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Aunt Anomalia | The aspect in question is an exact trine. Could it contribute to a mutual acceptance of the less socially acceptable side of another person? What if they form a grand trine with Vertex and cLilith falls on the Antivertex of the Vertex person? This is an open thread, feel free to share your experience with this synastrical connection. ------------------ The first psychic femdroid on the market. |
mir | I first want to know more about the interpretation of Vertex and Lilith so we can think a bit for ourselves. I still have no clue what to make of our DW (h21 -) Lilith/Moon trine. I would like to see Todd's interesting take on this so I'm going to collect some of his lilith/vertex words..
quote: so the vertex is not just a mathematical, philosophical point , but an active field of energy. the vertex seems to give the moon's nodes their power as the nodes are defined at the vertex intersection with the moon's orbit. and lilth also gets it power from the vertex as the lilth axis is on the plane of the moon and suns orbit and hence the vertex/ecliptic.this is why I place great emphasis on aspects to lilth. my take on the vertex is that it is the plane or energy/conscious that sustains the earth and all forms of consciousness on the earth.but the vertex is undifferentiated primal energy so moon's nodes give limits and definition to this cosmic energy for applications to the soul of man/animals/flora and minerals.astrologically my take is that the vertex is the energy of the astral and vital planes my belief is that life and consciousness are on the earth because of the energy of the vertex, keeping in mind that the earth is the only planet in the solar system that is coplanar with the vertex/ecliptic. the vertex energy is always running though us, unlike the other planets when the vertex energy is only running through them when they are at 0 latitude.i don't think consciousness can evolve on the other planets with maybe the exception of Uranus because ,I believe Uranus is always within 1 degree of the vertex/ecliptic. todd
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quote: my experience with the vertex is that it gives energy to planets it aspects to . but because the vertex is primal, often the energy of the vertex is difficult to integrate into the chart. for instance Venus square to the vertex will give the native a emanating field of love. but whether this love turns into romance is not certain. the vertex energy is part of you but sometimes one cannot understand where the energy comes from . it is like the sun, a vital force but one which you may not be able to consciously manipulate easily. todd
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yungang_grotto | That's great stuff. Sorry i got nothing Auntie.. Except i think your assessment astute, the trine is a flow and ease of acceptance there. If the people involved have "healthy" lilith expression then it's "good"-- if they're psychopaths they'll help each other feel ok about that.
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Aunt Anomalia | Thanks, girls. Other aspects are: Jupiter conjunct Lilith, Lilith square Nodes. 2 psychos in heaven? There are more connections that make me think we could accept each other's darkness and even go dance in it sometimes. I wish I could count that square to Venus but it's almost 4 deg wide. quote: I still have no clue what to make of our DW (h21 -) Lilith/Moon trine.
Is/was it easy for you to bring out some dark emotions and insticts in each other? Did you bond over being misfits?------------------ The first psychic femdroid on the market. |
mir | ^ there was indeed equality in bringing out the dark side in each other but the misfit is totally spot on! I'm speechless.. |
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yungang_grotto | quote: Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia: Thanks, girls. Other aspects are: Jupiter conjunct Lilith, Lilith square Nodes. 2 psychos in heaven? There are more connections that make me think we could accept each other's darkness and even go dance in it sometimes.I wish I could count that square to Venus but it's almost 4 deg wide.
Haha you wish you could count it! You are twisted! I think you can go ahead and count that if it would in any way enhance your experience of this (inter)personal heaven. Especially as it is clearly a theme! Sounds like fun yeah... hopefully some aspects offering compassion? I feel like Chiron would be an important piece of the puzzle in terms of accepting the darkness and celebrating--i could be wrong. Maybe Lilith and Chiron exist in alternate dimensions/realities...
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mir | Another striking proof of our outcast bonding; His priapus (h22): 26'54 Sag His Uranus: 26'33 Sag
(^ my lilith/priapus midpoint: 26'49 Sag) My lilith (h21): 9'30 Libra My Uranus: 10'15 Libra
(^ his lilith/priapus midp. 7'43 Libra) Don't forget that lilith (h21) and priapus (h22) are one part of the same lunar coin.
Only in German unfortunately;
Lilith/Uranus; verstärktes autonomes Freiheits- und Außenseiterthema (wenn mit Sonne-Mond-AC verbunden teils wahnsinnsnah), unberechenbare, dadurch teilsnoch heftigere lilithhafte Racheausbrüche, außenseiterhafte Hexengruppen oder Astrologenzirkel, Befreiung hin zum eigenen unkonventionellen kosmischen Kanal. Uranus-Priapus: intensiviertes gemeinsames Freiheitserleben, sexuelle Befreiung in Gruppen, Progressive Vorreiter für sexuelle Befreiung, sehnsüchtiger Wunsch nach Freiheit von Familie bzw. Befreiung der Familie.
^ gruppen?? Such a BIG pity this all in German; http://www.werner-held.de/pdf/lilith.pdf |
Aunt Anomalia | This is awesome stuff, mir. Maybe I should check my midpoints too. And yes, I always remember that Priapus is her unfortunate counterpart. quote: hopefully some aspects offering compassion?
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yungang_grotto | quote: Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia: This is awesome stuff, mir. Maybe I should check my midpoints too. And yes, I always remember that Priapus is her unfortunate counterpart.
Lol. Can't quite forget eh... yeah. quote: hopefully some aspects offering compassion? Well, there are a couple of Neptune aspects.[/b]
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mir | Thanks for limiting my exposure to the public guys.
quote: Such a BIG pity this all in German; http://www.werner-held.de/pdf/lilith.pdf
Easy to translate here; https://translate.google.nl/?hl=nl
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Aunt Anomalia | quote: Thanks for limiting my exposure to the public guys.
What do you mean?Is he really as naughty as that description says? Btw, "site not found". ------------------ The first psychic femdroid on the market. |
yungang_grotto | I like Priapus Is that kind of like saying i like... big bananas? |
firemoon | Cappy Cap, not sure if you even remember me or care at all but personally I thought certain ppl on this forum made it the magical place it was and you were one of them Hope you've been well? Anyway I'd love to comment on this specific topic but honestly I've realized astrology really is kind of like a language, if you don't use it you lose it.. But regardless of whether you ignore or acknowledge my post I still love and respect you as the amazing astrologer you are tho, just sayin |
Aunt Anomalia | Hi, firemoon. I remember you. To be honest, I'm surprised by your post (not that I don't know what you did in LC2 ) and I don't understand why you like me so much or what's so amazing about my astro improvisation but thank you for your kind words. Btw, I also remember that I was rude to you once and I'm sorry for that. Alright, no more mush. Will you become more active on LL? Maybe it's time to stretch your astro tongue I'm pretty sure you'd make up for your absence. quote: I like Priapus
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Ceridwen | I wished they had found another name. |
Aunt Anomalia | They have my permission to replace it with mine. It even starts with P. The problem is I'm team Lilith. ------------------ The first psychic femdroid on the market. |
mir | Lilith is too erratic to handle. You may even take it literally during the plane crash of Kennedy JR as his EVC had an exact to-the-second Sun/Lilith conjunction (opp priapus tightly). Did you see how that plane (he piloted) went through the air before it crashed?? E r r a t i c Just mean to say there's way more into this pairing than we might know now. EVC = Event Composite (the better version of transits) |
Ceridwen | there`s more to it, agreed. Yet, not always too erratic to handle. Depends. My Dad has Moon exact conjunct Lilith, both of them opposing my Mum`s Sun and squaring his own Sun. They handled it very well so far. Of course they are both highly Uranian (my Dad being an Aqua, my MOm with Uranus-conjunct-Lilith on the ASC).But yes, the Lilith/Priapus- axis is quite a "force". |
Ceridwen | And EVC`s are awesome |
Ceridwen | BTW it frustrates me to no end - cause I had such formidable results with mean Lilith lately - but astronomically-astrologically only the h21 and h22 natural placements are the right calculation. I counterchecked it with the actual moments of perigree and apogee. And ONLY Priapus and Lilith as mentioned here in this thread fulfil the definition - at apogee Lilith should be conjunct the Moon and at perigee Priapus should be conjunct the Moon. In the case of h21 and h22 they are, without orb, or with 0°00 orb. And ONLY these objects neither mean Lilith nor true Lilith matches that unless they also match h21 exact. |
Aunt Anomalia | My condolences, Ceri. My true Lilith is conjunct my IC widishly and I kinda like this aspect but I'm fine with sticking to h21 that is nearby. She's still trine Jupiter (I think? I hope 1.40 is enough), square ASC and conjunct Union. Hm, I just noticed I also have an exact quincunx to Pholus. quote: Lilith is too erratic to handle.
I can't be that hard to handle if you're still talking to me
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