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ChildofVenus | Is there anything positive about having this aspect in synastry? I have it with my mother. |
erickaf | Loyalty. |
Desiring Shadows | Emotional strength |
Aries23Degrees | Being unable to express oneself emotionally (for Moon). It creates a formal business-like relationship that is not clouded by too many emotional mood swings. There could be some emotional exchanges... True. But they are few and far between. The good news is that it's supposed to be secure or create a stable bond of support in the long run? I have the opposition with my Mom and what I can say is that it creates trust. But nothing too sentimental.
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ChildofVenus | I don't like this aspect I feel like it's mostly negative. |
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Randall | No aspects are entirely negative. |
Randall | Bump! |
HappyLoewe | Yes, there are positives. It can be considered a good marital aspect because it helps create an enduring bond where people will stick it out through the good and the bad because it allows for growth. You get emotional commitment. The "negatives" mean it can sometimes result in a feeling of not always feeling comfortable expressing what you feel or fearing criticism. So it brings challenges in saying what needs to be said before it all blows up. You can see the enduring aspect of it - ups/downs/roundabouts before hitting the refresh button and it settles down again. I've read that this aspect often shows up in LT relationships, LT friendships and marriages. |
manderin | Arguably the worst aspect in synastry. One of the few aspects that on it's own potentially has the power to throw an otherwise great synastry completely in the trash. I disagree with most of the good stuff people are mentioning here. If I had to come up with something good about it, it's that it can create a certain sense of responsibility between two people... but the extent of that depends on each person's relationship with saturn in their own natal charts. And anyway- having any sense of responsibility or attachment towards someone that devalues your feelings and emotionally abuses you isn't usually a good thing anyway- so even the good stuff is bad with this aspect in most cases. |
DreamCatcher | quote: Originally posted by manderin: Arguably the worst aspect in synastry. One of the few aspects that on it's own potentially has the power to throw an otherwise great synastry completely in the trash.I disagree with most of the good stuff people are mentioning here. If I had to come up with something good about it, it's that it can create a certain sense of responsibility between two people... but the extent of that depends on each person's relationship with saturn in their own natal charts. And anyway- having any sense of responsibility or attachment towards someone that devalues your feelings and emotionally abuses you isn't usually a good thing anyway- so even the good stuff is bad with this aspect in most cases.
Dare I ask about Moon Sq Saturn COMPOSITE? Is that awful? |
ChildofVenus | quote: Originally posted by manderin: Arguably the worst aspect in synastry. One of the few aspects that on it's own potentially has the power to throw an otherwise great synastry completely in the trash.I disagree with most of the good stuff people are mentioning here. If I had to come up with something good about it, it's that it can create a certain sense of responsibility between two people... but the extent of that depends on each person's relationship with saturn in their own natal charts. And anyway- having any sense of responsibility or attachment towards someone that devalues your feelings and emotionally abuses you isn't usually a good thing anyway- so even the good stuff is bad with this aspect in most cases.
So with Moon square Saturn in synastry the Saturn person abuses the Moon persons feelings? Sometimes I think my mother makes me feel this way. |
Starry~* | I would like to ask for others' input about moon sq saturn in composite. I have it w/ my BF in composite, we are anything but lack of affection. In fact, quite the opposite, we are both emotionally invested - him even more so. But other inputs would be appreciated too about this aspect! |
Solar_Leo_Queen | I personally have this with my bf. I don’t know about everyone else, but I think this aspect is manageabls depending on the individual charts. My Moon is pretty beat up in our synastry. My Moon oppose his Moon-Jupiter conjunction in Cap, and square his Saturn in Aries. No flowing aspects at all. My Mercury-Venus conjunction both trine his Moon though. Gotta admit, I was very scared to tell him how I felt about certain in the beginning of the relationship. I felt I would be judged or that I will be patronized or parented. But I grew out of it. I realize he does listen to me, just not in the way I would like. There’s none of that natural understanding a Moon in Cancer looks for. Moon in Cap plus Saturn on my Moon makes for a partner who wants to find solutions to everything instead of just listening and understanding. This appeals very much to my Virgo placements but not so much to my Moon. I have learned to deal with it and accept that I can’t be passive-aggressive about my feelings with him. I literally have to verbalize what’s internal, otherwise he would not have a clue as to how I am feeling. Even now, I will have the tendency to try and keep things from him, but I catch myself before any damage. Sometimes, I even find out it’s just me trippin’ balls. I’d lowkey tell him about how I feel, he calls me out on it, and then I find out there was really nothing to be scared of in the first place. I think this is a great aspect, although a little challenging. It can bind the Moon person because of the fear of disappointing the Saturn person. Great loyalty can be achieved once the two people learn to work with this aspect. I might be biased still though, because his Moon is in my 7th house and mine is in his 1st. This could literally overthrow whatever harsh aspect there is between our moons. Also, I think I can handle this energy better because I only have one water planet in my chart. I’m more levelheaded and logical most of the time—not very prone to getting offended easily. |
outofideas | Solar Leo Queen, with the Moon opposition Jupiter you have, does he make you laugh lots? |
Hikaru29 | I've Saturn-Moon DW with my current guy. My Saturn square his Moon and his Saturn trine my Moon. Once we got past the initial 'getting-to-know-each-other' stage, I share my feelings with him quite openly and am not afraid that he will judge me or dislike me. I do feel secure. On the other hand, I feel that he holds back certain emotions although I've never been critical nor verbally abusive. It's like he's afraid to expose his feelings for fear of being vulnerable. Despite my encouragement he won't share certain feelings even though I know from the look on his face he wants to say something. I don't know if this is a man's thing or a 'Saturn square Moon' thing. So what I often get is a "constipated" look, LOL. |
Plut0nian2 | In my list this is one of the 3 worst synastry aspects enough to destroy a relationship by itself. If there are other aspects to the Moon those will show first. Saturn will reveal himself in the end. Slow and steadily. I've been once the Saturn person opposite someone's Moon. I couldn't take him seriously emotionally, he felt a bit superficial, unstable and a bit silly. Like there was no depth.. He on the other hand felt like I was indifferent to him (which wasn't true in the beginning) he felt like I was cold for no reason actually. Imo he felt like a child trying to prove he is grown up to his parent lol. I find it quite bad because we are talking about the Moon.. Saturn on Moon and Mars is too bad unless there are other strong positive aspects |
Hikaru29 | quote: Originally posted by Plut0nian2: I couldn't take him seriously emotionally, he felt a bit superficial, unstable and a bit silly.[/B]
You took the words right out of my mouth. As Saturn, I also feel that I can't take him seriously at times because he's always saying different things at different times so I don't know which to believe or when he's being serious. So what I sometimes need to do is to set a serious tone with him to understand his real emotions. However, I don't think this aspect itself is a dealbreaker. I know a few long-term couples (incl. my parents) with Moon-Saturn hard aspect. Learning to deal with this can build resilience and you probably need other harmonious aspects to the Moon to balance this too.
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kani | quote: Originally posted by ChildofVenus: Is there anything positive about having this aspect in synastry? I have it with my mother.
My sister and her husband have it and they have a very good and respectful relationship. Maybe the respectful part comes from that aspect? Both can express themselves quite well, too |