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T O P I C R E V I E WStill_HopefulHi!, I was doing some research on Moon Nodes (SN and NN) and their conjunction/opposition to MC or IC. Unfortunately I could not find a lot of information on the InternetI have this aspect with someone in my life. The connection is not good but it seems to be somehow "fated" If you will.Can you comment on that?Example: NN of person A conjunct MC Of person Band SN conjunct IC.I know the degree should be pretty close in my case it is 1 degree.SaggiMCNodes are very karmic in synastry, but you have to look at the overall picture. Plus you should posts the syn bi wheel and natals in PR forum...Basic astrology forum, How to approach Synastry http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000667.html To enter this forum you need an extra password – astrology….Please remember to reduce the orb ratio down to 40% (ONLY for syn bi wheel) as the max orb between planets is 3'. To enter this forum you need an extra password – astrology….Composite should be 85% orbswhen you get this chart, please also post the *pdf file*, above left of chart look for *view additional tables (PDF)* This will bring up 2pages –at a glance planet to planet. Scroll down to last page and *aspect grid* (ONLY for syn bi wheel) THIS is very important as it seems to show more aspects than is visible on the bi wheel…problem is uploading to photobucket you have to change this from abode format into a picture. This is done by getting the relevant page/grid/bit in front of you,on screen then( if bit big press ctrl and - to reduce image). the press ‘prtsc sysrq’ - top row inbetween pause break and F12. This has copied to clipboard. Paste into Paint or some other photo software. Crop the picture and save to hard drive, then upload to photobucket, select chart press IMG and past link into thread.... done ------------------I love the parable, “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.”appleberryI also had a relationship with his NN close conjunct (1*) my MC. Very fated relationship. It did affect my career-life significantly but he also affected and still does affect my life as a whole. He has also been impossible for me to forget and let go of... Does this all sound familiar?Still_HopefulThank you guys for reply.It is not a personal reading. I am just curious about these aspects.It seems it should be significant.All of my serious relationships had IC/MC conjunction with personal planets. But I have never encountered NN/SC conjunct MC/IC.I read a post some time ago about MC and its significance in Synastry. The poster made very good argument that MC does not necessarily involve carrier or public image but rather what person ants from life. So basically NN and MC somewhat represent the similar thrives in life.MC: what you want to be in life or what you want FROM lifeNN: what you need to accomplish in life.MC: is desire to be what you want to beNN: is a need or karmic lesson what you MUST accomplish in this lifeWhen these 2 overlay it seems to be significant, don't you think?What I mean is if NN person does not live up or ignores NN calling he could easily affect MC person in a bad way. If NN person does listen NN calling it can help tremendously MC person.However, How MC person can affect NN person?It seems everything is one sided. at least for now.EDIT: Also I think, MC represent consciousness and NN is unconsciousnessFaithI'm really confused here, my NN is close to my IC, and so is my husband's NN.I wonder if I'd make more money if I just refused to evolve? South node near MC.Seriously, though...Looking at this topic with interest, thank you Still_HopefulFaith you are not the only one I was talking about from synastry point of view, not natalI am confused as well... I an trying to understand the concept of NN/SN on MC/IC.In your case, SN conjunct MC, right?SN is familiarity may be even connection from a past life. SN is what you already know and comes as a second nature?So In your case I think, SN person will help you MC person in what you want from life (it could include carrier but not limited to it).However, his NN conjunct ur IC, so if the person does not evolve it can potentially hurt you? I am not sure, please help me Also, I read somewhere that MC is a father and IC is a mother. Could be related to children issues?Or simple acceptance of fatherly ot motherly roles?Disclaimer, I am not sure if my attempt to some kinda analysis is right, I am just musing SaggiMC quote:Originally posted by Faith:I'm really confused here, my NN is close to my IC, and so is my husband's NN.I wonder if I'd make more money if I just refused to evolve? South node near MC.Seriously, though...Looking at this topic with interest, thank you North Node is ALL about LIFE LESSON'S that doesn't necesarily mean it's connected to work,career OR relationships.Now with NNode conj IC, suggests you lessons are to come away from public image and build something solid and focus on family matters, members...North Node http://www.lunarliving.org/astrology/transiting_lunar_nodes.shtml http://www.astrologyweekly.com/astrology-articles/north-node-karma.php http://moonvalleyastrologer.com/moon_nodes.htm http://northnodeastrology.blogspot.com/search/label/North%20Node%20and%20the%20Quest%20for%20the%20Authentic%20Self http://www.north-node.com/astrology-tutorials/nodes http://astrologyforthesoul.com/monnodzpolari.html ------------------I love the parable, “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.”Still_Hopefulmostly I am interested how these aspects played out in synastry.featherlightlyI have this as a double whammy with someone -- my north node conjunct his MC and his north node conjunct my MC. Our composite chart, as a result, also has north node conjunct MC exact.We are colleagues and originally met through our work. He has been instrumental in my career going forward, and I think I've helped his evolve as well. Together we make an incredible, like-minded work duo, and whenever we collaborate on projects it results in something fantastic.On top of this, I've had strong feelings (romantic) for him ever since we met. So has he. We only recently admitted it to each other. Our relationship, whether in the workplace or at the friendship level, is characterized by deep comfort and familiarity with each other -- we're best friends and can tell each other anything, and seem to have a very intuitive understanding of each other that transcends words. From the very first time we talked, I felt like he was an old friend. He says he feels the same. I think this is the work of south node conjunct IC for both of us. We have both been part of each other's inner worlds before.SaggiMC quote:Originally posted by featherlightly:I have this as a double whammy with someone -- my north node conjunct his MC and his north node conjunct my MC. Our composite chart, as a result, also has north node conjunct MC exact.We are colleagues and originally met through our work. He has been instrumental in my career going forward, and I think I've helped his evolve as well. Together we make an incredible, like-minded work duo, and whenever we collaborate on projects it results in something fantastic.On top of this, I've had strong feelings (romantic) for him ever since we met. So has he. We only recently admitted it to each other. Our relationship, whether in the workplace or at the friendship level, is characterized by deep comfort and familiarity with each other -- we're best friends and can tell each other anything, and seem to have a very intuitive understanding of each other that transcends words. From the very first time we talked, I felt like he was an old friend. He says he feels the same. I think this is the work of south node conjunct IC for both of us. We have both been part of each other's inner worlds before.that was a wonderful articulate response for OP (original poster)Angles, Nodes, moon, sun are all taken into account....SaggiMC quote:Originally posted by Still_Hopeful:mostly I am interested how these aspects played out in synastry.can you post a chart?Basic astrology forum, How to approach Synastry http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000667.html To enter this forum you need an extra password – (astrology)Please remember to reduce the orb ratio down to 40% (ONLY for synastry bi wheel) as the max orb between planets is 3'. Composite should be 85% orbswhen you get this SYNASTRY chart, please also post the *pdf file*, above left of chart look for *view additional tables (PDF)* This will bring up 2pages. Scroll down to last page for the *aspect grid* THIS is very important as it seems to show more aspects than is visible on the bi wheel…problem is uploading to photobucket (or imageshack) you have to change this from Aabode format into a picture/jpeg format. This is done by getting the relevant page/grid in front of you on screen then, the press ‘prtsc sysrq’ - top row inbetween pause break and F12. This has been copied to clipboard. Paste into Paint or some other photo software. Crop the picture and save to hard drive, then upload to photobucket, select chart, press IMG and past link into thread.... all done Lastly, by making the effort to post the correct charts AND aspect grid will ensure that you are serious in your enquiry and will guarantee (from me at least) a serious response……if you are simply here to get a freebie or are just curious but can’t be bothered to make the effort to post the correct charts then I won’t bother making an effort to delineate them. In this case I will simply refer to a website that offers Free interactive models (like astro.com, astrology3d.com and grupovenus.com) for your amusement…This forum (as all forums) are unpaid, free help and advice from lots of professionals (like myself) and enthusiastic amateurs, who do this for the ‘love of astrology’ and genuinely want members to learn about themselves and partners through this ‘science and art’ we call astrology……OR try this convert image from Abode format to Jpeg to upload to photobucket, using this free software conversion site.. http://www.pdf-to-jpg.org/ ------------------I love the parable, “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.”magnet_lotus" However, his NN conjunct ur IC, so if the person does not evolve it can potentially hurt you?"Bingo. I share this aspect with a former boss (my MH conj his SN, my IC his NN). He's struggling with the unconventionality of the deep and sincere friendship and unconditional love I am offering him. If he doesn't get past his need to be 'normal' and embrace it I will definitely be hurt. Doesn't help that my NN and descendant both conjunct his Saturn... He's been a right stick in the mud with me!bopbopAnyone have any current thoughts on this aspect?I have it with a boss, as the above poster did; in Leo. There is nothing romantic between us. He makes several contacts to my IC/MC and AC/DC, so it's hard to parse this out.I would think, his ultimate purpose of creative self-actualization (Leo) is a deeply felt need for me. Collaborative, unconventional habits of his (SN in Aqua) can thrust me into a direction that advances my public appearance and career (MC). He he does not particularly like the role of an authoritarian. This seems to be the manifestation. He gives me much more freedom than other employees have, but this is because I'm not afraid to demand the freedom I want (Aqua) and this actually delights him. So far, it has been positive for both of us as I bring in business for him and he gives me the resources to make it work.There is a hint of a karmic bond here, but an impersonal (Leo/Aqua, again) one. He showed up in my life when I needed the job, and it happened to be the job I wanted five years before he approached me out of the blue. It was a strange serendipity we both muse over.Sylven quote:Originally posted by Still_Hopeful:[B]Faith you are not the only one I was talking about from synastry point of view, not natalShe was. Her husband nn conjunct her ic.I have the nn conjunct mc with my husband and it's exact in Pisces! I am still figuring it out but I know it has felt familiar from the start (also as in family), related, karmic etc.. We influence each others life's obviously. So naturally each others careers. I guess it works together with the rest of our synastry. RandallMoving to Interpersonal Astrology. LionFishBump!Id be really interested in knowing this! Specifically the conjunctions of NN/MC SN/IC.Does anyone have experience with this?Aunt AnomaliaI have NN conjunct MC and NN conjunct IC with my friend. It's probably one of the things that bind us.------------------The first psychic femdroid on the market.LionFish quote:Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:I have NN conjunct MC and NN conjunct IC with my friend. It's probably one of the things that bind us.Ooo a double DW!My NN is conjunct my new boss's MC and his Sun conjunct my SN.I wonder if it would have a similar effect? Aunt AnomaliaNN-MC seems perfect for this type of connection. I wouldn't be surprised if you worked with him for a long time or reached some milestone thanks to him. Sun + SN should be comfortable first and foremost. How it would manifest depends also on how the Node person deals with this axis. SN can be like a comfort zone and some people don't like to leave it. If you're one of them, you'll probably want him to be around as long as possible.------------------The first psychic femdroid on the market.
Can you comment on that?Example: NN of person A conjunct MC Of person Band SN conjunct IC.I know the degree should be pretty close in my case it is 1 degree.
Basic astrology forum, How to approach Synastry http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000667.html To enter this forum you need an extra password – astrology….
Please remember to reduce the orb ratio down to 40% (ONLY for syn bi wheel) as the max orb between planets is 3'. To enter this forum you need an extra password – astrology….Composite should be 85% orbs
when you get this chart, please also post the *pdf file*, above left of chart look for *view additional tables (PDF)* This will bring up 2pages –at a glance planet to planet. Scroll down to last page and *aspect grid* (ONLY for syn bi wheel) THIS is very important as it seems to show more aspects than is visible on the bi wheel…
problem is uploading to photobucket you have to change this from abode format into a picture. This is done by getting the relevant page/grid/bit in front of you,on screen then( if bit big press ctrl and - to reduce image). the press ‘prtsc sysrq’ - top row inbetween pause break and F12. This has copied to clipboard.
Paste into Paint or some other photo software. Crop the picture and save to hard drive, then upload to photobucket, select chart press IMG and past link into thread.... done
------------------I love the parable, “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.”
Does this all sound familiar?
When these 2 overlay it seems to be significant, don't you think?What I mean is if NN person does not live up or ignores NN calling he could easily affect MC person in a bad way. If NN person does listen NN calling it can help tremendously MC person.However, How MC person can affect NN person?It seems everything is one sided. at least for now.
EDIT: Also I think, MC represent consciousness and NN is unconsciousness
I wonder if I'd make more money if I just refused to evolve? South node near MC.
Seriously, though...
Looking at this topic with interest, thank you
Also, I read somewhere that MC is a father and IC is a mother. Could be related to children issues?Or simple acceptance of fatherly ot motherly roles?
Disclaimer, I am not sure if my attempt to some kinda analysis is right, I am just musing
quote:Originally posted by Faith:I'm really confused here, my NN is close to my IC, and so is my husband's NN.I wonder if I'd make more money if I just refused to evolve? South node near MC.Seriously, though...Looking at this topic with interest, thank you
North Node is ALL about LIFE LESSON'S that doesn't necesarily mean it's connected to work,career OR relationships.
Now with NNode conj IC, suggests you lessons are to come away from public image and build something solid and focus on family matters, members...
North Node http://www.lunarliving.org/astrology/transiting_lunar_nodes.shtml http://www.astrologyweekly.com/astrology-articles/north-node-karma.php http://moonvalleyastrologer.com/moon_nodes.htm http://northnodeastrology.blogspot.com/search/label/North%20Node%20and%20the%20Quest%20for%20the%20Authentic%20Self http://www.north-node.com/astrology-tutorials/nodes http://astrologyforthesoul.com/monnodzpolari.html
We are colleagues and originally met through our work. He has been instrumental in my career going forward, and I think I've helped his evolve as well. Together we make an incredible, like-minded work duo, and whenever we collaborate on projects it results in something fantastic.
On top of this, I've had strong feelings (romantic) for him ever since we met. So has he. We only recently admitted it to each other. Our relationship, whether in the workplace or at the friendship level, is characterized by deep comfort and familiarity with each other -- we're best friends and can tell each other anything, and seem to have a very intuitive understanding of each other that transcends words. From the very first time we talked, I felt like he was an old friend. He says he feels the same. I think this is the work of south node conjunct IC for both of us. We have both been part of each other's inner worlds before.
quote:Originally posted by featherlightly:I have this as a double whammy with someone -- my north node conjunct his MC and his north node conjunct my MC. Our composite chart, as a result, also has north node conjunct MC exact.We are colleagues and originally met through our work. He has been instrumental in my career going forward, and I think I've helped his evolve as well. Together we make an incredible, like-minded work duo, and whenever we collaborate on projects it results in something fantastic.On top of this, I've had strong feelings (romantic) for him ever since we met. So has he. We only recently admitted it to each other. Our relationship, whether in the workplace or at the friendship level, is characterized by deep comfort and familiarity with each other -- we're best friends and can tell each other anything, and seem to have a very intuitive understanding of each other that transcends words. From the very first time we talked, I felt like he was an old friend. He says he feels the same. I think this is the work of south node conjunct IC for both of us. We have both been part of each other's inner worlds before.
that was a wonderful articulate response for OP (original poster)Angles, Nodes, moon, sun are all taken into account....
quote:Originally posted by Still_Hopeful:mostly I am interested how these aspects played out in synastry.
can you post a chart?
Basic astrology forum, How to approach Synastry http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000667.html To enter this forum you need an extra password – (astrology)
Please remember to reduce the orb ratio down to 40% (ONLY for synastry bi wheel) as the max orb between planets is 3'. Composite should be 85% orbs
when you get this SYNASTRY chart, please also post the *pdf file*, above left of chart look for *view additional tables (PDF)* This will bring up 2pages. Scroll down to last page for the *aspect grid* THIS is very important as it seems to show more aspects than is visible on the bi wheel…
problem is uploading to photobucket (or imageshack) you have to change this from Aabode format into a picture/jpeg format. This is done by getting the relevant page/grid in front of you on screen then, the press ‘prtsc sysrq’ - top row inbetween pause break and F12. This has been copied to clipboard.
Paste into Paint or some other photo software. Crop the picture and save to hard drive, then upload to photobucket, select chart, press IMG and past link into thread.... all done
Lastly, by making the effort to post the correct charts AND aspect grid will ensure that you are serious in your enquiry and will guarantee (from me at least) a serious response……if you are simply here to get a freebie or are just curious but can’t be bothered to make the effort to post the correct charts then I won’t bother making an effort to delineate them. In this case I will simply refer to a website that offers Free interactive models (like astro.com, astrology3d.com and grupovenus.com) for your amusement…
This forum (as all forums) are unpaid, free help and advice from lots of professionals (like myself) and enthusiastic amateurs, who do this for the ‘love of astrology’ and genuinely want members to learn about themselves and partners through this ‘science and art’ we call astrology……
OR try this convert image from Abode format to Jpeg to upload to photobucket, using this free software conversion site.. http://www.pdf-to-jpg.org/
Bingo. I share this aspect with a former boss (my MH conj his SN, my IC his NN). He's struggling with the unconventionality of the deep and sincere friendship and unconditional love I am offering him. If he doesn't get past his need to be 'normal' and embrace it I will definitely be hurt. Doesn't help that my NN and descendant both conjunct his Saturn... He's been a right stick in the mud with me!
I have it with a boss, as the above poster did; in Leo. There is nothing romantic between us. He makes several contacts to my IC/MC and AC/DC, so it's hard to parse this out.
I would think, his ultimate purpose of creative self-actualization (Leo) is a deeply felt need for me. Collaborative, unconventional habits of his (SN in Aqua) can thrust me into a direction that advances my public appearance and career (MC). He he does not particularly like the role of an authoritarian.
This seems to be the manifestation. He gives me much more freedom than other employees have, but this is because I'm not afraid to demand the freedom I want (Aqua) and this actually delights him. So far, it has been positive for both of us as I bring in business for him and he gives me the resources to make it work.
There is a hint of a karmic bond here, but an impersonal (Leo/Aqua, again) one. He showed up in my life when I needed the job, and it happened to be the job I wanted five years before he approached me out of the blue. It was a strange serendipity we both muse over.
quote:Originally posted by Still_Hopeful:[B]Faith you are not the only one I was talking about from synastry point of view, not natal
She was. Her husband nn conjunct her ic.
I have the nn conjunct mc with my husband and it's exact in Pisces! I am still figuring it out but I know it has felt familiar from the start (also as in family), related, karmic etc.. We influence each others life's obviously. So naturally each others careers. I guess it works together with the rest of our synastry.
Id be really interested in knowing this!
Specifically the conjunctions of NN/MC SN/IC.
Does anyone have experience with this?
------------------The first psychic femdroid on the market.
quote:Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:I have NN conjunct MC and NN conjunct IC with my friend. It's probably one of the things that bind us.
Ooo a double DW!
My NN is conjunct my new boss's MC and his Sun conjunct my SN.
I wonder if it would have a similar effect?
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