me to the occult, in spite I reject it today in my christianity ?and supposing it is true, what way I am supposed to take in this life ? which one is the good one ? it worries me a lotMoreover, I feel deep (and true) love and attraction for a man I can't have, and always had the impression I know him intimitely and have a spiritual link with this person. After years of impossible love (30 years),I finally discovered last year that this person has his Neptune + asteroid Atlantis + his asteroid karma + his asteroid Isis, + his asteroid Osiris, all of them , conjunct on my South Node/kaali. The whole is stuck within three degrees, never moreIt is just frightening
He also has his Sphinx exact on my North Node. My siva.desc conjunct his lilith, my lilith house 12 is on his NN. We have a double whammy vertex/jupiter. His Pluto on my Sun increases my feeling of fatedness, an attractiveness I will be able to fight against. But do I really want to ?
the symbolism of Kaali, if I could really understand it, would probably give me a key to understand what ties my soul to this man's soul, but this Hindu culture is so complex and contradictory I understand nothing
All this is very disturbing and frightening for me sorry to disturb , I had to tell the story
thank you for the site and please forgive my bad english !
John Chapter 3:151 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and [of] the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?
10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?
11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.
12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you [of] heavenly things?
13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, [even] the Son of man which is in heaven.
14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
Titus 3:5 - Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
2 Corinthians 5:17 - Therefore if any man [be] in Christ, [he is] a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
Seeing this subject again made me look at the synastry of me and an ex.. We have Kaali conjuct Kaali! There is a strong energy that flows between us that's for sure. and many times a very fierce energy that gets out of hand from time to time. I had never put Kaali in our synastry.. Now I better understand some unexplained strong energies that flow between us. Thanx
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